BigWildcat11

[quote name="pirateguy" post="954314" timestamp="1295984883"] Poor K-ville is really done now. The end has come. [/quote]Definition of a TOOL .... Karma can be a ***** . Laugh it up now ... Will bet our search for a new coach will not be the circus yours was .... :o

Would love to see Ford and Breed get these awards ... If you don't think Ford was the best Offensive talent in SETX ... Well dont know what else he can do .... as for Breed ... ask Bridge City or West Orange Stark if he isn't one of the best, if not the best ..  Won't hold my breath ... awards will probably go to the Beaumont area players ...

[quote name="T-daddy" post="950341" timestamp="1295368344"] just wondering why he is trying so hard to leave kirbyville is it because he has no talent coming up? [/quote]You have to understand .. this has become an annual rite of passage in Kirbyville ... happens every year ... kind of get used to it though ... I have heard all the naysayers ... however, this was said in 2009 after Hazlewood, Musgrove, and Co left .... was said when Pierce Rhodes and his group graduated ... kids will come in August ready to play ... we still have talent coming up ... a bit young and raw ... but then again, so were Ford, Cucancic, Keene, Breed, etc.. in 2008, 2009 ... we'll wait and see ... keep telling ya don't pay attention to subvarsity ... smaller schools move best players up earlier ...

[quote name="Jbdfan" post="949632" timestamp="1295241881"] No doubt. I wasn't getting snippy. Yes you were in the playoffs and yes Jasper had a very poor year and wasn't in the playoffs, but do not b;ame the district for the playoff loss. Just sayin.... [/quote]wasn't blaming the loss on the district ... Coldsprings was just a beast ... have said that before ... just saying we weren't quite as sharp ... really feel if we could have maintained the level of play after WOS ... may have been different ... want you guys to do better ... is great when north Jasper county is all good

[quote name="T-daddy" post="949445" timestamp="1295219970"] boys basketball Jasper 107 kville 42  ouch!!!! just proves some from jasper's point Alvarez is a good football coach but not a good AD because all sports revolve around football... [/quote]Yeah ... ya beat a team with 1 senior starter, 1 junior starter, 1 senior reserve, and 9 sophomores ... only 2 players on this basketball were on varsity last year .... no starter from last year is playing ... so beat your chest Jasper ... you beat up the little kids ... Go ahead talk your smack about basketball, baseball, heck even track (with your 700 + students). Still have beat you in the king of sports in Texas (more times than not in last 6 years) ... Yeah that score was 63-8 ... and could have been more ...

