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This topic is outrageous, It's extremely sad that you guys can bash a high school team like this. No one was saying they were loaded with D1 Talent, they said last year that Vaught, Lacefield, Melton, Fitz and possibly Jones would play college ball. Vaught, Lacefield and Melton are all currently playing college ball. The other arguement was that Liberty had 0 D1 players this year and the only counter was that they do, which is correct they have 1, so I don't 't see what the stir is about. It's appalling that a Liberty fan gets "admin edited" for something not very offensive but post like these are allowed to remain. It's outrageous that you guys sit here and bash children may God be with you. I'll keep the players who have to read this blasphemy in my prayers and ask that God help them not be rattled, and help them see that you guys were the ones who never got to get on the field, so you have to live through players you don't know and rival children from opposing teams.

[quote name="Dwack" post="1296007" timestamp="1349872932"] [quote author=LP6 link=topic=104201.msg1295762#msg1295762 date=1349819886] [quote author=TexasMinuteman link=topic=104201.msg1292774#msg1292774 date=1349530928] Top three will be CS,Huffman and Cleveland. Huffman could upset CS, the defending District Champs,but until they do it'll be this way. Liberty gave up 28 points to Splendora in their win last week and Cleveland didnt allow not a single point this week against them.Liberty will have to throw the ball a lot but Cleveland's secondary is too quick and if they try to run the ball all game like they did against Huffman they'll really get killed.Deel has to run more than the few number of plays he's running.   Some believe the players give up early in the game,well so do the coaches.The play selection proves this.I really feel for some of these players.The comment that Liberty has no D1 players is unfortunatly true but thats not the fault of the players that had D1 potential.I believe that a couple of these players would've had a decent chance had they been under another program.Daniel Fitzwater is a good example of this.His parents moved him where he had a better chance to be noticed.With the numbers he's putting up he is being noticed.Had he stayed at Liberty no school would even be looking. And I dont want to hear from any Liberty or Fitz haters that he's not being looked at because he is.FACT.Im not saying offers Im saying scouts.Looking and offers are different. Anyway,Liberty will get 4th at best if they dont get the big head and think they can beat Tarkington,those cowpokes are getting hungry for a district win. [/quote] I've been trying to stay off this website since Liberty is so bad and I'm a fan and don't want to get heated, but I was just appalled over and over again with the "no d1 players comment' you guys don't know our players. Omar Tebo is 300 pounds and runs under 5, he won state in power lifting, heavyweight division, I'm close friends with a former Liberty players who currently plays offensive line for Texas State University (D1 WAC) and he played with Tebo for a year or two and has no doubt in his mind that Tebo could keep up with him and his teammates. Omar isn't receiving letters anymore, he's receiving phone calls, and personal visits and some coaches have come out to watch him play/practice. He's an outstanding young man, smart, stays on his grades, and has a great family that makes sure he's on top of his game, he is polite and he happens to be an athlete. He has all the characteristics to make it to the next level then add in his size speed and strength and you would be considered ignorant for saying he won't go division 1. That's all I have to say about that topic for those of you from Huffman or wherever the heck your from thinking your some type of division 1 recruiting analyst, I'm no analyst myself but I've seen with my own eyes recruiters showing extreme interest in Omar, so have a nice day everyone. [/quote] The tangibles are certainly there and this is what scoutes will look at and recruit.  The question is the intangibles and the lack of discipline that was not instilled the last four years.  The same was true for the other person you mentioned who I hear is doing well.  The great family and the character you speak to in regards to both of these young men are what will most likely guide them through the next four to five years while being pushed.  It is a shame they did not reach the potential that God gave them while wearing black and gold. [/quote] True, and IMO that falls on the coaches. If the player has potential the coaches have to design plays and many other things to help these men reach their full potential and the coaches failed to that. The fact that there was no discipline in the program for the past 4 years shouldn't mean anything to a college coach, they have discipline at their university obviously, so they just need the athlete, and Omar Tebo is that athlete. As long as the player doesn't have discipline issues then the college coaches won't back off.

