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[quote name="jayhawk" post="851973" timestamp="1284993688"] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=73111.msg851850#msg851850 date=1284961853] [quote author=BL33DPURPLE link=topic=73111.msg851714#msg851714 date=1284945289] Dayton wont lose another game this season! [/quote] Easy now...  I don't think i'd be so sure about that.  You're saying an 0-3 team, will go 13-0 from here on out.  Focus on getting the first win before you start calling something like that.  That's like the "PNG 10-0?" thread!  You see how that's going for the Indians... [/quote]We could get blind sided by Waller - Right ! [/quote] We should be able to actually see how tough Dayton's schedule was by the results in this game. My bet is, they do not fumble as much this game. I do not really see a blowout happening here but Dayton may need the defense to score in this one or get them good field postion throughout. If they play BH's schedule they would probably be 3-0. Just a fact and people would be talking about how great Dayton is. At least BH fans do not have to listen to this before this game.

[quote name="BigDog007" post="851984" timestamp="1284994332"] Philippians 4:8 Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellant or praiseworthy-- THINK ABOUT SUCH THINGS. My thought and prayers are with the family, friends and team mates of Reggie. I would hope and pray that all local teams would bear #12 on their jersey or helmets for the remainder of the season to show respect for a young man who had dedicated his life to the sports, class mates and school. I would also hope before each game played this friday night that a moment of silence and prayer be asked for his family and the flags at all stadiums be flown half mast in respect for the loss of Reggie. [/quote] Well said!

[quote name="tnt_mom" post="851909" timestamp="1284989268"] [quote author=BringinTheHeat link=topic=72920.msg851887#msg851887 date=1284987572] [quote author=tnt_mom link=topic=72920.msg851866#msg851866 date=1284982654] [quote author=Tyrone_Biggums link=topic=72920.msg849249#msg849249 date=1284747034] I wonder who would win in a fight, Smoking Baby or bhfan?  BTW, if anyone has forgotten, THE HILL IS FOR REAL. [/quote] How could we forget THE HILL IS FOR REAL. This thread has gone on for 14 pages.  Maybe BH should make that their slogan for all their athletics this year and put it on all their shirts.  Then we would be sure and not forget. BTW-Funny how everyone said BH academics is so superior but we moved from BH this year.  My daughter was working on her Dual Credit English paper and made the comment "BH did nothing to get me ready for College classes. What a waist."  BH needs to get off their high horse and come down to reality but it will never happen.    [/quote] Funny, you used to be for BH, but now that you moved, it is scum. Glad you left! [/quote] At first I was "for BH" but after a while the high and mighty act got old.  They are nothing more than average at most sports.  Never seem to go much further than 2nd round of play-offs if they make t that far. That is except for volleyball and girls basketball.   Other than that just average.    [/quote] Not a big BH fan, but they usually have good teams  because they are well coached. They may not like this statement, but they take average kids with a few good athletes and teach them better football than most of the teams I see. This raises expectations, as it should, for them to play well come playoff time but they always meet superior teams there. Cannot dispute that they run an excellent athletic program for what they have. Fans should be happy with what they see every year because most programs do not see coaching and teaching of fundamentals that they do. I agree the fans seem to exhibit a superiority complex over most people they play and this does get old. Many are from Baytown and forget where they came from imo. They should improve every year with their numbers going up so they can win district in football in the next few years or when Stewart retires, LOL. My advice, have fun but get off of the high and mighty act, it places an unecessary target on your back. Let your teams speak for you. They will be fine.

Would like to send our condolences from GCM and Baytown. I saw Reggie play in the Dayton scrimmage and have seen film on him. He was a special athlete and from what is said about him, a very special individual. I am  sure he will be missed. We will keep the family and community in our prayers.