[quote name="Jbdfan" post="949608" timestamp="1295238424"] [quote author=BigWildcat11 link=topic=78668.msg948814#msg948814 date=1295110453] [quote author=Hupernikomen link=topic=78668.msg948772#msg948772 date=1295107689] [quote author=BigWildcat11 link=topic=78668.msg948767#msg948767 date=1295106832] [quote author=Hupernikomen link=topic=78668.msg948459#msg948459 date=1295058908] All this talk about heart and discipline..just a bunch of nonsense.  Bring in a coach that the community and players believe in and they will be just fine.  Hard to argue against the credentials of the young man they have hired.  There are always people disappointed when their guy doesn't get the job.  It is called pride.  Alvarez or Valastro both would have been great hires also.  Those who chose had a hard choice to make.  It was made.  [/quote]heck, I am glad Morgan got hired .... probably will be a great hire for Jasper ... I think he will turn around your program ... IF the parents and fans give him a change and don't get thier tights in a wad the first time little Jimmy is called on the carpet for any mistake or unsportmanship, ....  But to call heart, desire and discipline a bunch of nonsense speaks volumes about your great Jasper football program ... evidence #1 ... I give you 2-8 ... evidence #2 ... being beat by Diboll, Orangefield, Center, Kirbyville and whoever else beat ya ... enough said ...  [/quote] What is nonsense is to assume Jasper's kids don't have heart and discipline.  Bring in the right motivator and these kids will compete and beat those they should beat.  There is no shame in losing to Kirbyville these days but I agree we shouldn't lose to those others. [/quote]If you have read any post I have I have written before you would see this not as a shot at the kids ... goes to the coaches you have had ... I have lived in this area all my life ... I have friends whose children played for winning Jasper teams (state runner up team) ... I know Jasper has more, and better, athletes ... When you played Kirbyville last year, you could see the difference in the players (not talking the stars here ... Ford, Cucancic, Keene, Breed, Tyler, Jones, etc... were better). But the whole team had better players as a whole .. The reason you got beat that night was because of desire to win and discipline of the whole Kirbyville team .... Kirbyville players did thier jobs, did not beat their chest (too much), were held accountable for mistakes ... All I am saying is that by the very size of your school compared to the others and the availability of more athletes you SHOULD win these games ... you don't because of discipline and a burning desire to win (not just to have good statistics and look real good on the field) ... this is taught by the right coach ... you have just hired him ... I want Jasper to be good ... I want the 44-43 last second win against a strong Jasper team ... It's good for both schools ... Heck ... I think the overall problem for Kirbyville in the playoffs was the weakness of the district (we were firing on all cylinders after a tough predistrict ... then district ... oh well ... Carthage won state because they Survived their district ... YOU being better is good for YOU, good for US, Good for eveerybody ... just trying to be a good neighbor ....  ;D ;D [/quote] You didn't get beat in the playoffs because of a weak district. That is a weak excuse. If you are that good and the coach is that good and you were the better team that day, you should have won regardless of your district, period.  [/quote] Hey ... Just trying to be nice ... wanna get snippy ... at least we were in the playoffs ...

[quote name="BigWildcat11" post="949414" timestamp="1295215417"] [quote author=BigWildcat11 link=topic=77679.msg949409#msg949409 date=1295215346] [quote author=jeffcoat link=topic=77679.msg949336#msg949336 date=1295205953] [quote author=hitman009 link=topic=77679.msg949312#msg949312 date=1295203060] Wow... nothing against Morgan, i am sure he is a fine coach, but i still can not believe they did not take Jack.....Again!!! second time they turned him down.... they might live to regret this again... If I was Alverez, I would run up the score as high as I could to prove a point.... Go Cats!!! put another beatdown on them just like the last 6 years under Alverez.... [/quote]    Those days are over my friend. Be careful what you wish for. I watched what Carthage did to to my Bulldogs for two years in 18aaa. The Kirbyville beatdowns of past years are nothing compared to what Carthage could have done to us but chose not to. The beatdown you speak about may soon be reversed.   [/quote]Gonna take time ... see that's the problem with Jasper ... feel all they need is change ... the sad thing is ... the score last year could have been worse ... the dogs (no pun intended) were called off ... may be a closer game this year ... you may win .... certainly not gonna be a reverse of this year [/quote] And Jasper is NO Carthage ... my friend ... [/quote] Plus the fact that the so called JV powerhouse you had beat a jv team with mostly freshmen and a few sophomores thrown in ...

[quote name="BigWildcat11" post="949409" timestamp="1295215346"] [quote author=jeffcoat link=topic=77679.msg949336#msg949336 date=1295205953] [quote author=hitman009 link=topic=77679.msg949312#msg949312 date=1295203060] Wow... nothing against Morgan, i am sure he is a fine coach, but i still can not believe they did not take Jack.....Again!!! second time they turned him down.... they might live to regret this again... If I was Alverez, I would run up the score as high as I could to prove a point.... Go Cats!!! put another beatdown on them just like the last 6 years under Alverez.... [/quote]    Those days are over my friend. Be careful what you wish for. I watched what Carthage did to to my Bulldogs for two years in 18aaa. The Kirbyville beatdowns of past years are nothing compared to what Carthage could have done to us but chose not to. The beatdown you speak about may soon be reversed.   [/quote]Gonna take time ... see that's the problem with Jasper ... feel all they need is change ... the sad thing is ... the score last year could have been worse ... the dogs (no pun intended) were called off ... may be a closer game this year ... you may win .... certainly not gonna be a reverse of this year [/quote] And Jasper is NO Carthage ... my friend ...

