BMTSoulja1

If there is more to be said about this game, let it  be said.  After that move on.  In other words , y'all won't be dictating when we 'move on'.

[quote name="Txdragon" post="1273084" timestamp="1347755191"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=103084.msg1273073#msg1273073 date=1347754821] Honesty, this is rock bottom.  We lost to a school that had about 16 or 17 suited up players.  Although both defenses played lights out, WO-S did just enough to win on offense.  Which is good for them.  Us?  2 trips in the red zone with NO points to show for it, receivers dropping passes (with the exception of G. Mitchell), offensive linemen that don't know how to block, and finally, 'staff' that couldn't year open a wet paper bag without the help of an Instruction manual.  Those guys didn't have depth at all.  We threw no screen passes.  We lined up in the I formation. ONCE.  We Throw a slant pass for a gain of 10 yards, never to go back to it again.  We run an option. Play that hadn't worked in 3 years and counting.  WO-S got their  first  first down with 3 mins left in the first half.  You should win games when your  defense is fired up line that.  But once again, our staff finds a way to bungle that up.  There's NO reason at all to be shut out at home by a team that has 75% of it's team going both ways.  He stings will do great in that district, but they better shore that offense up and get creative, or it'll be an early playoff exit again.  Central, Catch the passes for crying out loud and it'll be a lot easier.  You may even be able to run the ball decently for a change.  At the rate we're going, we'll get the last  spot at best.    And that's only because our district is so top heavy. [/quote] hang in there Soulja..dropped passes and penalties really hurt you last night. Your right about our offense. We have (and we can) pass the ball better. We have to take shots downfield and over the middle or others will just put their guys out in the flat like ya'll did. Your a good team. If I was a coach i'd be concerned about the fact that players are hanging heads with a whole quarter to play. Good luck, yes ya'll have a good enough team to make a playoff appearence. Really liked the speed of your D. [/quote]Thanks.  I agree with you totally.

[quote name="Big Ford" post="1272132" timestamp="1347689075"] [quote author=D3zii link=topic=103084.msg1271967#msg1271967 date=1347683952] [quote author=SFA85 link=topic=103084.msg1271699#msg1271699 date=1347679039] Central does well when the QB can't throw.  Mitchell hasn't improved over the 3 years and neither has the play calling.  Defense was outstanding considering the short fields they had to defend.  Put Mitchell in the secondary and switch back to the wishbone is the only way Central can win consistantly [/quote] Hmm not to say your wrong, but look at the talent Mitchell had his Fresh and Soph year. He had at the very least, 3 good recivers and 2 good backs to get the ball to and take the pressure off him. He was surronded by playmakers. Last season and seems the same this season, he doesnt really have alot of players around him which is rare for a central team. Ive seen the kid play ball and throw. He has all the mechanics to be a great one. Just no one to get the ball to. [/quote] SFA85, you are so correct.  I said a couple of years ago when they were trying to play sissy ball (spread) that they should just play Vidor's style of offense.  Yes I said that seriously.  We line up with 2 and 4 receivers but every body knows that our passing isn't a serious threat.  If we do have a QB that can accurately get the receivers the ball, they can't catch it. I've watched this kid since he first stepped in his freshman year in a playoff game in Baytown.  I was like man he is going to be special.  Well he hasn't failed us, the coaching staff at Central has failed him and us.  They have not progressed with his development at all.  I bet if he had been a Bruin or Panther, he would probably have some decent scholarship offers.  Stump worked wonders with what he had and Nelson seems to be doing fine too.  Not us.  We have another special QB in the pipeline, I guess we'll just waste him away too... Central has more athletes then the other 2 schools in Beaumont hands down in my opinion.  But due to coaching, they don't utilize and progress with them in the correct manner.  If Central fails to make the playoffs for 2 years in a row, it SHOULD be time for a change at the top with NO holdovers.  And stop hiring these guys from here, they are too budy budy with the players.  Instead of being like Suggs and Stowers, there to coach football, not make friends.  That's the real reason we had playoff runs back then... [/quote]Preach, Jaguar!

Honesty, this is rock bottom.  We lost to a school that had about 16 or 17 suited up players.  Although both defenses played lights out, WO-S did just enough to win on offense.  Which is good for them.  Us?  2 trips in the red zone with NO points to show for it, receivers dropping passes (with the exception of G. Mitchell), offensive linemen that don't know how to block, and finally, 'staff' that couldn't year open a wet paper bag without the help of an Instruction manual.  Those guys didn't have depth at all.  We threw no screen passes.  We lined up in the I formation. ONCE.  We Throw a slant pass for a gain of 10 yards, never to go back to it again.  We run an option. Play that hadn't worked in 3 years and counting.  WO-S got their  first  first down with 3 mins left in the first half.  You should win games when your  defense is fired up line that.  But once again, our staff finds a way to bungle that up.  There's NO reason at all to be shut out at home by a team that has 75% of it's team going both ways.  He stings will do great in that district, but they better shore that offense up and get creative, or it'll be an early playoff exit again.  Central, Catch the passes for crying out loud and it'll be a lot easier.  You may even be able to run the ball decently for a change.  At the rate we're going, we'll get the last  spot at best.    And that's only because our district is so top heavy.