[quote name="82 5A State Champs" post="848311" timestamp="1284601642"] [quote author=cbear4 link=topic=72886.msg848303#msg848303 date=1284601390] I would like to see West Brook do well but I am picking Katy by at least 2 touchdowns. [b]They are always solid at every position.[/b] Not too many mistakes for teams to take advantage of. [/quote]Not only are they solid at every position, they win alot of their games by sheer numbers. THey have as many as 3 backups at every position. And they are constantly rotating in fresh players throughout the game. So when your offense or defense starts to wear down late in the game, Katy is still fresh. This is why, IMO, Katy is such a second half team. THis is the time of the game when they do the most damage. [/quote] I had a friend of mine that coached at Northshore a few years ago and they played katy in a playoff game. Norhtshore was handing it to them early and Katy never did panic. They made some adjustments at halftime and came out and whipped their tail in the 2nd half. They played a lot smarter and made few mistakes. I am sure they stay fresh on the D-line the whole game. They are the modern Odessa Permian.

I would like to see West Brook do well but I am picking Katy by at least 2 touchdowns. They are always solid at every position. Not too many mistakes for teams to take advantage of.

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="847525" timestamp="1284497608"] [quote author=GCMPats link=topic=72988.msg847517#msg847517 date=1284497423] Thanks Brook. That's just what I wanted to hear.  Played on the Sterling team that tied Brook in the Dome that year. Sure wish we would of had OT back then. [/quote] You sure that wasn't the WO-S team in '85 that y'all tied? [/quote] This was the 85' Sterling team that tied, i believe the #3 state ranked WOS team. 1 minute left and WOS tied on Penetrations and Sterling ahead on first downs, WOS drove about 70 yards in a minute to win the game on penetrations. WOS had around 200 or so yards in the first half and under 200 going into that last drive. Sterling had one heck of a defense that year and made major adjustments to shut WOS down in the 2nd half. WOS had great athletes at every position it seemed. Sterling's Defensive Coordinaor was Jerry Stewart, current head coach at Dayton.

You may want to take a chill pill. Does not help to rip everyone making decisions, even if you are right. Just stresses you out.

I read Jimmy Johnson's book, "Turning the Thing Around" years ago and he mentioned that when he had a kid prone to fumbling he never told him " do not fumble" before going out on the field. He would say " hold on to the ball". He was a Psychology major in college and his philosophy was always positive reinforcement. Sometimes when you fumble you worry to much about it was his philosophy I gathered. Anyway just a thought.

[quote author=SFAJACK02 link=topic=728 42.msg844547#msg844547 date=1284224319] Any thoughts!! If you kid is not good he SHOULD be benched no questions. Let the coaches coach!!! [/quote] Amen!

The coaches cannot go out and play for them. The kids are obviously on their heels and not the aggressors. They need some leadership and some fire in their bellies, play like they have nothing to lose. It is amazing how a few positive things can wear off on a team.

[quote name="GCMPats" post="844431" timestamp="1284213489"] This has nothing to do with coaching and everything to do with attitude. The PRESEASON did not go as planned. SO WHAT! This is not a bad football team. I don't care what the record or the scores indicate. If people expect ALL the 19-4a teams with 2 or more losses to QUIT now, then we may not have 4 teams in the playoffs. Rest up! Regroup! Stop pointing fingers! Let the coaching critics stay on the Hill. [/quote] Right! Would like some 300# transfers though. Maybe from Manvel.