[quote name="jeffcoat" post="949336" timestamp="1295205953"] [quote author=hitman009 link=topic=77679.msg949312#msg949312 date=1295203060] Wow... nothing against Morgan, i am sure he is a fine coach, but i still can not believe they did not take Jack.....Again!!! second time they turned him down.... they might live to regret this again... If I was Alverez, I would run up the score as high as I could to prove a point.... Go Cats!!! put another beatdown on them just like the last 6 years under Alverez.... [/quote]    Those days are over my friend. Be careful what you wish for. I watched what Carthage did to to my Bulldogs for two years in 18aaa. The Kirbyville beatdowns of past years are nothing compared to what Carthage could have done to us but chose not to. The beatdown you speak about may soon be reversed.   [/quote]Gonna take time ... see that's the problem with Jasper ... feel all they need is change ... the sad thing is ... the score last year could have been worse ... the dogs (no pun intended) were called off ... may be a closer game this year ... you may win .... certainly not gonna be a reverse of this year

[quote name="Hupernikomen" post="948772" timestamp="1295107689"] [quote author=BigWildcat11 link=topic=78668.msg948767#msg948767 date=1295106832] [quote author=Hupernikomen link=topic=78668.msg948459#msg948459 date=1295058908] All this talk about heart and discipline..just a bunch of nonsense.  Bring in a coach that the community and players believe in and they will be just fine.  Hard to argue against the credentials of the young man they have hired.  There are always people disappointed when their guy doesn't get the job.  It is called pride.  Alvarez or Valastro both would have been great hires also.  Those who chose had a hard choice to make.  It was made.  [/quote]heck, I am glad Morgan got hired .... probably will be a great hire for Jasper ... I think he will turn around your program ... IF the parents and fans give him a change and don't get thier tights in a wad the first time little Jimmy is called on the carpet for any mistake or unsportmanship, ....  But to call heart, desire and discipline a bunch of nonsense speaks volumes about your great Jasper football program ... evidence #1 ... I give you 2-8 ... evidence #2 ... being beat by Diboll, Orangefield, Center, Kirbyville and whoever else beat ya ... enough said ...  [/quote] What is nonsense is to assume Jasper's kids don't have heart and discipline.  Bring in the right motivator and these kids will compete and beat those they should beat.  There is no shame in losing to Kirbyville these days but I agree we shouldn't lose to those others. [/quote]If you have read any post I have I have written before you would see this not as a shot at the kids ... goes to the coaches you have had ... I have lived in this area all my life ... I have friends whose children played for winning Jasper teams (state runner up team) ... I know Jasper has more, and better, athletes ... When you played Kirbyville last year, you could see the difference in the players (not talking the stars here ... Ford, Cucancic, Keene, Breed, Tyler, Jones, etc... were better). But the whole team had better players as a whole .. The reason you got beat that night was because of desire to win and discipline of the whole Kirbyville team .... Kirbyville players did thier jobs, did not beat their chest (too much), were held accountable for mistakes ... All I am saying is that by the very size of your school compared to the others and the availability of more athletes you SHOULD win these games ... you don't because of discipline and a burning desire to win (not just to have good statistics and look real good on the field) ... this is taught by the right coach ... you have just hired him ... I want Jasper to be good ... I want the 44-43 last second win against a strong Jasper team ... It's good for both schools ... Heck ... I think the overall problem for Kirbyville in the playoffs was the weakness of the district (we were firing on all cylinders after a tough predistrict ... then district ... oh well ... Carthage won state because they Survived their district ... YOU being better is good for YOU, good for US, Good for eveerybody ... just trying to be a good neighbor ....  ;D ;D

[quote name="Hupernikomen" post="948459" timestamp="1295058908"] All this talk about heart and discipline..just a bunch of nonsense.  Bring in a coach that the community and players believe in and they will be just fine.  Hard to argue against the credentials of the young man they have hired.  There are always people disappointed when their guy doesn't get the job.  It is called pride.  Alvarez or Valastro both would have been great hires also.  Those who chose had a hard choice to make.  It was made.  [/quote]Hell, I am glad Morgan got hired .... probably will be a great hire for Jasper ... I think he will turn around your program ... IF the parents and fans give him a change and don't get thier tights in a wad the first time little Jimmy is called on the carpet for any mistake or unsportmanship, ....  But to call heart, desire and discipline a bunch of nonsense speaks volumes about your great Jasper football program ... evidence #1 ... I give you 2-8 ... evidence #2 ... being beat by Diboll, Orangefield, Center, Kirbyville and whoever else beat ya ... enough said ... 

