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[quote name="Bmt Pride" post="1297026" timestamp="1349975970"]
[quote author=youthinkyouknow link=topic=104263.msg1297013#msg1297013 date=1349975095]
Whoa... I was like, where did this putmencoach person come from?  ??? I figured it out. Its cantbeat23 with a different user name.

BTW... where is Ocho?
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He headbutted his wife and is now in anger managment which does not allow forum access...jk

Where did u see this putmencoach at?
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His post are throughout the thread now. He is  definately not a Beaumont Fan and very vocal on this issue, so I thought.. where did this person come from? Go back and look at page 2, last post on the page is by putmencoach.  At the end of his post it says 'Edited by Cantbeat23' which I recognized.

[quote name="Lions#80" post="1295647" timestamp="1349810167"]
[quote author=NDNation link=topic=104378.msg1295107#msg1295107 date=1349742586]
We are gonna kick some butt at halftime...our show is awesome this year!
[/quote]Halftime show

Central  100
PNG  10

;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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What is it with Beaumont Teams and PNG?  ;) Good luck Central! I do hear you have an awesome half-time show.

Ozen... for sure.

[quote name="hvac_setx" post="1296440" timestamp="1349898749"]
[quote author=VP 93...... link=topic=104436.msg1296431#msg1296431 date=1349898235]
[quote author=AllSportsMom link=topic=104436.msg1296418#msg1296418 date=1349896909]
How are they doing the playoffs with two divisions this year? Usually it is top 4 from each for 8 total. I was thinking they could seed all in each division with top seed getting first week bye. Website still shows 2011 on playoff qualifications.
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Big school ,they are taking top 6 with 1 and 2 getting bye. Don't know how they are doing small school.
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Why call them playoffs when almost every team makes it?
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Agree. Four would be more like playoffs.

Whoa... I was like, where did this putmencoach person come from?  ??? I figured it out. Its cantbeat23 with a different user name.

BTW... where is Ocho?

[quote name="forthelove" post="1296614" timestamp="1349912386"]
[quote author=youthinkyouknow link=topic=104263.msg1296404#msg1296404 date=1349896078]
There is so much that I could comment on or give my opinion on but I think pretty much everything has been covered OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I will say, I am a parent who has a child on Beaumont Blue that is not a "Stud" and is just a regular player at best. He is on the Kick Off team and occasionally even gets to kick, but mostly just runs when the main kicker kicks the ball. My child got to play on offense in this game and he came home thinking he was a "Stud". When they took out the "Studs" and put in the Kick Off/Kick Return Team to play Offense, my kid and kids like him (your typical 10 play players) that had never ran the ball or played offense got to play these positions and this was huge for them. They were able to do it because they were prepared and well coached even though they are not the best players. These coaches have instilled skills and fundamentals in all of the players and my son's self esteem has improved so much thanks to them and their coaching. I could not ask for better coaches and am proud my child is on this team.

Other than kneeing every play, I don't know what else the coaches could have done. There was a running clock, they had their basically 3rd string (kick off team/kids that had never ran the ball) playing offense and 2nd defense went in when the score hit 28-0. I don't have anything else to say about that.

My older child has never been on a winning team in the 4 years we've played in this league. I've sat at games where his team is losing 40-0 with 39 seconds on the clock and the other team scores on them again for a 47-0 win. There's no point in that either. Sportsmanship, good and bad, is a matter of perception on each persons part. To me that was bad sportsmanship. I doubt that coach thought so.

This season, there has been nothing but complaining constantly on this forum about Beaumont Blue. Some people are so bitter, I guess jealousy really is a green eyed monster. Grow up adults, your kids handle a loss better than you do.
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But a number score of 75 to 0 is ALL THAT MATTERS in PEEWEE football. Sadly, that's all that is seen by some. I've already voiced my opinion and was told I'm clueless and need to go far away from youth sports lol, But from one parent of a LEARNING PEEWEE player to another.....I'm happy for and proud of ALL those boys!!! My team, your team, OUR BOYS!

How can you ONLY focus on a score when talking about pee wee football? Yes, we have all agreed that 75 to 0 is unheard of! But I'm sorry, if coaches put in 2nd and 3rd string players, with a running clock......what else do you want them to do? Put in those 10 play players and not encourage them to do well? I'm telling you now, if my boy was a 10 play player, and he had an opportunity to run the ball or be on the line or kick a ball, I'd be cheering go ahead on! Sounds like bmt b coaches are coaching ALL of their players at practice, not just their studs. I was not there at the game, but I have not heard any accusations of cheating, not following rules, etc. THE ONLY COMPLAINT IS THE SCORE! How about look a little past the numbers and see that there were many DIFFERENT young boys out there experiencing success. That drives me more than the score of a PEEWEE football game. It's not always about the score at this age people!