[quote name="TexasMinuteman" post="1292774" timestamp="1349530928"] Top three will be CS,Huffman and Cleveland. Huffman could upset CS, the defending District Champs,but until they do it'll be this way. Liberty gave up 28 points to Splendora in their win last week and Cleveland didnt allow not a single point this week against them.Liberty will have to throw the ball a lot but Cleveland's secondary is too quick and if they try to run the ball all game like they did against Huffman they'll really get killed.Deel has to run more than the few number of plays he's running.   Some believe the players give up early in the game,well so do the coaches.The play selection proves this.I really feel for some of these players.The comment that Liberty has no D1 players is unfortunatly true but thats not the fault of the players that had D1 potential.I believe that a couple of these players would've had a decent chance had they been under another program.Daniel Fitzwater is a good example of this.His parents moved him where he had a better chance to be noticed.With the numbers he's putting up he is being noticed.Had he stayed at Liberty no school would even be looking. And I dont want to hear from any Liberty or Fitz haters that he's not being looked at because he is.FACT.Im not saying offers Im saying scouts.Looking and offers are different. Anyway,Liberty will get 4th at best if they dont get the big head and think they can beat Tarkington,those cowpokes are getting hungry for a district win. [/quote] I've been trying to stay off this website since Liberty is so bad and I'm a fan and don't want to get heated, but I was just appalled over and over again with the "no d1 players comment' you guys don't know our players. Omar Tebo is 300 pounds and runs under 5, he won state in power lifting, heavyweight division, I'm close friends with a former Liberty players who currently plays offensive line for Texas State University (D1 WAC) and he played with Tebo for a year or two and has no doubt in his mind that Tebo could keep up with him and his teammates. Omar isn't receiving letters anymore, he's receiving phone calls, and personal visits and some coaches have come out to watch him play/practice. He's an outstanding young man, smart, stays on his grades, and has a great family that makes sure he's on top of his game, he is polite and he happens to be an athlete. He has all the characteristics to make it to the next level then add in his size speed and strength and you would be considered ignorant for saying he won't go division 1. That's all I have to say about that topic for those of you from Huffman or wherever the heck your from thinking your some type of division 1 recruiting analyst, I'm no analyst myself but I've seen with my own eyes recruiters showing extreme interest in Omar, so have a nice day everyone.

Practice starts DURING SCHOOL, and they don't get to go home they practice again before getting to leave. Your facts are straight? Unless his attendance is poor, there's no way he can miss practice all the time. I've watched many practices myself, he shines out there like he does on the field. Truth is old Liberty folks don't wanna believe that this black kid is the heart and soul of their beloved traditionally white panthers. This kid is exceptionally good, and he's even better when it comes to just this team, I see no reason why everyone keeps hating on him? He's a 17 year old athlete just trying to due his job, he gets injured now you guys want to say he was never a factor, or he wouldn't change any scores? He lead Liberty in all purpose yards and td's for the past 2 seasons, how is he not a factor you guys are insane. You wanna know why Liberty sucks, because of THIS right here look at your posts this is our best player at the end of the day he's a child who goes home to his mom does his work and gets back to school the next day comes out on Fridays and performs, he's been doing it longer than any other player on the team with Fregia having missed a season, so this is why we suck, we have no support for our children/athletes and no respect for our coaches, even if they do suck they are our coaches and we have to trust they do the right thing, and as for bashing Jones' work ethic, that's too much this ins't the NFL he doesn't get paid he's a student athlete who happens to be an exceptional student FIRST. This is outrageous to see so many liberty fans shooting down a child, who happens to be our best player, and if the coaches didn't like him so much why design your offesne around him? If he doesn't work hard why does he get the ball? If he isn't at practice why is he the one who tells all the other wide outs how and where to line up watch the games he is a leader on the field through his play alone.

