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[quote name="hjhawks" post="1171208" timestamp="1328285629"] [quote author=GCMPats link=topic=95319.msg1170422#msg1170422 date=1328203388] [quote author=joebob link=topic=95319.msg1170409#msg1170409 date=1328202907] How about the two baytown schools losing BH , Dayton and Crosby to travel to galveston, pearland, friendswood, texas city and santa fe.  Talk about some late night travels!  All three baytown schools are getting hosed. Sterling was about 200 kids shy of moving to 4a while lee had room for 500-600 more kids while staying 4a. Doesnt make sense. [/quote] REL was the southern most school in the current 19-4A alignment. The UIL looked to replace Manvel and there was REL as the "best" fit geographicaly. GCM must go where REL goes. In two years the only thing that would change that is if GCM has 5A numbers (or possibly RSS has 4A numbers. Not happening). [b][u]The UIL has said you cannot have 3 classifications in a school district[/u][/b]. SO, even if REL drops to 3A numbers, GCM must have some growth or RSS must drop in enrollment. If not, REL will have to play 4A with 3A numbers. [/quote] Doesn't HISD have 5A, 4A and now 3A schools? [/quote]Yes, reality will soon hit some of you 3-A basketball.

[quote name="speechless" post="1171212" timestamp="1328286134"] [quote]But the problem with taking that many from 1A is a great number of 1A's do not play football. You deplete their numbers and you will have many more schools having to travel much more for district ball games. Also, 150 in the top two classifications will make for more travel.[/quote] I understand but, you are still left with 330 1A schools that play basketball.  I don't know how many of those play football but, I am guessing you could still work things out football wise out of 330 schools. Travel is already an issue at 5A and will always be an issue in region 1. My point is....a school of 450 competing against a school of 1004 is a heck of a lot different than a school of 2500 competing against a school of 5000. Kind of like the difference between a 35 year old dating a 25 year old and a 25 year old dating a 15 year old.  The age difference is numerically the same but, that is where the similarities end. They could keep the 300 schools 5A for all I care. [/quote]Actually, way back in our ancestor days, a 25 year old marrying a 15 year old was no big deal. They worked it out just fine ;)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1171156" timestamp="1328281208"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95072.msg1171149#msg1171149 date=1328281028] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95072.msg1171145#msg1171145 date=1328280900] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95072.msg1171135#msg1171135 date=1328280270] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=95072.msg1171113#msg1171113 date=1328278231] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95072.msg1170949#msg1170949 date=1328228171] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=95072.msg1170941#msg1170941 date=1328227522] that sucks, but so does a small school meeting up with an inner city school in the playoffs that has 500 more kids enrolled and that is able to pull kids in from all over a huge city. [/quote]You find a more feasible solution and we'll pitch it to UIL.  In the meantime, I'll watch teams like Kountze compete with 1/2 of the local 4A teams in the area and laugh at you. You see, its the quality of the basketball pool that is so much more important than the size of the basketball pool.  Take HJ and Silsbee.  Together, they've beaten probably every 4A and 5A team in the area this year alone. [/quote] laugh away... if kountze was 3A, they'd be about the 30th best team in the state. and there are many 3A schools that are closer in size to Kountze than they are to the 3A schools at the top of the spectrum.  and this is the reason i brought up huge cities, and schools pulling in kids from all over those cities, but keeping enrollment under 1000.  Which basketball pool has more quality... Hardin Jefferson, or the entire city of Houston, which Yates seems to pick and choose players from? [/quote]Yates= Win and they shall follow you. Players pick Yates,[sub] [size=8pt]with a litttle outside variables included[/size][/sub] [/quote] Tme can change a lot of things.  Wasnt that long ago that a certain Beaumont school was the big kid on the block and that was never going to change. [/quote]There you go again. All of Beaumont hit a dry spell about 2 years ago. [/quote] Which is proof that nothing is permanent INCLUDING the Yates situation. [/quote]I think HJ's dry spell gonna hit /start next year ;)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1171145" timestamp="1328280900"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95072.msg1171135#msg1171135 date=1328280270] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=95072.msg1171113#msg1171113 date=1328278231] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95072.msg1170949#msg1170949 date=1328228171] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=95072.msg1170941#msg1170941 date=1328227522] that sucks, but so does a small school meeting up with an inner city school in the playoffs that has 500 more kids enrolled and that is able to pull kids in from all over a huge city. [/quote]You find a more feasible solution and we'll pitch it to UIL.  In the meantime, I'll watch teams like Kountze compete with 1/2 of the local 4A teams in the area and laugh at you. You see, its the quality of the basketball pool that is so much more important than the size of the basketball pool.  Take HJ and Silsbee.  Together, they've beaten probably every 4A and 5A team in the area this year alone. [/quote] laugh away... if kountze was 3A, they'd be about the 30th best team in the state. and there are many 3A schools that are closer in size to Kountze than they are to the 3A schools at the top of the spectrum.  and this is the reason i brought up huge cities, and schools pulling in kids from all over those cities, but keeping enrollment under 1000.  Which basketball pool has more quality... Hardin Jefferson, or the entire city of Houston, which Yates seems to pick and choose players from? [/quote]Yates= Win and they shall follow you. Players pick Yates,[sub] [size=8pt]with a litttle outside variables included[/size][/sub] [/quote] Tme can change a lot of things.  Wasnt that long ago that a certain Beaumont school was the big kid on the block and that was never going to change. [/quote]There you go again. All of Beaumont hit a dry spell about 2 years ago.

