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The Coldspring-Oakhurst Trojans continued District 11-3A-I play tonight as they host the Kountze Lions. Mark Byrd's Trojans, 3-4 on the season, fell to 3-1 in district play with a 40-35 loss to Buna. Meanwhile, the Lions, 2-6 on the season, fell to 0-4 in district play with a 66-28 loss to Woodville last Friday. Join Kraig Erwin and Elmer Luck for all of the action from Trojan Field in Coldspring beginning with the kickoff at 7:30 by tuning your radio to KETX 1440 AM or by clicking on the following link: [Hidden Content] Follow Coldspring-Oakhurst Trojan Football on The Score, KETX 1440 AM and Your Source for Sports in Southeast Texas, SETXsports!

The Livingston Lions continue their fight for a 5A-II berth tonight as they travel to Beaumont to take on the Beaumont Central Jaguars. Brian Broussard's Lions, 4-4 on the season, fell to 3-3 in District 22-5A play with a 54-0 loss to Port Arthur Memorial last week. Meanwhile, the Jaguars 3-5 on the season, fell to 2-4 on the season with a 35-20 loss to Port Neches-Groves last Friday. Join Ken Luck and Clint Davis for all of the action from the Carroll A. Thomas Educational Support Center in Beaumont beginning with the kickoff at 7 by tuning your radio to KETX 92.3 FM or by clicking on the following link: [Hidden Content] Follow Livingston Lions Football on The Eagle, KETX 92.3 FM and Your Source for Sports in Southeast Texas, SETXsports!

The West Orange-Stark Mustangs look to wrap up the #1 seed tonight as they host the Liberty Panthers in 12-4A-II play. Cornel Thompson' Mustangs, 8-0 on the season, were off last Friday after moving to 2-0 the Friday before with a 62-0 win over Hardin-Jefferson. Meanwhile, the Panthers, 8-1 on the season, fell to 2-1 on the season last week with a 17-14 loss to Hardin-Jefferson. Join Gary Stelly and John Kimbrough for all of the action from Dan R. Hooks Stadium in West Orange starting with the kickoff at 7:30 by tuning your radio to AM 1600 KOGT or by clicking on the following link: [Hidden Content] Follow Greater Orange Area Football on Your Hometown Radio Station, AM 1600 KOGT and Your Source for Sports in Southeast Texas, SETXsports!

The Newton Eagles continue 10-3A-II play tonight as they travel to Hemphill to take on the Hemphill Hornets. W.T. Johnston's Eagles, 8-0 on the season, improved to 3-0 on the season with a 43-8 win over Corrigan-Camden last Friday. Meanwhile, the Hornets, 0-8 on the season, fell to 0-3 with a 49-18 loss to Garrison on Friday. Join Bobby FIllyaw, Donnie Meek and Jon Meek for all of the action from Hornet Stadium in Hemphill beginning with the Granger Chevrolet Pregame Show at 7 followed by the kickoff at 7:30 by tuning your radio to KTXJ 102.7 FM or by clicking play on the following Cube player: Share Events on The Cube Follow Newton Eagle Football on the Gospel Giant, KTXJ 102.7 FM and Your Source for Sports in Southeast Texas, SETXsports!

The Silsbee Tigers look to wrap up a 4A-I playoff spot tonight as they host the Huffman Hargrave Falcons tonight on Senior Night. Randy Smith's Tigers, 4-4 on the season, fell to 2-1 in 10-4A-I play with a 42-41 loss to Bridge City. Meanwhile, the Falcons, also 4-4 on the season, fell to 1-2 in district play with a 41-26 loss to Little Cypress-Mauriceville. Join Mike Sanchez and Tim Scoggins for all of the action from Tiger Stadium in Silsbee beginning with the Silsbee Motor Company Pregame Show at 6:30 followed by the kickoff at 7 by tuning your radio to KBED 1450/KIKR 1510 AM or by clicking play on the following player: Share Events on The Cube Follow Silsbee Tiger Sports on KBED 1450/KIKR 1510 AM and on Your Source for Sports in Southeast Texas, SETXsports!