[quote name="raideroldtimer" post="842990" timestamp="1284133480"] [quote author=GCMPats link=topic=72708.msg842981#msg842981 date=1284132317] [quote author=cbear4 link=topic=72708.msg842977#msg842977 date=1284131881] I would like to see GCM abandon this pistol formation and go to a more spread type offense. This allows a second or more time for the QB to throw the ball and not have to do the short two or three step side roll out. It still allows a zone read on the run and you can even have a two back set. The defense it just crashing the QB and RB very play and there is really not a passing game that the defense needs to defend. The receivers do not run any crossing patterns that I can see. It is almost all vertical routes where they all run 8 to 15 yards down field and turn around like a curl. They will run some short out routes but nothing over the middle. I would love to defend this. I know that the line is also struggling but I am hoping they can work with what they have in some way to generate an offense. There are a few athletes at receiver that could help get into some open space if allowed to run. I think the QB can get them the ball saving a little time. I am not the coach so it is just an opinion. These kids need to be challenged and motivated and encouraged that quiting is not an option. There is really no Senior leadership that you would expect someone to step up. The coach can encourage someone with this ability to step up and motivate this team as they are dead. Get excited to play the game and have fun. [/quote] I thought they might. [Hidden Content] [/quote] I don't know, maybe I'm reading more into it than I should, but I got the distinct impression from this article that the coach isn't exuding a lot of confidence himself. [/quote] I think there were a lot of questions coming in to this season that they were hoping would get answered by now. I am not going to blame the coaching because it can just make matters worse and there are enough issues with this team. The offense has to know which direction they are going. You do not have a chance if you can line up and run right over the line at will. If it takes taking some D-linemen and moving them over, then do it. We already have some injuries and it could be worse. I would venture to say that the JV line may be bigger than the Varsity line. Move them up and teach them the game as it will not be worse than now. I am not saying the kids are not trying, it is just not working. I think the Soph. QB moved up can play several postions if they elect to not play him at QB the whole game. He looks like he could help out at receiver or slot receiver now. Give them a chance and we should have the Junior QB back for district and from what I saw last night he throws the ball better and  is the better leader on this team after seeing the Sophs have some trouble. The RB postion is fine and even the backup should be on the field somewhere. The best athletes need to be on the field on both sides of the ball. Heck, play the RBs and QBs on both sides, Dayton does it and they are not worried about injuries.

I would like to see GCM abandon this pistol formation and go to a more spread type offense. This allows a second or more time for the QB to throw the ball and not have to do the short two or three step side roll out. It still allows a zone read on the run and you can even have a two back set. The defense it just crashing the QB and RB very play and there is really not a passing game that the defense needs to defend. The receivers do not run any crossing patterns that I can see. It is almost all vertical routes where they all run 8 to 15 yards down field and turn around like a curl. They will run some short out routes but nothing over the middle. I would love to defend this. I know that the line is also struggling but I am hoping they can work with what they have in some way to generate an offense. There are a few athletes at receiver that could help get into some open space if allowed to run. I think the QB can get them the ball saving a little time. I am not the coach so it is just an opinion. These kids need to be challenged and motivated and encouraged that quiting is not an option. There is really no Senior leadership that you would expect someone to step up. The coach can encourage someone with this ability to step up and motivate this team as they are dead. Get excited to play the game and have fun.

PNG by a bunch.... They are just getting started.

Will the defense get off of the bus this week? Does the offense ride a separate bus and the defensive bus not show up last week? LOL! The more you guys score, the better I feel about GCM losing to you guys. Good luck!

[quote name="raideroldtimer" post="841166" timestamp="1283877041"] [quote author=cbear4 link=topic=72534.msg841154#msg841154 date=1283875920] You can pass the ball on Nederland. GCM must have dropped 6 or 7 passes and 3 or 4 in open space. Game should have been a lot closer. Keep the defense off of the field. If BH has a gamebreaker at RB, be patient and you may get a big play against them. No penalties or bad snaps and you will stay in this game. GCM has not figured this out yet. Nederland has a good O-Line and will get some yardage but if you stop the run and make them throw in third and long you will be succesfull. QB had problems throwing the ball and has limited varsity exp. I believe Nederland probably had almost 2-1 time of posession against GCM which kept our offense off of the field. Go get your first win... [/quote] Agreed. GCM could actually be a great passing team if their receivers would learn to catch the ball, the QB has the arm for it. I remember during our scrimmage with them one receiver constantly trying to catch the ball with one hand, that looks good on highlight reels but ain't worth a darn for the most part. [/quote] Nederland is a few steps of maturity ahead of GCM and it showed last week. They helped a very inexperienced QB out with a successful running game. BH may not be ready yet but believe me they are always well prepared. I hope it is enough to grab a win for 19-4a. We are sitting on goose eggs. I have not seen BH so I cannot really predict a winner. With an average passing game and the running back that you guys (Lumberton) did not get to see because of injury, GCM could move the ball more consistently. I am usually hard on QB's but GCM's is tough and leads very well and should get better at making decisions. I wonder if he will play this week. I believe you guys should play Nederland very well. Your physical and have enough of a running game and passing game to make the playoffs in that very tough district. Good luck.

