82 5A State Champs

Crosby is in, what, 19-4A? Not a powerhouse 4A district, some would say. How does the level of competition in that 4A district, compare to what he's going to see in 21-5A? NS, PAM, LP, DP.....these aren't scrub 5A teams! I am optimistic, and hopeful, that this guy can keep WB at the top of the heap without missing a beat. Good luck to him. I hope he does a fantastic job, at WB. This could certainly be the most talent rich school he has coached at. Let's hope he uses it wisely!

Can anyone tell me what kind of W/L record he had at Crosby? I wouls like to examine those scores, and record, for myself. I am excited about Coach Flanagan coming to West Brook, but would like some more information on his coaching style, and theories, and how he plans to keep WB on the winning track.

[quote name="incognito123" post="1173900" timestamp="1328668026"] I am really surprised to see Joe Slack's name on this list.  Talk about swinging for the fences! [/quote]I dont feel very confident that this guy would even be considered for the position. After looking at his credentials, I think its best if he stayed in the smaller school ranks. The teams, and schools that WB plays, aren't anything like the ones he coached against at HD.

Hmmm, thats interesting. Coach Haynes has 21 years as a head coach.  Coach Haynes is the most winning active coach in the entire Southeast Texas area with a record of 146 wins and 69 losses, 5 District Championships, 8 Bi-District Championships, and 1 Regional Finalist. Haynes has been named Coach of the Year 9 times and was also the NFL High school Coach of the year Award Nominee in 2003, holding the highest award a high school coach can receive.  Coach Haynes has also had 6 teams qualify for the 7 on 7 State Championship. It will be interesting to see if this rumor is true. But from looking over his credentials, this might be the guy to keep WB in their winning ways. Curious.....

I remember Chuck, when he played at WB. Great player, and great guy. As an underclassman, I looked up to him, and he was a great role model. I think he would be a great coach.....he knows how to win!

Linebackers.

I agree with you, WBB. Coach Jones has some tenure at WB, and is familiar with the history and successes WB has had over the years. He also understands the challenges that lay in front of him, with regards to the field house situation, and having to deal with the politics at BISD. I think he would be a good fit.

[quote name="ozens fastest@1906" post="1157927" timestamp="1326292486"] [quote author=82 5A State Champs link=topic=94085.msg1157860#msg1157860 date=1326286818] The article said Craig would likely recommend his replacement. Any ideas as to who that might be? Sgt Rey....your thoughts? [/quote] Am I missing something b/c i didnt read anything that said he would recommend his replacement? [/quote]The very end of the article in the Beaumont Suprise, said he would recommend his replacement, but didn't want to give any info at that time.

The article said Craig would likely recommend his replacement. Any ideas as to who that might be? Sgt Rey....your thoughts?

thats really a shame. I hate to see it just sit there an "rot" like that. you would think they could find a useable resource for it. I dont want to see them tear it down. Its still a sight to see when you drive by "Astroworld".

[quote name="kf89" post="1154782" timestamp="1325783105"] JAMES BROWN EX W.B. & UT PLAYER LAMAR ASST. NOW? [/quote]Hmmm. I graduated with James. I would be interested in hearing what his plans would be if he were to apply. That would be a first for WB.....former player turned HC.

I wonder if Todd Dodge is busy right now? ;)

Any rumors as to who might apply for the WB position? I've heard a few names mentioned, but nothing confirmed.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1149649" timestamp="1324498171"] [quote author=82 5A State Champs link=topic=93384.msg1149646#msg1149646 date=1324497673] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=93384.msg1149423#msg1149423 date=1324471273] Save the crocodile tears for the locker room forum.  Very  typical to try and place the blame on Dr. Thomas.  Even in the Walker case, the connection that 'you' have been looking for between him and the defendant have not been made [b]yet[/b].  smh...  ::) [/quote]Im glad you stuck the word "yet" in there. Cause guess what, its coming! [/quote]Wasn't there a misstrial?  Wouldn't this have been brought to light?  Didn't they have MONTHS to prepare and gather this information?  Where is it?  They sure in the heck did not provide it. Maybe because there is NONE. [/quote]You dont think its over, do ya? The FBI doesnt come up with 37 trumped up charges, for no reason. It will be tried again, and eventually, somebody is gonna roll over.

For what its worth, I believe everything happens in cycles, gang. Lets take a look back at the coaches in WB's history.... [b]Alex Durley[/b] (82-84) had a record of [b]32-7-1[/b], and a State Title to his credit. [b]Leo Nolan[/b] (85) The Bruins went[b] 4-5[/b] under his watch. [b]Jerry Henschell[/b] (86-96) The Bruins had a record of [b]86-35-1[/b], and numerous playoff appearances, but never reached farther than a Quarterfinal loss to Katy in 1994. [b]Al Rabb[/b] (97-04) Talent depleted, for the most part, the Bruins could only muster a [b]25-58[/b] record under Rabb. [b]Craig Stump[/b] (05-11) Coach Stump has a [b]57-23[/b] record in his tenure at the Brook, making it to the 2nd round of the playoff every year except the '11 season. West Brook is 204-128-2 lifetime in 5A football. So, you see gang, there seems to be a pattern of up and down, up and down, in the history at WB. I may be reading too much into this, or have too much time on my hands at work, but if history repeats itself, we are in for a few down years in the near future. I hope I'm wrong and we never miss a beat, but from where I'm sitting, it dont look good.