2016-17 HIGH SCHOOL BOYS BASKETBALL RANKINGS PRESEASON 6A-4A Poll Rank, Team, Record, Previous, Next Opponents 1. Silsbee, 0-0, NA, 11/23 vs. Houston Christian (Hoopsgiving) 2. Beaumont Ozen, 0-0, NA, TBA 3. Galena Park North Shore, 0-0, NA, 11/15 at Aldine Nimitz 4. Atascocita, 0-0, NA, TBA 5. Beaumont Central, 0-0, NA, TBA 6. Humble, 0-0, NA, 11/17-19 at Texas Invitational 7. Port Arthur Memorial, 0-0, NA, TBA 8. Nederland, 0-0, NA, 11/15 at 3A-P #1 Beaumont Kelly Catholic 9. Huffman Hargrave, 0-0, NA, 11/15 at Dayton 10. Hardin-Jefferson, 0-0, NA, 11/15 vs. West Orange-Stark 11. Lufkin Hudson, 0-0, NA, 11/15 vs. Huntsville 12. Baytown Sterling, 0-0, NA, TBA 13. Beaumont West Brook, 0-0, NA, TBA 14. Humble Summer Creek, 0-0, NA, 11/15 vs. Fort Bend Ridge Point 15. Kingwood, 0-0, NA, 11/12 at Jersey Village 3A-Private Poll Rank, Team, Record, Previous, Next Week's Opponents 1. Beaumont Kelly Catholic, 0-0, NA, 11/1 vs. HCYA 2. Kountze, 0-0, NA, 11/22 at Onalaska 3. San Augustine, 0-0, NA, 12/1-3 at West Sabine Tournament 4. Dallardsville Big Sandy, 0-0, NA, 11/15 vs. Spurger 5. Crockett, 0-0, NA, 11/22 at Jasper 6. Coldspring-Oakhurst, 0-0, NA, TBA 7. East Chambers, 0-0, NA, TBA 8. Beaumont Legacy Christian, 0-0, NA, 11/18-19 at Houston Lutheran South Tournament 9. Buna, 0-0, NA, 11/21 vs. Hull-Daisetta 10. Leggett, 0-0, NA, TBA 11. Evadale, 0-0, NA, 11/22 at Beaumont Legacy Christian 12. Nacogdoches Central Heights, 0-0, NA, 11/11 vs. Tyler John Tyler 13. Baytown Christian, 0-0, NA, 11/8 vs. Sugar Land Logos Prep 14. Woodville, 0-0, NA, TBA 15. Sabine Pass, 0-0, NA, 11/22 at Orange Community Christian

Coach McCarty (an SFA University alum) left WO-S to take the coaching position at Nacgodoches High. After Nacogdoches, he went to SFA where served first as associate athletic director and then Athletic Director for the University until very recently. I think he currently lives in Alto and, yes, he still does keep up with the Mustangs.

Gentlemen, when I pruned this very thread this spring, it was in hopes that folks would leave the discussion on the why's and how's of this transfer to the 22-6A DEC as that is the appropriate body to discuss this, not this forum. Unfortunately, that does not appear to be the case. Thus, it seems the only way to stem the tide is to close this thread.

Of course, WO-S has lost games I thought they should have won. But in those games, just like when they have won, the final arbitor of who is the better team is the scoreboard and I have many times said so following a Mustang loss. The rules regarding how you score, how many points you score for a particular act, how the other teams get the ball from you, things that can prevent you getting points for a score have all been in place and have been universally accepted by all who have participated as the determination of the best team for longer than either you or I have been alive. I've seen many a game where the "favorite" didn't win, yet in none of those games has the result stated on the scoreboard been disallowed by a sanctioning body simply because the "favorite" didn't win. Have you?

The scoreboard disagreed with you.

Probably? Yes. In fact, when I was discussing the playoff situation with Gabe for his column this weekend, I had originally told him that Nederland could clinch the final playoff spot this weekend based on this. But I had to walk that back and can only agree to "probably" as your scenario assumes a Central win in Week 11 and while I agree that will probably happen, I have seen teams spit the bit with bigger advantages.

Nope, from my laptop. LOL!

22-5A is a little more complicated as, unlike 21-5A who is the 4th team is still undetermined and who that team is can shake up division reps and seedings. But here goes: Memorial, Vidor and PN-G have clinched playoffs spots: Memorial - Clinches DI, #1 seed with a win over Baytown Lee this week OR a PN-G loss to Beaumont Ozen. If neither of those happen this week , they can still earn the DI, #1 seed next week with a win over Vidor OR a PN-G loss to Nederland OR if Nederland or Central gain the final playoff spot. Vidor - Idle this week but can clinch DII, #1 seed this week with a Livingston win over Central AND a Nederland loss to Lumberton. Even if that doesn't happen, Vidor can get the DII, #1 seed next week with either of the following: 1. a win and a PN-G loss this week or to Nederland next week OR 2. Livingston gets the final playoff spot. Otherwise, Vidor will be the DII#2 seed. Port Neches-Groves - Probably the most unstable as far as both division and seeding. If Livingston gets the final playoff spot they will be Division I. If either Nederland or Central get the 4th spot, they will be Division II. If they go Division I, they can get the DI #1 seeding if they go 2-0 AND Memorial goes 0-2 in their final 2 games. Otherwise, they will be DI, #2. If they go Division II, they can get the DII #1 spot if they win their final 2 games or PNG wins one of their last two games Vidor loses to Port Arthur Memorial next week. At this point let me acknowledge there is a scenario that Memorial, PN-G and Vidor could tie for the district championship in a manner which would call for a positive point calculation to determine district standings. However, in the past in cases where the tie was to determine seeding within a Division as opposed to who advanced and who stayed home, this District has chosen to merely settle the ties head to head between the teams in like Divisions as opposed to a true positive point, or as 22-5A calls it net point, system. Now back to the teams. Livingston can clinch the Division II, #2 seed this week by beating Beaumont Central AND a Nederland loss to Lumberton this week. They can also earn that spot if PN-G wins one of its last two games, Nederland loses one of its last 2 games AND Livingston beats both Central and Ozen. Nederland can earn the Division I, #2 seed by going 2-0 in their final 2 games and, Livingston going 1-1 in their final 2 games. They can also earn it if both they and Livingston go 1-1 in their final 2 games and Central goes 2-0 in their final 2 games but beats Livingston by 13 points or less. Finally, they can also earn it if both Nederland and Livingston go 2-0 in their final 2 games and PN-G goes 0-2 in their final two games. Central can earn the Division I, #2 seed by 1) going 2-0 in their final 2 games, beating Livingston by 14 or more this week and Nederland and Livingston both going 1-1 in their final 2 game OR 2) going 2-0 in their final 2 games and Nederland going 0-2 in their final 2 games. I think that covers it.