[quote name="89falcon" post="1268040" timestamp="1347414631"] [quote author=LP6 link=topic=102886.msg1268024#msg1268024 date=1347414111] [quote author=89falcon link=topic=102886.msg1268021#msg1268021 date=1347413973] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=102886.msg1267235#msg1267235 date=1347338603] [quote author=89falcon link=topic=102886.msg1267101#msg1267101 date=1347328100] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=102886.msg1266986#msg1266986 date=1347320496] [quote author=Tigersvoice link=topic=102886.msg1266963#msg1266963 date=1347319346] [quote author=HDBobcats9 link=topic=102886.msg1266936#msg1266936 date=1347317149] I don't see anything wrong with picking HD to win. I looked at the schedule this year and after seeing these kids in off-season and two-a-days, there was not one game on the schedule that I said... "we're gonna get our butts handed to us". I knew Kountze would be tough this year, but you never know what Lion team will show up. The talented, fast, newly committed team showed up last week, and they handed it to us. Groveton will be tough too, but they were 3-7 last year and were beat by Trinity in Week 0. The last two times HD faced Groveton, it was a very competitive game, and I think the Bobcat team of this year is better than those HD squads. ('06/'07). Deweyville is always tough, but HD has a good chance of winning. Lovelady was awesome last year, but their enrollment is down 22% since the last alignment and they lost a ton of seniors dropping down to 1A DII... so they are beatable. Normangee will be tough, but beatable. I'm sure nobody thought that Kountze would knock off East Chambers a few years ago, or any of the other countless upsets that happen every season. That's why you play the games!! I consider myself pretty knowledgeable and I'm decent at picking games (2nd in the pick 'em contest so far... I know, to you AAW), and I think they have a decent shot at winning. We're not playing Dayton or West Orange Stark here people lol. Our coaches and kids read this stuff, so if they don't think that we believe they can win.... what does that tell them or do for their confidence? Just my .02 cents. Go Bobcats, and apparently Shock The World!! [/quote] Well, maybe if your 'Kids' would attend to things that they can control, like their team practices and their class work, instead of reading sports boards, they would give a better performance.  Just a thought. 8) [/quote] They do attend to team practices and their class work.  Every player in SETX reads these boards, that is not a sign of bad focus.  HD will have a tough challenege this week, but the game is winable.  This is a huge game for HD.  If we win this, we announce our presence in 1A.  Adjustments will be made, mistakes will be corrected, and the Cats will take Groveton down. [/quote] Unfortunately this game is not "winable". HD has no chance and should have stuck to scheduling the normal bottom feeders so they could have a good record while continuing their "tradition". Groveton scores 50 and it will depend upon how sorry the Groveton coaches feel for HD as to whether or not HD scores. Groveton has a highly athletic QB and RBs while HD has no speed or talent. It doesnt look like HD is going to be "hitting teams in mouth" as prophesied previously by the HD faithful/delusional. [/quote] Right, because you are the authority on Groveton football.  I'm sure you've seen them in person many time and can attest to their athleticism.  We submit to you and the mighty Falcon brand.  May you and your Barbers Hill transfers continue to rule the TXHSFB world. [/quote] That is correct. I have watched nearly every game they have played for the past several years. [/quote] Haha! It's one thing to use facts to make a point my friend, but when you make an extremely sarcastic post to a user who actually has seen them play quite often, you make a complete fool of your self. [/quote] It is not sarcastic, you know not what you speak of. I have watched nearly every Groveton game for the past several years. [/quote] NOT YOU LOL my bad i shouldve repsonded to his i figured you would understand what i meant was he (bringthepain) made a sarcastic statement to you, who has seen them play, therefore making of fool of himself

Barbers Hill/[b]Crosby[/b] [b]Dayton[/b]/New Caney Humble/[b]Kingwood Park[/b] [b]Bellville Faith[/b]/Orange Community Christian Houston Westside/[b]Port Arthur Memorial[/b] Clear Spring/[b]La Porte[/b] [b]West Orange-Stark[/b]/Beaumont Central [b]Summer Creek[/b]/Port Neches-Groves [b]Nederland[/b]/Angleton [b]Silsbee[/b]/Lumberton [b]Vidor[/b]/Clear Brook Hamshire-Fannett/[b]East Chambers[/b] [b]Hardin-Jefferson[/b]/Tarkington [b]Liberty[/b]/Buna [b]Newton[/b]/Orangefield [b]Bridge City[/b]/Beaumont Kelly Cleveland/[b]Sealy[/b] Coldspring-Oakhurst/[b]La Marque[/b] Kirbyville/[b]Jasper[/b] Burkeville/[b]Warren[/b] [b]San Augustine[/b]/Deweyville Woodville/[b]Corrigan-Camden[/b] [b]West Sabine[/b] at West Hardin Houston Lamar/[b]Beaumont West Brook[/b] Stephenville/[b]Beaumont Ozen[/b]