You can pass the ball on Nederland. GCM must have dropped 6 or 7 passes and 3 or 4 in open space. Game should have been a lot closer. Keep the defense off of the field. If BH has a gamebreaker at RB, be patient and you may get a big play against them. No penalties or bad snaps and you will stay in this game. GCM has not figured this out yet. Nederland has a good O-Line and will get some yardage but if you stop the run and make them throw in third and long you will be succesfull. QB had problems throwing the ball and has limited varsity exp. I believe Nederland probably had almost 2-1 time of posession against GCM which kept our offense off of the field. Go get your first win...

[quote name="TheRef" post="841107" timestamp="1283871885"] If you think you can do better, we are in need of officials in South East Texas. Come join the chapter, pay your dues, pay for your uniforms, pay for your clinics and training. Go call a game where half the people get in for free. Because we get paid a percent of gate reciepts. So the money we make gets put right back into it for uniforms, dues, insurance, training. So if you basically have time to call High School football for free by the time you pay for everything and you think you have got what it takes, come on down on Monday nights and join the chapter. As for you folks that have coaches that do not use the South East Texas Chapter. Thank your coach next time you see him for wasteing your tax dollars paying those refs from outside the area to come call your games. 99% of the time if you think about it, your coach leaves the area to find refs after a losing season and he is using us as his excuse for losing. But just think back to that losing season, and then look at the current season, are the refs really different? No they are not, I had the opportunity to come and watch some of your scrimmages using the other refs and it wasn't pretty at all! Good luck to you this season Hope everything works out! [/quote] Thanks for the info... It would be hypocritical for me to mention the referees weight since I have the figure of a basketball. May referring a game would do me some good..

[quote name="panamamyers" post="841095" timestamp="1283870246"] Lee has absolutely zero discipline.  No doubt. I told my wife at the game Friday that it looked like they were just out for their first day of playing football...ever. I do remember the make up of that 86 team pretty well...as well as can be expected for a 10 year old at the time. Lee no longer has the depth of talent to compete with North Shore and Eisenhower and those guys. Lee should, as you point out, have the talent to compete in 19-4A. Maybe a move to a sophomore qb will turn things around for them one more time. [/quote] I am getting off track here but when you here people talk about RB's letting a play develop offensively, the same can be said defensively. The kids have to be patient and read and remember what they are hopefully taught in practice. Do not just run after the ball or where you think the ball is going. Stay at home and read.. No patience to read the play, they all want to make the play, which is selfish. A D-lineman's #1 responsibility is to keep the OL off of the LBs so they can make plays. Do not run around blocks allowing OL to get to the LBs and open up running lanes in the process. I would rather have a patient, average and disciplined DE or OLB than a athletic OLB that overruns pl1ays constantly. I get pissed watching the players ignore what they are taught. Stay at home and do your job or stay on the bench. Lol