Oops! I meant Week 9 results folks.

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Well, first Porter is starting to get some pub as DCTF has them in their Top 25 this week at #18. But, I have to echo what idk said, they are having a great season and someone whose stock is really rising as a coach is Jim Holley after seeing the before and afters at both Porter and Kingwood Park. That being said, they have yet to face 2 of the 3 other teams which will represent 21-5A in the playoffs and have yet to be able to claim the title atop 21-5A, much less the state.

And who WO-S beats won't change the fact that Henderson is going nowhere.

This discussion has missed one potential element that contributed to the loss....that Hardin-Jefferson might just be that good. I know, folks want to point to the 62-0 loss the week before but the fact is that WO-S has done that to everybody that they have played so far. H-J is a team that was able to improve over last year when they were adjusting to a new coach (and yet were not that many points away from reversing their fortunes last season) and had a quality win over Jasper coming into this game. Sure, if you would have asked me on last Friday morning, I would have chosen Liberty but I can't say I was surprised about the outcome. In fact, I had warned earlier in the week of this result as it appeared that they were overlooking a team that I felt was much closer in quality to them than they did. And this is not to in any way meant to dismiss the quality of Liberty. They are a really good team who have done things that a Panther team has not done in a while and they have deserved the notoriety that they received. In fact, I am kinda disappointed with those, both locally and across the state, who going into last week were so high on Liberty yet have jumped off of the bandwagon with reckless abandon after a 3 point loss. But to dismiss this as a "fluke" is doing a bit of disservice.

6A: [Hidden Content] #4 - The Woodlands #10 - North Shore #15 - Atascocita 5A: [Hidden Content] #16 - Port Arthur Memorial #21 - Port Neches-Groves 4A: [Hidden Content] DI #24 - Bridge City DII #1 - West Orange-Stark DII #14 - Bellville DII #19 - Jasper DII #24 - Shepherd 3A: [Hidden Content] DI #9 - La Marque DI #15 - Hitchcock DI #16 - Woodville DI #24 - Kirbyville DII #1 - Newton DII #7 - Crockett DII #24 - Garrison 2A: [Hidden Content] DI #10 - Centerville DI #11 - Lovelady DI #14 - Price Carlisle DI #16 - Joaquin DI #21 - San Augustine DII #22 - Iola DII #24 - Evadale

6A: [Hidden Content] #5 - The Woodlands #9 - Galena Park North Shore 5A: [Hidden Content] #15 Port Arthur Memorial #18 - Porter #22 - Port Neches-Groves 4A, DI: [Hidden Content] 4A, DII: [Hidden Content] #1 - West Orange-Stark 3A, DI: [Hidden Content] #5 - La Marque 3A, DII: [Hidden Content] #1 - Newton 2A, DI: [Hidden Content] #8 - Groveton #10 - Price Carlisle 2A, DII: [Hidden Content] 1A, DI: [Hidden Content] #10 - Gilmer Union Hill 1A, DII: [Hidden Content] Private 11man: [Hidden Content] #2 - Houston St. Pius X #4 - Houston Northland Christian Private 6man: [Hidden Content] #3 - Baytown Christian

And the fact they are or aren't impressed doesn't change the fact that the only thing interrupting basketball practice at Henderson will be the Thanksgiving break.

Which doesn't change the fact that Henderson's tent will be folded and packed before the playoffs get too far underway.

Yes, I will update it after this week's results.

Which still doesn't change the fact that Henderson is going nowhere.

Yet, if WO-S doesn't, it still doesn't change the fact that Henderson is going nowhere.