[quote name="89falcon" post="1268021" timestamp="1347413973"] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=102886.msg1267235#msg1267235 date=1347338603] [quote author=89falcon link=topic=102886.msg1267101#msg1267101 date=1347328100] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=102886.msg1266986#msg1266986 date=1347320496] [quote author=Tigersvoice link=topic=102886.msg1266963#msg1266963 date=1347319346] [quote author=HDBobcats9 link=topic=102886.msg1266936#msg1266936 date=1347317149] I don't see anything wrong with picking HD to win. I looked at the schedule this year and after seeing these kids in off-season and two-a-days, there was not one game on the schedule that I said... "we're gonna get our butts handed to us". I knew Kountze would be tough this year, but you never know what Lion team will show up. The talented, fast, newly committed team showed up last week, and they handed it to us. Groveton will be tough too, but they were 3-7 last year and were beat by Trinity in Week 0. The last two times HD faced Groveton, it was a very competitive game, and I think the Bobcat team of this year is better than those HD squads. ('06/'07). Deweyville is always tough, but HD has a good chance of winning. Lovelady was awesome last year, but their enrollment is down 22% since the last alignment and they lost a ton of seniors dropping down to 1A DII... so they are beatable. Normangee will be tough, but beatable. I'm sure nobody thought that Kountze would knock off East Chambers a few years ago, or any of the other countless upsets that happen every season. That's why you play the games!! I consider myself pretty knowledgeable and I'm decent at picking games (2nd in the pick 'em contest so far... I know, to you AAW), and I think they have a decent shot at winning. We're not playing Dayton or West Orange Stark here people lol. Our coaches and kids read this stuff, so if they don't think that we believe they can win.... what does that tell them or do for their confidence? Just my .02 cents. Go Bobcats, and apparently Shock The World!! [/quote] Well, maybe if your 'Kids' would attend to things that they can control, like their team practices and their class work, instead of reading sports boards, they would give a better performance.  Just a thought. 8) [/quote] They do attend to team practices and their class work.  Every player in SETX reads these boards, that is not a sign of bad focus.  HD will have a tough challenege this week, but the game is winable.  This is a huge game for HD.  If we win this, we announce our presence in 1A.  Adjustments will be made, mistakes will be corrected, and the Cats will take Groveton down. [/quote] Unfortunately this game is not "winable". HD has no chance and should have stuck to scheduling the normal bottom feeders so they could have a good record while continuing their "tradition". Groveton scores 50 and it will depend upon how sorry the Groveton coaches feel for HD as to whether or not HD scores. Groveton has a highly athletic QB and RBs while HD has no speed or talent. It doesnt look like HD is going to be "hitting teams in mouth" as prophesied previously by the HD faithful/delusional. [/quote] Right, because you are the authority on Groveton football.  I'm sure you've seen them in person many time and can attest to their athleticism.  We submit to you and the mighty Falcon brand.  May you and your Barbers Hill transfers continue to rule the TXHSFB world. [/quote] That is correct. I have watched nearly every game they have played for the past several years. [/quote] Haha! It's one thing to use facts to make a point my friend, but when you make an extremely sarcastic post to a user who actually has seen them play quite often, you make a complete fool of your self.

I say Galena Park wins in a close game with both sides scoring around 30 but GP scoring a little bit more.