[quote name="bullets13" post="1171113" timestamp="1328278231"] [quote author=FanintheStands link=topic=95072.msg1170949#msg1170949 date=1328228171] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=95072.msg1170941#msg1170941 date=1328227522] that sucks, but so does a small school meeting up with an inner city school in the playoffs that has 500 more kids enrolled and that is able to pull kids in from all over a huge city. [/quote]You find a more feasible solution and we'll pitch it to UIL.  In the meantime, I'll watch teams like Kountze compete with 1/2 of the local 4A teams in the area and laugh at you. You see, its the quality of the basketball pool that is so much more important than the size of the basketball pool.  Take HJ and Silsbee.  Together, they've beaten probably every 4A and 5A team in the area this year alone. [/quote] laugh away... if kountze was 3A, they'd be about the 30th best team in the state. and there are many 3A schools that are closer in size to Kountze than they are to the 3A schools at the top of the spectrum.  and this is the reason i brought up huge cities, and schools pulling in kids from all over those cities, but keeping enrollment under 1000.  Which basketball pool has more quality... Hardin Jefferson, or the entire city of Houston, which Yates seems to pick and choose players from? [/quote]Yates= Win and they shall follow you. Players pick Yates,[sub] [size=8pt]with a litttle outside variables included[/size][/sub]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1171110" timestamp="1328277871"] HJ and Silsbee can beat Furr and Waltrip with their own rosters right now. [/quote]hahahahahhaaha True!

[quote name="ForeverADog" post="1171039" timestamp="1328244236"] Aaron Glenns son is a really good basketball player. I think at Ridge Point wonder if he might transfer. [/quote]LOL!

[quote name="tokenwb" post="1171009" timestamp="1328239837"] What if the top 12 players in SE Tx transferred to one school.  How would they compete with Yates? [/quote]To really answer your question. The top 12 players from S.E.Texas could not compete with Yates, Flower Mound, and I could think of a couple more. Now, those 12 could compete with Furr, Waltrip, probably Jones, and maybe one or two schools in the Ft. Bend County school area.

Look, here is the problem. Until Nederland wins a regional title, they will not be taken seriously.  :D

We should really feel bad. BmtSoulja, its your fault. You convinced me not worth the drive to see a 60 minute game.

I thought Jimmie Briscoe was at Legacy? Is he back at Ozen?

[quote name="stevenash" post="1170673" timestamp="1328211673"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=95292.msg1170662#msg1170662 date=1328211475] Isn't Kountze getting smaller anyway. Might as well combine with Silsbee and have a small 4A program. [/quote] That would save a lot of mileage for some. [/quote]And trees.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1170402" timestamp="1328202528"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95282.msg1170371#msg1170371 date=1328197559] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95282.msg1169912#msg1169912 date=1328136281] [quote author=football link=topic=95282.msg1169860#msg1169860 date=1328128911] If he hits the weights, he will be close to unstoppable. [/quote] If he hits the weights, that will certainly help but I hope he dedicates some of that weight time to jumping rope.  I believe it will help him more [/quote]He should do both. Its not about today, but tomorrow. [/quote] My statement reflected that he do both.  I just believe that agility and quickness may be as important or more important than additional strength. [/quote]Why explain. I'm going to disagree with you anyway :D

[quote name="ST413" post="1170717" timestamp="1328213278"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95318.msg1170639#msg1170639 date=1328210900] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=95318.msg1170631#msg1170631 date=1328210762] Wow! I can't wait until the day one of these little ole 3A teams knocks mighty yates out of the playoffs, especially if its one of out local teams. [/quote]Sorry, you'll be too old to remember what happened when and if that day comes. ;) [/quote] It will happen, just a matter of time. I remember a game last year, that you said my Tigers couldn't win. No they didn't win it but only because the last spot just wouldnt fall.  You said out was lack of focus by GBall, it only takes one night for that to happen and that last shot to happen to fall. [/quote]OMG! Back on that game again, huh? Let me say it in a different way. Ball did not take Silsbee as serious as Silsbee took Ball. And as I predicted, Ball won as expected. They played *down* that game.