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[quote name="Majestyk" post="1269681" timestamp="1347587458"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=102792.msg1269671#msg1269671 date=1347586973] [quote author=Majestyk link=topic=102792.msg1269651#msg1269651 date=1347585943] This will be a great game and I will be there but the outcome is not in doubt.  Central cannot play with  WO-S, that is a natual fact.  Yes they will have their moments and will make a good showing but winning is not an option unless something very strange happens.  I do not sugarcoat and I do not tell you what you want to hear, I just speak facts.  WO-S by 13, and one heck of a game it will be. [/quote]We cannot play with you but we played with a team in week 0that just went to the state simis in 5a with many players returning.  Sso I ask, what kind of logic is that ...'not an option'.  Man, please. [/quote]Soulja, yall did play them guys tough and that was awesome, I'm just saying that Central loses this week, heck it will probably be a nail biter but they go down.  Sorry, everyone gets to game week and starts to wishing and hoping, I've done it, but no, Central is goin down. [/quote] 8) 8)

[quote name="Majestyk" post="1269651" timestamp="1347585943"] This will be a great game and I will be there but the outcome is not in doubt.  Central cannot play with  WO-S, that is a natual fact.  Yes they will have their moments and will make a good showing but winning is not an option unless something very strange happens.  I do not sugarcoat and I do not tell you what you want to hear, I just speak facts.  WO-S by 13, and one heck of a game it will be. [/quote]We cannot play with you but we played with a team in week 0that just went to the state simis in 5a with many players returning.  Sso I ask, what kind of logic is that ...'not an option'.  Man, please.

It would seem that someone wrote a check that their you know what can't cash. [quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1268872" timestamp="1347502248"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=102792.msg1268871#msg1268871 date=1347501909] :o :o[quote author=wbfan link=topic=102792.msg1268694#msg1268694 date=1347486795] [quote author=jkbtjc53 link=topic=102792.msg1266046#msg1266046 date=1347214270] The last-time WO-S played central was in 2006 when Brandon Williams (A&M commit was at QB) and Its a reason why Beaumnt schools and PA took WO-S off the schedule nobody wants to be the big school that loses over and over to a little 3A school. lol [/quote] I can't recall the last time WOS played Brook. What I do recall however, is every local team not named Central, PAM and Ozen running for the hills when Stump came to town.  8) [/quote] [/quote] What SETX teams other than PAM, Central and Ozen have played WB during Stump's stay? [/quote]

:o :o[quote name="wbfan" post="1268694" timestamp="1347486795"] [quote author=jkbtjc53 link=topic=102792.msg1266046#msg1266046 date=1347214270] The last-time WO-S played central was in 2006 when Brandon Williams (A&M commit was at QB) and Its a reason why Beaumnt schools and PA took WO-S off the schedule nobody wants to be the big school that loses over and over to a little 3A school. lol [/quote] I can't recall the last time WOS played Brook. What I do recall however, is every local team not named Central, PAM and Ozen running for the hills when Stump came to town.  8) [/quote]

Very good analysis.  I completely agree with how this will go down.[quote name="Gasilla" post="1268658" timestamp="1347484873"] Central will match up with us better than either of our first two opponents. We have not seen a team yet this year, in our games or scrimmages that compare to the speed of the game that Central is going to bring. On the other hand, Central HAS played teams that can bring to the table what we will. Although I think both of those teams are in rebuilding years right now. Had they faced last years PAM or WB and played them that close I would be a whole lot more worried. But, as it stands, you can throw out the records. This game will be close and anyone who thinks other wise is not using very good judgement. I will not be surprised by whichever team wins, and I don't see a blow out either way unless there are turnovers early and one team or the other just gets way down quick and it gets out of hand. I don't see either team shutting the other out either. [/quote]

[quote name="coach pops" post="1268722" timestamp="1347489723"] Retired Stang Coach Dan Hooks Officiates His First Game-Gets Mixed Reviews [/quote] ;D ;D

Bumpity bump.