[quote name="TROJANSWIN" post="1267960" timestamp="1347409095"] [quote author=cougar2011 link=topic=102871.msg1267406#msg1267406 date=1347371368] LM defense something Coldspring's Offense [b]have never experienced [/b] and will not be able to simulate in their practice... Lm will have to big lead early... however i'm hoping Coldspring's can make some halftime adjustments to make the game interesting. If not, shut out for la marque. LM 21 to 34 CS 10 [/quote] [b]I'm pretty sure that Carthage in '10 and Wimberley in '11 have prepared CS offense for the LaMarque defense.  [/b] I know they weren't LaMarque, but both did win the state championship that year.  I bet the game against Navasota last week has also helped to prepare CS for LaMarque.  I am not saying LaMarque is not a good team, and may beat Coldspring by 20 points this week, but I bet the Trojans have seen as good of a team in the last 2 years.  I guess we have to wait till friday to find out.  I still think the Trojans win. [/quote] I understand your post, and I see the point your trying to make, but being a 22-3A fan who has watched Coldpsring over the years and I watched Carthage in 10' on tv and i actually went to the Coldspring vs Wimberley game and was going for Coldspring both games. Now that I've said that so you dont shoot me down so easily, I've also seen LaMarque, I saw them beat Ozen and I saw them lose to Manvel, and Wimberley in 11 was nothing compared to LaMarque on O or D. If i had to scale them 1-10 say LaMarque was a 9 then i'd mark Wimberley at a 5 and 2010 Carthage at 7, so with that being said I don't believe Coldspring has ever experienced a D that will prepare them for LaMarque.

[quote name="OldTimer" post="1267539" timestamp="1347379700"] Sorry - but Hookem - as a Liberty fan please don't talk trash until we win a game or at least compete in one.  So far this year 113 - 26 is nothing to brag about.  Also, Jones is a quality athlete but would not have changed the total scores of either of the previous games by more than 7 points either way.  Fact is Liberty has a way to go and many holes that need filing before they are a quality team this year.  Hate to say it but looks like a long year for the Panthers. [/quote] Are you blind? He wasn't talking trash he was defending the fact that Jordan Jones is a "huge game changer" and if your a Liberty fan and have been around the past 3 years at least you would know that Jordan Jones is a "huge game changer" for our team. Go tell coach Deel that JJ isn't a "huge game changer" for HIS team and see what he has to say about that, Jordan Jones is the best player on the team, was the best player last year, and was the 2nd best player the year before, this kid is a huge game changer no one in their right mind would say Jordan Jones isn't a game changer for the Panther's btw he never said we would have beaten Jasper or Newton with him, just simply said he was a huge game changer.

[quote name="HookEm2013" post="1267277" timestamp="1347348967"] When did I EVER say that I was STILL in college? Smh, you my friend are definitely not the brightest crayon. Just a minute ago I was "Cord" then I was a h/s student. Make up your mind. Actually, go to sleep I'm done. My intellect drops every time I read these highly unintelligent posts of yours. ROFL! [/quote] ..

[quote name="BringThePain" post="1267232" timestamp="1347338205"] [quote author=lp4life link=topic=102907.msg1267225#msg1267225 date=1347337528] if jones plays liberty by 10+ if not should be a close one [/quote] It still amazes me that you guys view him as a huge game changer!  He is a good player, but not a world beater. [/quote] Never called him a "world beater" he's a good player yes, and in 3A he's a great player. He's faster than most on this field and for the Panther's he is the key piece to it all. He's the leader of this team and has been making plays longer than any other panther in the program, without it him it's more of a mental let down than an actual one, the players don't play up to their best abilities, not to mention the fact that our offense is built around him so why don't you get your facts straight before you make statements like that, without him the Panthers can't do much, so It "amazes" me that you don't think he is a huge game changer because on THIS field for THIS team he is a " huge game changer"

I haven't heard much about Buna, so it's hard for me to make a prediction. I'm going to say Liberty wins somehow some way, but if you guys could give me a little information on Buna that would be helpful.

I'm all for supporting your team, but when you know your going to lose why predict a win? Your post was actually very good for once, you should have focused on everything you did, and added that HD could use all these to play better in the future and against Groveton, but predicting a win hurt the decently intelligent post. Groveton 50+ HD less than 14 Kountze dominated you guys, Groveton is good, and will dominate HD as well.

Your defense is good enough to carry you guys to second. Then add the fact you have a running back who is faster than anyone on Cleveland's team, you'd have offense through that, and Austin Williams is too dynamic of a player he, along with the defense, Townley or no Townley wouldn't let Cleveland, Liberty, or Splendora beat them and the other schools wouldn't win if you didn't even send an offense out and only played with defense and special teams lol, but cs would win.