[quote name="HubTx" post="1149658" timestamp="1324499186"] You guys know I'm an outsider, so I don't know the history of the Super, or the racism or anything else that has been mentioned here.... But I do have an opinion about a few of the issues.... I think WB is going to struggle to get an established coach to take over.... [b]First of all, on the football field this team is going to struggle over the next couple of years based on what I saw coming back[/b].... I thought at times this year Stump may have been unfairly criticized (Coach and QB) but that comes with the job....  [b]They will also struggle to find a veteran coach because of the facility situation on campus.... No field house is a big deal, regardless of who says it isn't.... [/b] The Butch is as nice as they get, but it only helps on game day....  It will have to be someone who is moving up the ranks or someone who is looking for more money.... On the SETX Sports Show on KSET AM1300 at 3:00, I'll throw a name or two out there, a couple of them have been mentioned on this thread.... I'm interested to see how it plays out.... [/quote]These are both valid points, and as much as I would like to see a reputable coach come in and take over, no coach worth a darn is going to be willing to take over this program, knowing what he's up against. Just sayin.....

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1149423" timestamp="1324471273"] Save the crocodile tears for the locker room forum.  Very  typical to try and place the blame on Dr. Thomas.  Even in the Walker case, the connection that 'you' have been looking for between him and the defendant have not been made [b]yet[/b].  smh...  ::) [/quote]Im glad you stuck the word "yet" in there. Cause guess what, its coming!

[quote name="SgtRey" post="1149541" timestamp="1324485274"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=93336.msg1149435#msg1149435 date=1324474257] Sgt. Reye only gave the political answer.  There is always 2 sides to this.  Schools on the other side of I-10?  Please.  I believe Regina Howell and Amilia were the first to get brand new facilities.  Jeolouse of the West Brook Program?  For what?  Is there a state championship banner from the last 20 years?  No.  The facilities are horrible?  They are that way because the hater electrical contractor get mad and prompted a stop work order.  Central's field  house project almost met the same faith as well.  The only thing I see is that the old WB coach make a bunch of excuses.  Knew they will not be that good for a few years.  His son will be graduating.  Blah, blah, blah.  I still say good riddance. [/quote]The political answer?...do you know me to be political?...Regina and Amelia were first....do you wanna go inside and see the guinea pigs?...go compare it to French...or try..you don't have that eye ball or experience, it's like picking small schools for you... Everything points to SUP/BISD...you wanna blame the tax payers?  If you're the top payed Superintendent in the STATE...there is little room for error...TAKE A PAY CUT, then we can listen to excuses...BUT don't protect the SUP because he's black, hold him accountable for the position he holds...I don't care if the Superintendent is from the Mexico...you feel fine knowing the guy is black and in power...I don't care what color he/she is...just do what's right with the power...you don't by your lead maintanance guy a freaking Loaded out F350 to check job site.. W.T.F (why the fuss  ;D)??  Then he goes to the club to get his drink on...etc... The SUP wasn't driving? so let's retire the guy with full benefits?  W.T F?  YES I said the other side of I-10...I also said if the shoe fits...apparently it fit you. [/quote]Again, I agree with you 100%. Thank you for telling it like it is.

[quote name="uandme08" post="1149640" timestamp="1324496334"] Let me see if I'm understanding this correctly - It's being said that Ozen holds the magic button to determine how WB's season will go? If all of the "talent" is at Ozen, how in the heck have we not made it the State Championship since our existence? Maybe had Stump been the coach at Ozen and mixed all of that in with the "talent" then we'd have a playoff banner for each year? [/quote] ;)