[quote name="kicker" post="945423" timestamp="1294677416"] I posted this on another topic, but maybe this poll is the best way to decide.... Just an idea, but i was going to try and do a kicking camp this summer. I am thinking about getting a few kickers to help me. kickers with experience ie. College, NFL, etc. Dont really want to charge for it except maybe a registration fee that will pay for the shirts that will be given out. The reason I am posting this, is to see if there is intrest in this locally. I would like your feedback, maybe ideas. Im not speaking for all schools in SETX, but im tired of seeing all these Austin area and Dallas area kickers getting all the awards/scholarships. We have plenty of talent here in SETX, just need specialized coaching. I would like to teach mechanics, mental toughness, and strenghth and conditioning, all for the kicking game only. The positions that I would offer at the camp would be placekicking, punting, snapping, and holding. kicking fieldgoals are a three headed monster. you have to have a good snapper, a holder that can adjust, and a kicker with the ability to improvise. All three have to work like a well oilled machine. Same for punting, you need a good snapper, great protection, and a punter that can alter his steps if he has to. These are the subjects I would like to have focused on. I have resourses to get the right coaches and instructors, but would also like volunteers to help. Like I said earlier, I would like yalls feedback on this and see if there would be enough intrest. Thanks [/quote] Not a joke ... got a son whose a heck of a soccer player, but we dont have a soccer program at school ... has never kicked a football, but was playing around with friends and kicked it in from about the 30 ... would be interested in sending him to your camp

[quote name="jdawg83" post="948366" timestamp="1295054075"] Orangefield, Dibol, Center, Kirbyville, Huntington, 5 teams we should never loose too we lost to all five this year lets go get em coach! [/quote]You lost to better teams with better coaches and Discipline .... can have all the talent in the world .. no heart, no discpline, no wins ... Best example plays for Patriots ... would you take a less athletically talented Tom Brady or an out of this world athlete like any other recent 1st round draft pick QB ... whose at home, whose playing this weekend ... difference is heart and discipline ... Jasper will continue to lose until it finds the heart and discpline to win ... dont just expect to be any of those teams next year.

[quote name="j_dog" post="948305" timestamp="1295049494"] [quote author=rykerx144 link=topic=78668.msg948297#msg948297 date=1295048973] I got a feeling Coach Alvarez, Coach Val, and Coach Barbay are going to be singing "unanswered prayers" once this is all over.    ;D ;D [/quote] or vice versa if he develops a "Carthage like" powerhouse and they have to play Jasper ...   ;D  Jasper has the talent; we will soon see if the coach has the talent.  I suspect that he will. [/quote]I just love the way Jasper automatically thinks .... gee new coach .... break out the champagne ... measure for the rings .... a program takes time ... Good luck Jasper ... got a ways to go .... especially with all that Talent ya got ... don't judge subvarsity scores or games as a gauge of future success ... most of the smaller school take all the talent and load the varsity ... that way the smaller schools (Center, Diboll, Kirbyville) have younger players contributing significantly on varsity for sometimes 3 or 4 years ... Good Luck you got a great coach ... let him build ... took Alvarez a while to install discipline and winning (couple of years).