[quote name="TROJANSWIN" post="1266379" timestamp="1347238917"] From what I saw in watching LaMarque play Galveston on TV, and watching Coldspring play Navasota, they looked pretty even.  Both teams had trouble holding on to the ball.  I have a feeling who ever wins the turn over game wins this.  Coldspring 22 - LaMarque 14 [/quote] From the LaMarque game against Galveston then the LaMarque game against Texas City leads me to believe CS will get blown out. CS defense is their strength but athlete for athlete LaMarque's got them, especially in size. They should be able to run on coldspring and they should be able to use their athletes to stop the cs rushing attack.

[quote name="TexasMinuteman" post="1266375" timestamp="1347238418"] CS 27  LaMarque 22 in the upset!!! 8) [/quote] If this is serious i'll bet on it?

LaMarque low 30's Coldspring no more than 16

Huffman could take 5 different guys and put them at quarterback and they can put up stats, I haven't seen yall play to much but against Liberty it was slants and throwing in the flats which isn't very hard, and a great defense, so IMO Fitz is still better and should've gotten 1st team. Fitzwater makes a lot more difficult throws, but he wasn't let loose in Liberty he had progressions where he eyeballed receivers, in college that and apparently at his new high school, that won't happen. This year will be living proof of part of that theory Liberty goes from 7-3 to 0-2 at the moment so without Fitz they are hurting, Townley is still at Huffman so the rest is un testable but i think we would all agree Huffman would get 2nd without him, they will get first with him, that's my first prediction of the year, but either way he isn't half of Fitzwater.

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1265853" timestamp="1347198609"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=102821.msg1265842#msg1265842 date=1347197770] Yeah, because you clearly weren't implying that towley was better, period. Sure. [/quote] Here is the rehash of the same argument that was made earlier. [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100264.msg1231748#msg1231748 date=1340212659] [quote author=Tigersvoice link=topic=100264.msg1231747#msg1231747 date=1340212515] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100264.msg1231745#msg1231745 date=1340212182] [quote author=LP2012 link=topic=100264.msg1231738#msg1231738 date=1340210693] [quote author=89falcon link=topic=100264.msg1231615#msg1231615 date=1340156999] [quote author=lp4life link=topic=100264.msg1231610#msg1231610 date=1340156183] HM. 1st or 2nd team, at the end of the day the college programs could care less. They don't care what you did in high school. They look at speed, size, and strength. And at the end of the day if they think you can play they will offer. [/quote] I agree, and also at the end of the day none cares about whether or not your QB goes to college, only that he won or lost and made the playoffs or did not make the playoffs. [/quote] You can not blame a season on one player. Huffman has better supporting roles than liberty does Fitz was a great QB on an average team, where as Townleyt was a better than average qb on an above average team. [/quote] Fitz's stats in district 93-143 65% 1641 16td 4int Townley's stats in district 142-212 67% 1728 21td 6int That along with Huffman making the playoffs is why Townley was AD and Fitz was HM. [/quote] Townley had a better completion % (close); Townley had more yardage (again, close); the TD to Int ratio is also very close:  so where is the argument that Fitz should have been selected ahead of Townley? [/quote] There isn't one. Some of the Liberty fans feel that because Fitz is the better college prospect he should've been first team AD. Well the coaches go by what they see and stats not who the better prospect is. [/quote] So Once again Townley played better that night and arguably played better throughout district, which is why the coaches voted him 1st team all district, but everyone knows that Fitz is the better college prospect. [/quote] Fitz is and was the better quarterback, football player, athlete, passer, everything. He's flat out better, Townley was voted because his team won more games not because he was better, and he wasn't as big a part of you guys victory as Fitz was to ours.