Nash, got all his hype men on today.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1170669" timestamp="1328211631"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170655#msg1170655 date=1328211296] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170650#msg1170650 date=1328211180] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170643#msg1170643 date=1328210989] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170637#msg1170637 date=1328210891] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170623#msg1170623 date=1328210447] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170607#msg1170607 date=1328210120] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170601#msg1170601 date=1328210066] You can make all the adjustments you want to, if players don't get it, well.......................... [/quote] Don't get it?  Isn't that where intellect comes into play.  Be assured that Nederland will not take an intellectual back seat to anyone. [/quote]Nothing to do with intellect; as much as the discipline to want to do it the coach's way. [/quote] I simply say that having that discipline comes from the mental capability to understand why it should be that way and to accept it without question [/quote]Why must you try and always want to have the last word? It ain't gonna happen unless I deem it so :D [/quote] OK - Discipline is instinctive and mental acumen plays no part in the game of basketball. [/quote]No, I'm all about the mental side  and discipline is PHYSICAL :P [/quote] And I am implying that, on the mental side, the advantage goes to Mr. English and his players. [/quote] Its just an imply. What about those variables where you just get tired of getting whipped, beat up on, jumped on, beat down, and just pimp-slapped by the same school all the time. Nederland just wave Central around like a its her[s] bith[/s].....errrrr ragdoll

[quote name="PhatMack19" post="1170612" timestamp="1328210193"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95072.msg1170530#msg1170530 date=1328207984] What I meant to ask for was the paramaters for each classification.  As in 1-a is 200-400  etc etc [/quote] 2012-2013 & 2013-2014 5A 2090 & up 4A 1005-2089 3A 450-1004 2A 200-449 1A 199 & below *99.9 & below [/quote]wOW! From 450-1004!

[quote name="stevenash" post="1170650" timestamp="1328211180"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170643#msg1170643 date=1328210989] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170637#msg1170637 date=1328210891] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170623#msg1170623 date=1328210447] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170607#msg1170607 date=1328210120] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170601#msg1170601 date=1328210066] You can make all the adjustments you want to, if players don't get it, well.......................... [/quote] Don't get it?  Isn't that where intellect comes into play.  Be assured that Nederland will not take an intellectual back seat to anyone. [/quote]Nothing to do with intellect; as much as the discipline to want to do it the coach's way. [/quote] I simply say that having that discipline comes from the mental capability to understand why it should be that way and to accept it without question [/quote]Why must you try and always want to have the last word? It ain't gonna happen unless I deem it so :D [/quote] OK - Discipline is instinctive and mental acumen plays no part in the game of basketball. [/quote]No, I'm all about the mental side  and discipline is PHYSICAL :P

[quote name="bballgod" post="1170645" timestamp="1328211066"] The winner of 21-3A will probably play Yates (winner of 23-3A) in the Regional Quarterfinals.  That is if both of them win the 2nd round game. [/quote]let us all pray together for this to happen.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1170614" timestamp="1328210199"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95270.msg1170591#msg1170591 date=1328209810] Been at his live performances ;) [/quote] I will bet you were asked for your autograph many times. [/quote] Actually, I was there early in hopes that they would hand over his check to me before he performed. You know, performers want their money before the show ;)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1170637" timestamp="1328210891"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170623#msg1170623 date=1328210447] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170607#msg1170607 date=1328210120] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170601#msg1170601 date=1328210066] You can make all the adjustments you want to, if players don't get it, well.......................... [/quote] Don't get it?  Isn't that where intellect comes into play.  Be assured that Nederland will not take an intellectual back seat to anyone. [/quote]Nothing to do with intellect; as much as the discipline to want to do it the coach's way. [/quote] I simply say that having that discipline comes from the mental capability to understand why it should be that way and to accept it without question [/quote]Why must you try and always want to have the last word? It ain't gonna happen unless I deem it so :D

[quote name="ST413" post="1170631" timestamp="1328210762"] Wow! I can't wait until the day one of these little ole 3A teams knocks mighty yates out of the playoffs, especially if its one of out local teams. [/quote]Sorry, you'll be too old to remember what happened when and if that day comes. ;)

[quote name="dogs1218" post="1170625" timestamp="1328210572"] I know for a fact Central can beat Nederland. Seem them play quite a few times. Will be a good game. Just dont want people to put all the praise on Coach English, when the players deserve a little love too ;) [/quote]Nederland players are good. I've been saying for the past 3 years Nederland would be good. English destined it to be :D

[quote name="bullets13" post="1170621" timestamp="1328210409"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95318.msg1170613#msg1170613 date=1328210195] [quote author=setxbbfan link=topic=95318.msg1170590#msg1170590 date=1328209780] How will Wise fare coaching against guys like Sutherland and Siglar.  He has his critics. [/quote] ::) ::) [/quote] his team full of recruits will probably be too much for them, but from a coaching standpoint, he's no better than them.  from what i've seen, he's probably worse, as he doesn't know how to play but one style. [/quote]They have too many weapons to defend. They're getting international recruits ;)

[quote name="stevenash" post="1170607" timestamp="1328210120"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95269.msg1170601#msg1170601 date=1328210066] You can make all the adjustments you want to, if players don't get it, well.......................... [/quote] Don't get it?  Isn't that where intellect comes into play.  Be assured that Nederland will not take an intellectual back seat to anyone. [/quote]Nothing to do with intellect; as much as the discipline to want to do it the coach's way.