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="946907" timestamp="1294861511"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=78635.msg946787#msg946787 date=1294851203] [quote author=no-look link=topic=78635.msg946782#msg946782 date=1294850952] [quote author=meadowlark link=topic=78635.msg946715#msg946715 date=1294846556] Agree that things are looking up for Central...Kirbyville started 3 sophs...looked like a JV game out there. Diboll and Center are very close to even....home team usually wins in those. [/quote]Whats up with Kirbyville? They have to have some athletes. Do they play football only? [/quote]All the seniors who play basketball for years are sitting this year out ... Kirbyville has one senior starter (good shooter), one senior reserve, on junior starter, rest is sophomores Yes. Sadly, that is all that is emphasized at Kirbyville. [/quote]I'm surpised at this.  They hired Brewster as Assistant Superintendent (?) recently.  He was the basketball coach at Buna, when they had a great rivalry with Kountze and he coached at Chapel Hill, where he took 1 or 2 teams to the State Tournament. And they have that incredible gym!  You would think that the focus would change at Kirbyville. [/quote]

[quote name="vhs" post="944629" timestamp="1294510390"] [quote author=BigWildcat11 link=topic=77679.msg944391#msg944391 date=1294459295] My son said that coach Alvarez never left the school during the day and he also said that coach Alvarez has shown no signs of leaving [/quote] Just curious, was this a school day... If so, did your son hang out in the field house all day? or did he go to class [/quote]vhs ... Don't know you ... seem like a jack hole though .... my kid was just stating what he saw .... by the way, goes to every class, is an honor student in honor classes .... and a pretty damn good athlete whom Jasper will be seeing ... If jasper gets Alvarez, so be it ... don't talk down about a kid

My son said that coach Alvarez never left the school during the day and he also said that coach Alvarez has shown no signs of leaving

[quote name="T-daddy" post="940785" timestamp="1293930540"] alvarez will not be a good fit for jasper that being said i think he is a great coach.  the off cord from carthage would be better because he comes from a school more similar to jasper. Kirbyville has one good program and that is football.  Jasper's most sucessful program is baseball and that in it self would drive alvarez crazy and remember the new hc will be the ad.  Carthage has been sucessful in both baseball and football. [/quote]Been sitting here reading and need to address some of these issues ... Several things I would like to address ... First of all, IF you get Alvarez .... then congrats ... the big boys would have spent the money ... Kirbyville can't compete in this area ... couldn't even try ... we do the best with what we have got ... Great place to live, but does not have the resources to Secondly, I love how Jasper folks think that just getting a great coach automatically means wins ... generally it does ...  but great coaching has always had, and always will have, the main component of discipline ... discipline takes time ... this was the reason Jasper lost last year ... could see the lack of discipline during the game ... you guys have more kids to choose from ... bigger school, more kids ... have always had better athletes ... Sure, Kirbyville has some athletes to meet your top three or four ... but the difference the last several years has been discipline ... this is where our other players, who may not be as talented, can outplay yours .... Alvarez has laid this foundation and the kids have been under this system for a while ... Remember that Jasper still won for a while after Coach Wolcoviak (probably misspelled this) ... this was because the players were in his system and knew what to do to prepare ... this takes time to teach ... so don't think you can just pencil in wins over Kirbyville, Center, Diboll, etc... Third, If you knew anything about Kirbyville you would know that Kirbyville has tried to get great coaches for all sports .... Baseball coach won a state championship at Colmesniel ... Girl's basketball coach won a championship a Kountze, I believe .... Volleyball teams have always been good and coached well ... Tennis coaches are good and have won multiple district championships and have advanced to state ... Track coaches have won champiohships with other teams (newest track coach was at WOS last year and coached the state champ relay team) ... Heck, last year we even hired a basketball coach from Silsbee, but he left for bigger school and because of football we always have gotten of to a slow start at Basketball ... So go ahead and walk around like the big strutting DOG ... will see down the road what happens .... Lastly, If ya were to get Alvarez, (we shall see), then maybe the next in line, would look a little south and see a great school, with passion, great kids, and great, loyal fans ... may be cool to see a Barbay patrolling the sidelines at Kirbyville, or a true champion Bulldog there either ... If Alvarez stays, let the games begin

What rumors ya talking about ....