Ozen was invited to this event after their impressive playoff run last year.  Therefore, they accepted.  Ozen, go out there and represent!  BTW, was Silsbee invited to a big event like this?  If they were, would you be AGAINST them going?  Take your time in answering.  I have all day.[quote name="Tigersvoice" post="1267399" timestamp="1347370858"] [quote author=NDNation link=topic=102920.msg1267390#msg1267390 date=1347370311] Wow...Ozen going all the way to Dallas for a preseason game...safe travels Panthers, bring home a 20-4A win! [/quote] Travel budget is apparently not a problem at BISD like it is in other school districts. ??? [/quote]

8)[quote name="Txdragon" post="1266483" timestamp="1347247395"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=102792.msg1266412#msg1266412 date=1347241067] Wooow!  You beat LC-M?  Yoy want a cookie for that?[quote author=Txdragon link=topic=102792.msg1266400#msg1266400 date=1347240067] Central, if your soooooooo confident. Just suit up your top 30 kids, keep the others home so the depth factor is equal and let's play. What other 3A school in the area schedules schools consistently every year that has twice the amount of players we have and has such an outstanding record as we do? Central had better worry more about PN-G than us. AS far as your district, we have already proven we can hang with Vidor and Nederland. Already beat LC-M, and PN-G. [/quote] [/quote] PN-G has beat you the past three years..want a cookie for that? Seriously, I hope it is a great game and everyone comes out with no injuries. Enjoyed the verbal sparring with you Soulja. [/quote]

I've been trying to tell them.[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1266410" timestamp="1347240923"] [quote author=jkbtjc53 link=topic=102792.msg1264834#msg1264834 date=1347123134] [b]trust me you guys have not played a team more athletic then THIS YEARS WO-S team especially not on defense.[/b]. You will see friday night these kids are on another level this year.. 6 D-1 ball players on defense. [/quote] Central has played PA Memorial this year. PAM is every bit as athletic as WO-S. Memorial is much bigger on the front lines that WO-S. [/quote]

Wooow!  You beat LC-M?  Yoy want a cookie for that?[quote name="Txdragon" post="1266400" timestamp="1347240067"] Central, if your soooooooo confident. Just suit up your top 30 kids, keep the others home so the depth factor is equal and let's play. What other 3A school in the area schedules schools consistently every year that has twice the amount of players we have and has such an outstanding record as we do? Central had better worry more about PN-G than us. AS far as your district, we have already proven we can hang with Vidor and Nederland. Already beat LC-M, and PN-G. [/quote]

[quote name="bobbymcgee" post="1266318" timestamp="1347233873"] Cornel T vs. Cox, that coaching matchup is almost unfair [/quote]Umm...  Cox is an assistant coach.  Washington is the man...  Nevertheless, I see your point. 

I think we have some good pieces to work with.  I think after week 1, I'm sure we'll battle for a playoff spot.  When you play a team and leave 6 td's and lose by a score,i  think you can correct those mistakes. I think we've found a. Emerging playmaker in Garrison Mitchell . I  also think that the Memorial fan that says our defense sucks and then backdoors and say that Ozen has a better defense must be smoking.  We lost to yall by 3 and yall beat Ozen by a lot more.

Lol.  I agree with everything you said...  And im glad to hear you decided to marry a Jaguar.  We have that in common.  Lol[quote name="BigD 95" post="1266265" timestamp="1347228097"] WOS is a 3A Team who actually have 2A #'s...  For them to even compete with these 4A teams is impressive.  As for the Vidor SCRIMMAGE, there are players who played roles in that PRACTICE that didn't even make VARSITY.  Also, remember WOS strength is Field Position, which is often set up through their Defense, Great Special Teams Play, and Return Game.  In a SCRIMMAGE there are no RETURNS, no rushing the punter, etc... It is a PRACTICE.  I also recall in that PRACTICE, WOS got a pick or a fumble recovery (can't remember) that was blown dead, because it was a SCRIMMAGE..  Lots of backup players got reps, that they wouldn't normally get (for both teams), so I put absolutely no stock in a FINAL SCORE of a SCRIMMAGE.  With that being said, I will not predict a score, but I will say this will be a very physical, hard hitting game, it always is.  Central is battle tested, and they always play physical.  They can match WOS with athletes, but I think a strong edge goes to WOS Coaches in this one.  I have attended several Central games, and I can figure out some of the coaches decision making.  JMO..  Should be a good one.  My wife is a Jaguar & I am a Mustang..  Gon be Interesting.. lol [/quote]