And yes, I have put myself in png g's position as a parent, and I have thought about how my son may react to a score of 75 to 0. As a parent, I would say well son, you did this, this and this great...I would point out the good and explain what we could do differently, WHICH IS WHAT I DO AFTER EVERY GAME WHETHER WIN OR LOSE! At this age, they care about.....did we win or did we lose? Some may say well we lost BAD, but in their 7 8 9 yr old mentality, they don't see how horrible that score is like we adults do. I promise you what they will remember and FEEL is what good they did when it is acknowledged! Does that mean anything?
And I can almost guarantee the head coach for png g is acknowledging the good in his boys and pointing it out to them!!! It's not ALL bad people because of a score!!

Obviously there's a strong difference in opinion on this subject, and that is perfectly ok. I would just like to say, as you have heard me say many times.....my team, your team, our boys! Lets be happy for and proud of all of our young pee wee players at whatever playing level they are! Every single one of our players are learning and developing, and that's what should drive us adults!
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So well said.

[quote name="thetragichippy" post="1294638" timestamp="1349709423"]
[quote author=bwl4335 link=topic=104263.msg1294558#msg1294558 date=1349704665]
[quote author=mfd814 link=topic=104263.msg1294487#msg1294487 date=1349699175]
If non starters are running the ball, your min play rule kids are running the ball, it's not a problem.  In the past, when all of the Bmt teams were getting blanked weekly , and they were the doormat, the other teams didn't complain.
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The score of 75-0 is the problem! That has never happened before and should never be allowed to happen! Every team that has played this PNG team has kept it under 40 and most under 30 because they knew it was a weaker team. Now before Beaumont gets on here and says their kids are special again, keep in mind what they are saying is that every kid on their team is 3 times better than all starters on any other team because the score was 3 times higer! It took Beaumont 3 years to build their program and they were a doormat for the first 2 but nobody ever scored 75 points on them. Say rules were not broken? I know I signed a code of ethics form every year I signed my kids up and I bet the STJFL makes the coaches agree to it too. I would bet this is covered in there. No excuses these coaches can come up with are good enough to explain it and they need to be kept away from youth sports!
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This is getting out of hand.  For all the people who are willing to speculate someone must have cheated without either being there and seeing themselves or knowing the rules, here is a little something for you.

I have attached the STJFL Bylaws and their contact list LINKS for your convenience.  Why don't you man up and contact the STJFL and tell them your issues. Read the ByLaws first so you won't look like a complete idiot when you claim they are breaking rules when they may not be....

That will further your cause much better than all these accusations of wrong doing.......I'm really surprised a moderator has not locked this topic

http://www.stjfl.net/docs/STJFL%20CONDUCT.pdf

http://www.stjfl.net/docs/2012%20Contact%20List.pdf
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It was really nice of you to provide these links for the STJFL Code of Conduct and the Bylaws. Too bad your advice wasn't taken when you said to [b]read[/b] them first before claiming Beaumont broke a rule. I read them. There was no rule broken. Yes 75-0 is unheard of but its not against the rules.  I'm sure it will be a NEW rule for next year, just like how we got the 60/40 rule this year thanks to PNG playing an all 8 year old team all the way to the Super Bowl in Pee Wee last year. That's how rules usually get made. Someone calls unfair and a rule fixes it for next time.

:-X  ;)

[quote name="One4All" post="1296427" timestamp="1349897776"]
unbelievable,,,, all the statements made to justify a 75/0 score ......WOW ,
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Wow, issues much? All this just to make Beaumont wrong.

[quote name="SmashMouth" post="1281604" timestamp="1348586853"]
[quote author=Gucci link=topic=102894.msg1279774#msg1279774 date=1348412170]
[quote author=NY27 link=topic=102894.msg1275063#msg1275063 date=1347980798]
I've never posted on here before but i couldn't help myself. Dawgs you are a cry baby!!! and quit bragging about your wonderful little team cuz ned b and lum w will beat you like it aint nothin. Your few studs wont hold up forever! lum w will shut you down just like they did to their 1st 3 opponents. Remember last year?
[/quote]NY27, Lum W lost yesterday will almost guarantee you a playoff game with Bmt B.  You will get your chance to "beat them like it aint nothin"  :D
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No disrespect to Lum W and all the other Pee Wee teams, but that Bmt team is special...go ahead and make the tshirts! 
NY27, it's a good thing you don't post on here much...you may be retarded.
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;D  ;D  ;D  ;D Smashmouth always makes me laugh. I mean that for real, not sarcastic.