[quote name="bigdog90" post="937386" timestamp="1293022514"] kville-kats what was your jv record? 8th grade and 7th grade records? and its not talent why hes going its money money money he want be here long.if he gets it hope he dont like in one of my post i said hes looking at the next level.thats why i said i didnt want jack i want someone who wants to stay. and build a good program thats why i would like to see larry upshaw,or one of the barbay brothers get it.and bigwildcat11 im not excited im very excited about the next 3 to 4 years cause we have some very talented kids coming up.and i hope you have some good kids coming up to play cause what i seen on the jv and 8th grade games this year that i watched its just not there and we had 5 freshman on our varsity.the freshman beat the kirbyville jv bad 56 to 24 and you gonna tell me you have talent COME ON MAN. [/quote]Didn't want to get into a pissing contest with ya ... If we go on talent alone, Kirbyville should never beat Jasper....I would lose the pissing contest ... Jasper has, and always will, have better athletes ...I have friends whose children have played for Jasper ... story is always the same .... The difference is desire, discipline, and coaching ... How do you explain us beating a team with Sean Weatherspoon on it (he was only a junior, but still...believe that was the year you played Gilmer in the best game EVER)...Last year when we won .... you could see better athletes on the Jasper team ... It was apparent ... The difference was that Kirbyville was disciplined and efficient ... did thier roles ... played hard every play ... that's what ya need ... and if Alvarez comes to ya ... you are right ... for the money ... we can't compete with that, couldn't even try ... By the way, don't look too hard at JV and 8th grade scores for an indication of varsity scores ... If I remember correctly, the Jasper team beat the Kirbyville boys, that were seniors, when the were in Junior High and on JV, I think ... we usually lose on these levels ... learning how to play .... didn't help much Jasper much this year ... just saying ....  Just like with boys playing ... gotta do the best with what ya got ...  :) ;)

[quote name="j_dog" post="937309" timestamp="1292993182"] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=77874.msg937308#msg937308 date=1292993072] Looks like a beat down. [/quote] yes, but it also looks much like the 2010 football score, just reversed...   ;) [/quote]YEP .. you guys are a lot better playing with the round balls ... just to let ya know ... beat a team with only two seniors .. two juniors .. mostly sophomores ... great team for Jasper though .... you guys were BEAST tonight ... ;)

[quote name="BigWildcat11" post="937323" timestamp="1292994211"] ? [/quote]Seen this on Smoaky.com ... check on enrollment ... 960 rumor is pretty close ... first thought was .. HOLY C***.

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[quote name="bigdog90" post="937256" timestamp="1292985220"] i agree 100% j dog but what im hearing i want some one that wants to stay and i believe jack is another stepping stone think he wants to move up to the next level.chubrub kirbyville dont have nothing coming up our freshman team beat there jv pretty bad and i dont no what else they have but what i hear not much.thats why jack wants to leave. [/quote]Before ya get all excited about your freshman team beating a jv ... most of the better sophomore and junior players were already on varsity ... the team you beat had 17 players (with at least three of them playing in thier first game since 8th grade due to injuries, paying other sports ... Kirbyville has a heck of a freshman team ... with two good running backs .... heck of an 8th grade team ... with a good running and throwing QB ... Don't count your eggs before ya have them ... As for Alvarez leaving ... this rumor happens every year ... Great man, great coach ... has done wonders for our program .. returned it from the abyss ... he has laid a solid frame for Kirbyville ...

[quote name="BaseBow" post="935630" timestamp="1292681385"] [quote author=BigWildcat11 link=topic=77380.msg934869#msg934869 date=1292612712] [quote author=alice link=topic=77380.msg934644#msg934644 date=1292592258] YEAH YEAH YEAH... You are 3a Ec is 2a facts don't change even if you wish or dream or whine..... [/quote]no whining just facts ....  :o heck we didn't whine ... just played bigger teams to get better .... and when we did lose ... gave the props to the only team to beat us ... who by the way is playing in Dallas today ... In 2012, when we move back down to 2A and are placed in your district, I will take special pleasure in our team beating EC ... especially with posers such as yourself ..... [/quote]Man is this a world record on neg- karma for a freshman :D [/quote]Sometimes ya just gotta shut up the posers ..... ;D ;D ;D