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1265839" timestamp="1347197544"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=102821.msg1265763#msg1265763 date=1347170994] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=102821.msg1265746#msg1265746 date=1347168219] [quote author=LP6 link=topic=102821.msg1265554#msg1265554 date=1347159258] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=102821.msg1265546#msg1265546 date=1347159069] 2 passing td's 1 rushing td! BEAST!! [/quote] 3 touchdowns against the #1 5a team in LA, but Huffman's Townley is better than him? LOL ...just had to rag on the Falcons for that one because from day 1 i tried to tell them they weren't even in I the same league, but Liberty only sent 3 pass rushers at Townley while they blitzed us all night, Huffman had the superior coaches not the superior quarterback but i was an "idiot" for thinking the 6ft6 219 pound Fitzwater was better than Townley... once again LOL [/quote] [b]Umm..... I don't believe anyone from Huffman ever said that Townley was a better prospect than Fitz. They put up similar stats and Townley has a better surrounding cast, but we all know which QB will be playing D1.[/b] [/quote] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=88762.msg1064430#msg1064430 date=1316833775] Well well well I guess you and your infinite wisdom couldn't see the writing on the wall in the preseason so I will take this moment to say I told you so. I guess the question should of been Jones or Hardy instead of Jones or grey and [b]i think we found out who the best QB and wr in district are tonight.[/b] 40-20 can't wait to hear from the Liberty trash talkers. [/quote] [/quote] BTW no I don't judge someone's talent based off a passing camp that was the only thing I heard about him, But here are some stats. In the only game where [b]Preston Towley[/b] was the undoubted starting QB he threw for 199 yards and 1 td. That game was in the playoffs vs a PNG team that went three rounds deep. [b]He has more yards and tds in one game than fits has in 3 vs playoff teams.[/b] [/quote] Should I search for more? lol. You don't have to lie dude, rofl! You were clearly implying that towley was better than Fitz. Smh [/quote] Exactly I never said Townley was the better prospect. Townley played better that night, put up similar stats in district, and deserved to all district over Fitz. Just like Scott from Coldspring was all district over Fitz as well, but do any of us think Scott is the better prospect? I don't think so. Btw your second quote doesn't even fit the argument lol. [/quote] Falconfanatic ive been reasonable with you these past few months and put the trash talk aside, but said " we found out who the best qb in the district is" that statement means you thought Townley was better. You didn't say better performer on that night, you just said "better" and im just saying and have been saying he's not better. IDC about supporting cast, IDC about coaching or anything the arguement was Fitz has always been better, and to answer ol dude up theres question he didn't get it done in Liberty because the coaches couldn't use him like his new coaches can. Point of the argument you guys did say Townley was "better" now what you meant by that is all your head i cant tell you what you think but i can show you what you said, Fitz was better in lib hes better in LA and he'll be better in college

[quote name="HookEm2013" post="1265546" timestamp="1347159069"] 2 passing td's 1 rushing td! BEAST!! [/quote] 3 touchdowns against the #1 5a team in LA, but Huffman's Townley is better than him? LOL ...just had to rag on the Falcons for that one because from day 1 i tried to tell them they weren't even in the same league, but Liberty only sent 3 pass rushers at Townley while they blitzed us all night, Huffman had the superior coaches not the superior quarterback but i was an "idiot" for thinking the 6ft6 219 pound Fitzwater was better than Townley... once again LOL

ex Liberty Panther quarterback Daniel Fitzwater led his school (Calvary Babtist Academy) to a win over West Monroe the number one ranked 5a team in the state of Louisiana. I don't have his overall stats yet but the last thing West Monroe radio announcers said was "well this Fitzwater kid...well...he's just the real deal folks" so I'm assuming he was a force.

Congrats to Kountze, like I said since HD hired the new coach, you guys should go  beat some quality teams before you claim your good. I realize with a team who is traditionally good that's been bad the past few years was excited at signs of improvement but you guys jumped way too far ahead of yourselves. At first Kountze was a "globetrotter basketball team" then they DOMINATED HD, and now they "have a shot at playoffs in their district" lol. I'm just happy to see the HD fans back down to earth, now i hope you know you have to prove it before you claim your a good team.

If Tarkington's QB is 1/8 of what you said then I predict Tarkington to win in a low scoring ugly game. HD just wants to act like everyone they beat is good, if they beat Kountze they will turn from calling them a globetrotter bball team to saying, well they are good team they have some good athletes and a guy who can run the ball. lol