There is so much that I could comment on or give my opinion on but I think pretty much everything has been covered OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I will say, I am a parent who has a child on Beaumont Blue that is not a "Stud" and is just a regular player at best. He is on the Kick Off team and occasionally even gets to kick, but mostly just runs when the main kicker kicks the ball. My child got to play on offense in this game and he came home thinking he was a "Stud". When they took out the "Studs" and put in the Kick Off/Kick Return Team to play Offense, my kid and kids like him (your typical 10 play players) that had never ran the ball or played offense got to play these positions and this was huge for them. They were able to do it because they were prepared and well coached even though they are not the best players. These coaches have instilled skills and fundamentals in all of the players and my son's self esteem has improved so much thanks to them and their coaching. I could not ask for better coaches and am proud my child is on this team.

Other than kneeing every play, I don't know what else the coaches could have done. There was a running clock, they had their basically 3rd string (kick off team/kids that had never ran the ball) playing offense and 2nd defense went in when the score hit 28-0. I don't have anything else to say about that.

My older child has never been on a winning team in the 4 years we've played in this league. I've sat at games where his team is losing 40-0 with 39 seconds on the clock and the other team scores on them again for a 47-0 win. There's no point in that either. Sportsmanship, good and bad, is a matter of perception on each persons part. To me that was bad sportsmanship. I doubt that coach thought so.

This season, there has been nothing but complaining constantly on this forum about Beaumont Blue. Some people are so bitter, I guess jealousy really is a green eyed monster. Grow up adults, your kids handle a loss better than you do.

[quote name="Gucci" post="1270290" timestamp="1347646767"]
[quote author=UpandIn link=topic=102894.msg1270266#msg1270266 date=1347645938]
[quote author=dogfather link=topic=102894.msg1270185#msg1270185 date=1347641376]
:oOh  BEAUMONT!  !BEAUMONT! 1,2,3,4,'s  1-3-5-7-14-12-11 1st string 2nd string 11th string !
Your NOT going to be able to do all that when you come through NEDERLAND! 8)HeeHeeHee
Your Boys will get to play the whole Game dont worry!!!!!! ;)
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You got that right buddy  ;)
[/quote] Beaumont will blow the doors off all 3 of your teams. They smoked you last year and will smoke you again this year. You can get the best players from all 3 teams and they will still beat you Nederland.
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You got that right buddy ;)

[quote name="SmashMouth" post="1266777" timestamp="1347301714"]
[quote author=ManCub link=topic=102900.msg1266775#msg1266775 date=1347301392]
I have been involved in youth sports (baseball/football) for 10+ years and never witnessed a coach demoralize a group of 5-6 years as I did this weekend in a Flag Football game. I am not going to identify the team because this is not what this post is about but I witnessed it at the PNG fields this past weekend. Youth sports especially at 5-6 years of age is a time to help kids learn the game and make it fun for them. From the start of the game to the end (even when they were winning) the coach continued to yell and correct his players with no praise what so ever. With STJFL affiliated with USA Football and having to take the courses to be a coach, he sure did not represent STJFL OR USA football in a proper manner. If my son was on the team, I promise there would some words exchanged. Youth sports have really taking a down hill slide the past several years, it seems it more about the winning and the parents. We as coaches and parents really need step back and let these kids have fun and teach them the fundamentals of the game. I promise you the wins will come in due time.
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I think yelling at the kids, whether winning or losing, makes them better players, better people and eventually better parents.  I always yell at my kids.
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LMAO  ;)

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[b]You know, talkin' trash is fun, but backin' it up is even better. [/b] Lucky for you, VID W won't play LUM W in the regular season. Like I said, VID W is a really good team, but they haven't played a top team yet...and yes, I saw them play...a very poor NED G team. The Flag kids could've beaten that Nederland Gold team. I feel like VID W CAN put 32+ on LUM W and PNG G too...they may just get outscored.  The reason I have them below PNG G is because VID W has had no opposition to speak of.  PNG G has played the top team in the division in LUM W. I almost put VID W 2nd, they just haven't had enough competition to merit that.  I look for them to do some good stuff this year, though.
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I don't have a dog in this fight but ... Quote of the Season from Smashmouth...I love it.
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You know, talkin' trash is fun, but backin' it up is even better.[/b]

[quote name="DawgsOfBlue" post="1266683" timestamp="1347293711"]
Beaumont Peewee Blue Do Not have to cheat-

We are tired of coaches and opposing fans/parents trying to humiliate this team. All summer, every weekend and after every game someone has tried to bring them down. Coach Derrick Rivers and staff are getting tired of all this Drama. For now on Do Not ask for a running clock. Teams are throwing the towel in and then after the game they complain about a few (STUDS) playing the entire game or wanting to protest  because they feel like some players aren't getting their 10 plays. FYI, even with a running clock and our Studs, as you call them,  Do Not Play the entire game and ALL our players get their plays.. #1 has 4 carries for 4 touchdowns, #3 has 6 carries for 5 touchdowns and #10 has 8 carries for 6 td's. And thats thru 2 games. We only have 18 offensive plays so far this year. Don't you know that those kids run track and train very hard all summer. They are highly ranked in the Nation in several events. Sorry if we have them and you don't. Everyone knows this team was gonna be special this year. For now on, just ask the score keeper not to keep score because we're not doing the running clock anymore. Thank the complainers and whiners for this future opponents
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Well said brother. First 2 teams you guys played tried to bring ya'll down but they couldn't do it. Ridiculous protests. You guys are great and your kids should be able to enjoy it. Personally, any coach that keeps trying this, I'd let your team go full force at their game but only for the whiners and complainers.