[quote name="Wonderboy" post="1266149" timestamp="1347219888"] I find it rather amusing that the fans of 4A teams the the size of Vidor, Nederland, PNG, and Central all like to trash talk about beating a barely 3A school like WOS. My personal opinion is that (most of the time) a 4A school should be able to beat a small 3A school, and a 5A school like West Brook or PA Memorial should be able beat  a smaller school like Central.  I expect Vidor to beat Bridge City or Silsbee. It wouldn't really surprise me if Nederland or PNG beat WOS.  Those bigger schools have way more players and can rotate in players to keep them fresh, while small schools like WOS have quite a few playing both sides of the ball and by the end of the game these kids are worn out. You Central fans keep talking about how good you are and how you are going to run though WOS, even if Central wins the game by the score on the scoreboard, it still won't be much of a victory beating a barely 3A school. Beating WOS does not count in your own district and WOS is not certainly not Ozen, Nederland or Vidor.  These are the teams Central has to get past before you fans start trash talking anybody. I think Central is 0-2 right now. BTW, some of you need to check you sig, it is not West-Orange Stark (W-OS), it's West Orange-Stark (WO-S). [/quote] Please show me where I or any Central fan stayed that we would 'run through' WO-S...  I'll wait..

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1266148" timestamp="1347219846"] [quote author=bigd92 link=topic=102792.msg1266137#msg1266137 date=1347219220] :P that's hilarious. Y'all can't stomp with the big dogs, I hope Central beat the brakes off of the Stangs. [/quote] The funny thing is Memorial has [b]never[/b] played WO-S to even have the option of taking them off of a schedule LOL  ;D ;D : [/quote] :o :o ;D ;D

[quote name="One4All" post="1266085" timestamp="1347216447"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=102792.msg1266075#msg1266075 date=1347216023] [quote author=Txdragon link=topic=102792.msg1266068#msg1266068 date=1347215791] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=102792.msg1265816#msg1265816 date=1347195976] [quote author=friendswoodkid link=topic=102792.msg1265778#msg1265778 date=1347189306] Stangs too much it will get ugly WOS would run thru district 204a [/quote]Didn't WO-S scrimmage Vidor, a 20-4a team?  Did that get 'ugly'.  I heard it did...  But not in your favor.  Hmmmm.  Run through? I think not.  Now that I'm thinking, did you 'run through' Nederland last year?  I believe their a member of the same district you you would 'run through'.  ...and trust me, you wouldnt want to see them this year... [/quote] Vidor was not ugly....in fact it was very close. You ARE NOT Vidor, not even close.  As far as Nederland last year, if the refs happen to catch the guy going down at the one, we would have beat Nederland. You ARE NOT Nederland. Looking forward to making the "butch" empty out early. Should be a great game. [/quote]Beating PG-G have you guys feeling like you've just won the state title, huh?  Smh [/quote] Nah , WOS is  just happy central  decided to put them back on  to schedule [/quote]I assume that it's a 'by default' thing.  Galveston Ball is trash.  We don't play them now, so you're on the schedule.  Your definatly better than Ball.  I'll give you that.

[quote name="Txdragon" post="1266081" timestamp="1347216207"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=102792.msg1266075#msg1266075 date=1347216023] [quote author=Txdragon link=topic=102792.msg1266068#msg1266068 date=1347215791] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=102792.msg1265816#msg1265816 date=1347195976] [quote author=friendswoodkid link=topic=102792.msg1265778#msg1265778 date=1347189306] Stangs too much it will get ugly WOS would run thru district 204a [/quote]Didn't WO-S scrimmage Vidor, a 20-4a team?  Did that get 'ugly'.  I heard it did...  But not in your favor.  Hmmmm.  Run through? I think not.  Now that I'm thinking, did you 'run through' Nederland last year?  I believe their a member of the same district you you would 'run through'.  ...and trust me, you wouldnt want to see them this year... [/quote] Vidor was not ugly....in fact it was very close. You ARE NOT Vidor, not even close.  As far as Nederland last year, if the refs happen to catch the guy going down at the one, we would have beat Nederland. You ARE NOT Nederland. Looking forward to making the "butch" empty out early. Should be a great game. [/quote]Beating PG-G have you guys feeling like you've just won the state title, huh?  Smh [/quote] Just another game to us, our goal is the end of the year. [/quote]Ditto.  Same here.

[quote name="One4All" post="1266077" timestamp="1347216105"] last playoff appearance for Central ,Hmmmm Who can remember FACT [/quote]would it be considered af fact since you're the only one  CAN'T remember?  I call that being 'blind' to the fact.  ;)

[quote name="Txdragon" post="1266074" timestamp="1347216004"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=102792.msg1266069#msg1266069 date=1347215826] Last state title appearance...  Almost 2 decades ago...  Fact [/quote] When was Central's or even PAM's last one? [/quote]Bad example, Sunshine.  Neither team have been around as long as the Stangs.