Panama, Did you know one of the keys to that years Lee's team success was that they made an unpopular decision to move, at the time, a future NFL player from QB back to safety? Started a sophomore QB the rest of the way. That team had two future NFL players on it. One was the second pick in the draft and I know you know who I am reffering to since I am aware you know Lee's history very well. My point is that good teams and good coaches can take a team and tweak them during the season or make big changes that they see will benefit the team. This move alone did not change their season but was a stepping stone that gave them confidence to play with anyone. Lee has almost always had this swagger about them and this comes from their ability to prepare their kids well. I hated Lee but respected them in every way because you can see the confidence they play with. Hopefully, for you they can regain this advantage so you can enjoy their season. All of the current 19-4A teams are, or should be, looking to gain this sort of advantage that gives them confidence to turn their bad performances around. I can say this as I support GCM for personal reasons, if they could get any discipline on the defensive side of the ball and every player will handle their responsibility on each play and help out second, then they will be successful this year. The offense will eventually come around but the defense needs to carry this team now. They have the ability to win most games this way. Each position has to be taught a role ans never waiver from that role. I imagine the other teams in 19-4A have the same issues and the first teams to rectify their issues and play as a team will be in that top 4. I have to believe that Lee could be there as well. They reallydo not have any less talent than almost any of the 19-4a teams. I saw their Spring game and one scrimmage. They have the ability to make the top 4 with the talent I saw. They lack to discipline I mentioned before. BH, in my opinion, does not have the talent at many positions that someof the other schools have, but has always played with discipline. They are struggling because of a new system but will catch on. They are smart players who realize they do not have to beat you with athleticism. No offfense BH, but it is an opinion and you do have some athletes just not across the board and nobody really likes to play you because of what I just mentioned.

[quote name="panamamyers" post="840827" timestamp="1283824315"] Elkins is an average to above average team. I'll let you decide.  You're the one that was there. They will get hammered by a team like Hightower. I was giving Dayton props for staying with Elkins, because I was trying to reiterate my earlier point about 5A being tougher than 4A.  An average to above average 5A team like Elkins will give problems to a 4A team like Dayton or Crosby or Montgomery or PNG or anyone this side of LT. The fact that Dayton hung in there shows that Dayton is pretty good, but I don't know if I would want to predict the outcome of the district based on a bunch of teams that have all lost their games. [/quote] Tell this to Lake Travis! Not always the case. Stewart purposely scheduled some tough opponents early to prepare his team for not only district but for playoffs. I have seen them in two scrimmages and they are as advertised. They are not good because they have great players. They are one of the most disciplined and well coached teams around and create good athletes I.to good players. 5a vs 4a is always going to favor 5a for obvious reasons. You can't just give them the title but you can predict based on what you see at this point. I absolutely cannot say who the other three teams will be in the playoffs because of their play to date but Crosby should be there. The district looks weak to this point so it should be a battle that may be fun to watch regardless of current records. I remember years ago Lee getting blown out by a 5a LaMarque team 63-0, then playing them close in a playoff game 10 weeks later. All teams should improve.

B[quote name="bigdog" post="839356" timestamp="1283649808"] Hey ryker, I have some numbers for ya... State Championships: 20-4a  -4 19-4a  - 0 [/quote] Hasn't Dayton been in that district during the time you include here. Most of the teams in 19-4a have only been together a few years. BH was 3a, GCM new school, Lee 5a, North forest was combined with another school and was 5a not to many years ago, Dayton has been in both. GP has been there a while. Not a really good comparison although I wish all schools had the same enthusiasm as most in the g-triangle. Baytown has been split up into 3 schools and GCM being new has no tradition. Lee has much tradition but dwindling numbers and Sterling has athletes but cam never put anything together. GCM took many of these. You guys love your football win or lose but not all areas can say this. Dayton has the small town that supports their team now that they have had a program worth supporting. I only wish Stewart had been given the Sterling years ago. They have been the same since he was Def. Coordinator there.

Dayton, maybe GP and I do not know after this! GCM looks soft Defensively and cannot finish a drive without a mistake. I can only speculate about the other teams. Maybe they can grow up the next few games. They are now hit with the injury bug it seems.  Crosby should be there in district.

I hope the injuries are not as bad as they looked last night. It is not getting any easier, GCM has Manvel next week with no time to heal. Bye week the next.