[quote name="DawgsOfBlue" post="1268790" timestamp="1347495923"]
[quote author=Ocho link=topic=103006.msg1268225#msg1268225 date=1347456340]
Favs - / Dogs +

Lum R vs LCM (-28)

Lum W vs Png W (-6) * G.O.W

Ned B vs Png P (+30)

Ned G vs OF O (+24)

Ned W vs Png G (+21)

Vid vs Bmt B (-50)

KTZ vs OF W (-12)

BC R vs WOS B (+8)

BC W vs Bmt G (+16)
[/quote]50 ain't happening. Now if it was Nederland Black. I'll tell ya bet da house on it!  ;D
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Vidor never talks trash and are always good sports. BMT B would not run up 50 on them.

BEAUMONT BLUE 40 - KOUNTZE 7

[quote name="bradyb" post="1262094" timestamp="1346961139"]
[quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=102115.msg1261802#msg1261802 date=1346940730]
[quote author=bwl4335 link=topic=102115.msg1261133#msg1261133 date=1346866625]
[color=red]BMT G-7 [/color]  BC R-6 
BMT B-21  [color=red]KTZ-35 [/color] 
[color=red]PNG G-20[/color]  LUM W-13 
PNG P-13  [color=red]LC-14 [/color] 
[color=red]PNG W-34[/color]  NED W-0 
VID B-6  [color=red]NED B-14[/color] 
[color=red]VID W-35[/color]  NED G-7 
OF-6  [color=red]LUM R-21 [/color] 
[color=red]WOS-21 [/color]  BC W-7
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Takes a lot of ?alls to put scores out there...can't say I agree with all of them (especially KTZ vs BMT B), but it sure will be fun to see how it shakes out.
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Yeah, I don't agree with the Kountze/Bmt score either.. Way to close. Kountze 42 Bmt 6 or 12. IF they break one on kickoff return
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Yeah, I don't agree with the Kountze/Bmt score either.. Way to close. BMT BLUE 40 - KOUNTZE 7 Sorry your Senior team lost too Coach. ;D  ;D  ;D At least your Flag Team tied at BMT today.

Bad decision, bad coaching, bad example to the kids. Ugh...adults.

[quote name="Gucci" post="1262941" timestamp="1347038042"]
Good but not dominate. Play your game or else it could get ugly real fast.
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Good? Really, just good? I'll give you, maybe not 'dominate' but I'd say they are Great, one of the Best. Better than Good.

Why do so many people hate on this team so much? It's a fantastic team. Give these kids some props. The other BMT teams are not at this level. Many other Teams are way better than BMT in JR and SR so why can't people just give these BMT B kids some credit?

[quote name="jg69421080" post="1252558" timestamp="1346085377"]
You don't think Kountze can play with BMT B, come on now.....I might understand if you say they are going to lose, or you don't think they will win, but they can't play with them. You evidently haven't seen the size of those boys hearts, guess we will see. They can play with anyone. They might not win every game, but the other team is going to know they were in a battle.
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I don't think Kountze can play with BMT B. Bmt Blue 47 Kountze 14

Did anyone but Kountze think they could? BMT B scores 90% of the time they have the ball.

[quote name="Stangpride" post="1242695" timestamp="1344361694"]
This large and small thing is the dumbest thing i ever heard.. who started this.. did yall do this so the teams from the larger schools could finally get a chance to win & not be defeated by wos?
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I think its pretty dumb too. JMHO. Beaumont is considered Large School because of West Brook?? What does West Brook have to do with this youth football league? They can't play after 6th grade. It's not a league for high school kids. In case anyone hasn't noticed Beaumont's Team is patterned off the private school Kelly Bulldogs which is a very small school. Last year there were 17 kids on Pee Wee Gold and almost all of them played the whole game. Just because there is big high school in the city doesn't mean the League has big teams.  ::) It's just one thing after another for adults to complain about to try and get their team an advantage. Just let the kids play and have fun. Better yet, start an adult football league and take your issues out there.  :P

I thought the Beaumont Bulls were in Tifi? I didn't realize you guys changed. Good luck in your new league.

[quote name="bradyb" post="1251110" timestamp="1345922240"]
Ktz 20 png 12
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Good job Kountze! Is that final?

Beaumont Blue 40 - Lumberton Red 6  ;D