[quote name="SgtRey" post="1149222" timestamp="1324418627"] WB doesn't have much coming back....for the next 3 yrs...I've seen it...So, don't say there's talent there... I think someone said something about BISD not wanting WB to have a successful program(in not so many words)...so, they pushed out a Coach....SMALL EXAMPLE: A Scaffold that was sitting in Durley, that Coach Stump wanted to be used on the practice fields for filming....a request was submitted for maintenance to move the scaffold...one year and a half later, it's still there....I moved it in 15 minutes! Is it a black and white thing?  Don't know, but if the shoe fits.... however you want to perceive it.  I really could care less...WB's facilities are absolutely terrible...I do believe people's thoughts are, "that's the west end, they got money"...not the point...why wasn't WB demolished and built back in 6 months?  But we can build 3 elementary schools in 6 months on the other side of town....we just wanted a field house in 6 months...just one....yeah, I know...education is first right?...go ahead and believe that was the mentality... When it's not a problem on the other side of I-10, it's no big deal...THAT'S BISD's PROBLEM!!  sugar coat it however you want....there's still no field house...WB is a mess...ALL this could have been done over the summer...they did some BS renovation to a couple of offices and RR's...I was embarrassed to be apart of it.... The locked pointless preseason schedule....W. T . F. (why the fuss  ;D)?!!  IT'S A WASTE OF TWO GAMES!!  THAT's WHY WE HIT A CULTURE SHOCK WHEN WE SEE KATY IN WEEK 3!!  the jealousy of WB's Football program  by BISD progressively kills the program!  so...STOP transfers, lock preseason schedule until "WB looses to both schools"(evil laughs by BISD)...If it looks like crap and smells like crap...you form ur opinion...to me it is crap... ;)..just sayin... Coach Stump did a good job here, and moved at the right time...I can't blame him...good luck. Bring in the next guy...ASAP!! [/quote]Sarge, while we have had our differences and we dont always see eye to eye, i couldn't agree with you more. You hit the nail on the head 100%. People want to sit there and believe that all 3 HS's get the same treatment, but it just isn't true. WB has been the red-headed stepchild of the district since, oh, about 1997! I cant make this stuff up, people. Yeah, we got a nice stadium out of the deal, with a jacked up name, but WB is still not considered to be a team to be reckoned with in Region 3. All the examples that were listed above are valid reasons why we have been "just average" in 5A football. I have said it before, I dont believe the district, under its current way of conducting business, is set up to support a championship winning football tradition. The field house, the weight room.....these are just a few examples of why things arent working.

[quote name="smitty" post="1149505" timestamp="1324480936"] Maybe Carroll Thomas??!!  LOL!!  :D [/quote]We should be so lucky. Humble ISD wouldnt allow it! LOL!

[quote name="tupac7" post="1149397" timestamp="1324441670"] all do respect you are wrong...I was a an assistant who saw everything...I will be graduating from Lamar this spring but was allowed o coach on that staff...I like the new guy he was a figure head and did not run the program..I can't speak for is time at the brook but I know [b]he won every year up until ozen opened up..[/b][/quote]You keep saying this, but he was only Head Coach for 1 year when Ozen opened up. That was 1997, and he took WB to the quarterfinals with Chip Ambres at QB. The Bruins lost to Hastings.....I was on the sidelines! After that year, the program took a sharp decline. Hentschel saw the writing on the wall....when Ozen opened up, alot of those kids that lived in the Pear Orchard neighborhood, moved to Ozen. The Pear Orchard has always been where WB has gotten most of their talent, clear back to when it was Hebert. It most definitely had alot to do with the decline at WB. Rabb's offense was successful for many years, as long as he had the personnel to run it. When the talent dried up, that offense became inneffective. The records speak for itself during the "dark" years when Wb was the doormat of the district.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1149122" timestamp="1324408763"] [quote author=82 5A State Champs link=topic=93336.msg1149119#msg1149119 date=1324408624] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=93336.msg1149108#msg1149108 date=1324407882] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=93336.msg1149105#msg1149105 date=1324407589] Where's Sgt Rey? [/quote]Maybe the Vidor coach will apply ;) [/quote]Why, so he can wreck his career? Vidor, at this point, has better facilities, a school board and administration that more straight laced, and much better pride and community support. Stay in Vidor, Coach Matthews. ;) [/quote]What does the 'School Board' have to do with wins/losses on the football field? [/quote]Alot! First, they determine a coach's salary, for one. If you aren't willing to pay Gary Joseph/Todd Dodge money, you aren't gonna get Katy/SLC results, ie State Championships. Two, what coach worth a darn, is gonna be willing to come to 'good ole boy' BISD, and try to win with a program that doesnt have the budget of a 3A school?! The trainer, at WB, has had the same budget to buy all the supplies that he needs to keep players healthy for an entire season, that he has had for the last 10 years. Basically, he has not gotten any more money in 10 years. I know for a fact, that for the last few seasons he has had to get what was left over from Central and Ozen, when the regular season was over, just to have enough supplies to make it through the playoffs. When you look at the big picture, as a whole, BISD and WB is not a very attractive place that one would want to go. Other that the fact that WB has a state title that was won 30 years ago, there's not much of a chance that WB will get a decent coach, unless they gamble on another unknown. Just sayin....

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1149108" timestamp="1324407882"] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=93336.msg1149105#msg1149105 date=1324407589] Where's Sgt Rey? [/quote]Maybe the Vidor coach will apply ;) [/quote]Why, so he can wreck his career? Vidor, at this point, has better facilities, a school board and administration that more straight laced, and much better pride and community support. Stay in Vidor, Coach Matthews. ;)

[quote name="vp32" post="1149105" timestamp="1324407589"] Where's Sgt Rey? [/quote] ::)