Cougtalk

you should start your own poll its what i did.  ;)

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1073933" timestamp="1317825202"] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=88472.msg1073770#msg1073770 date=1317782220] well i don't care about them, and im doing the work to make this poll so... i guess thats all that matters aye? its really just a 4a poll because that's what interest me. And as someone whos dealt with statistics on a regular basis i feel i can create a fair environment for this poll.  [/quote] I do understand and you do have that flexibility.  But as you can understand, it would be a bit troubling for us to do a poll that would exclude 43 of the 59 schools within our coverage area.  We are a board that is intended to give a voice to schools of all size, be those as large as West Brook and Memorial to the smallest of schools in Chester and Community Christian.  Heck even beyond that we provide those smaller schools like Goodrich, Spurger, Brookeland, Port Arthur Prestonwood and yes, even Big Sandy up in Dallardsville, who do not choose to play football but do compete vigorously in other sports. And that is how our poll is contructed and divided, to give all schools an opportunity to be considered.  Of course, we know that not all will be happy at how that poll turns out...it is not intended, but anticipated...but at least they have the opportunity to be ranked and we do not have a problem with with the disagreement with that poll.  Yes, we will defend our choices and to the extent board rules allow, will point out when we believe the disagreement is an unreasonable one. I'll certainly admit that talk of the 4A districts comprises a large portion of our posts. However, that is by poster choice, not any arbitrary policy by the site.  We invite discussion and analysis regarding all schools regardless of size and while you can without interference from the site conduct your poll, this is just to let everyone know because we allow the segregation of one classification from the others does not mean that we endorse it. [/quote] look at the number of people west of Liberty to east of it. when you do that their are far more 4a schools to the west than any other, however this is the point. 1) my criticism has nothing to do with your coverage. It has to do with the comprising members. 2) The current make-up of pollsters makes senses for 20-4a, 3a, 2a, 1a, and even 5a. 3) YOU CLAIM to cover all of SETX including 19-4a. Yet i bet 65% of the people voting in that poll haven't seen a 19-4a district game. 4) your coverage in polls fundamentally excludes 19-4a and as such i'm giving them as well as 20-4a their own poll. a) this is justified by the clear prevalence for 19/20 4a traffic. b) by the lack of coverage for your MOST POPULAR subject area. c) to get rid of the i watch x or y team bias, and instead create a focused and fair assessment, because i can offset bias by having even/close to even representation. Of all the coverage areas you give theirs almost none given to MY district thus i'm giving it to them. This is easily shown by the fact that during the past 2 broadcast which btw your site has popularized, their has been mention of gcm 3 times crosby 2x, dayton 5x. Silsbee had a 20+ min segment, yet theirs no coverage of the biggest upset of the day with dayton losing to BH? Even coverage is fine... when its even. It's either small school or golden triangle no in between with your pollsters. p.s. i don't criticize your site just your poll. It's like someone in dallas ranking who they thought where the best team in houston. o wait... everyone already complains about that.

[quote name="jabu84" post="1074260" timestamp="1317848733"] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=88472.msg1059931#msg1059931 date=1316376254] I'm going to start this, a 4a exclusive poll that ranks 19-4a and 20-4a teams. What i need from you is 1 fan who supports each team in each district. Each sunday you'll recieve a ballot email, that should be returned by monday night. Thing you should know before volunteering... everyones votes will be public record. i will post the results followed by each persons ranking.  this is only ranking 19-4a and 20-4a so if your interested in being a member of the poll email me with the following information. 1) number of game you ahve attended this year/do you plan on making the vast majority of your teams games. 2) your email you would like to recieve your ballot. 3) a little guts. Your votes will matter and will be seen, have to be able to take ridicule. NO ONE is excluded (most hated poster?, most loved?, Admin?) i don't care it will be a very simple calculus to determine who gets the job for each. IF for some reason a team does not have a represenative, i will post again to try and get a representative.  This is our fan rendition of a coaches poll. Hope to get emails soon. [email protected] [/quote] I got Lee [/quote] pm me with ur email. also u go to all lee games? and will be at the remainder of them.

[quote name="MEM" post="1070811" timestamp="1317462465"] Congrats to Coldspring senior RB Colton Monroe who set a school record and tied a state & national record with a 99 yard td run against Shepherd..(He also received a couple of very good blocks along the way from Sherman Gilbert).... Monroe also had a kickoff return for a TD of about 70 yds on the second half kickoff...His previous long TD run this year was a 80 yarder against Madisonville.... Coldspring's duo of Gilbert and Monroe are putting up some big numbers and look to be one of SETX best backfields.... Congrats to both and keep running all the way to Arlington! [/quote] wow 2 in one weekend what are the odds. Video? i just want to see it.

well i don't care about them, and im doing the work to make this poll so... i guess thats all that matters aye? its really just a 4a poll because that's what interest me. And as someone whos dealt with statistics on a regular basis i feel i can create a fair environment for this poll. 

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1073398" timestamp="1317755272"] I love it!  A poll that includes less than 1/3 of the schools in he SETX coverage area! How freaking elitist of y'all! Like [b]4A ball is the only thing that anyone cares about[/b]! Hehehe! Boys, my fun has only just begun! [/quote] Or perhaps it's just true. also i'm a Crosby football fan, and i haven't seen a 3a game in years, thus it'd be hard for me to judge 3a teams as for 2a teams... who cares =p. fyi last 3a game i saw was huffman vs coldspring. like 5 years ago. and also i didn't call this the setx football poll... i called it the 4a FAN POLL. o and on another note... perhaps you should change the name of ur poll to the Beaumont people making predictions about teams they've never seen play poll.... at least in my poll everyone will have seen at least half the teams play at the end of the year.

nah but we did what we should have bronco...

ok this poll will start after this week of play. i will send the email, we have uneven numbers right now. so where 20-4a at? i need 1 more 20-4a representative from one of the school mentioned. without a sponsor. also every monday their will be 2 threads. 1 will be individual score cards. 2 will be cumulative records. i am using a high low exclusion so that the polls come out better for example. i will take ranks lets say dayton was ranked 1,3,3,3,3,3,3,12 by people voting. then i will drop their highest ranking and their lowest ranking, so they would have a total ranks of 3,3,3,3,3,3. This is one of the simplest things to prevent absolute bias. Also it will be strict ranks, for example you can't rank bh/png as 2 u have to rank each in order. i will send a group email out on thursday to define the rules and make sure people understand.

[quote name="bh15" post="1072656" timestamp="1317659802"] [quote author=ragarm55 link=topic=89216.msg1072532#msg1072532 date=1317650312] Here's a team stat that is neat, but sorta uncommon with all of the great individuals on these high school teams.  Seven touchdowns scored by BH against Lee Friday night...Seven scores by seven different players.  Can you spell T-E-A-M. [/quote]Pulled the starters in the 3rd quarter and did a lot of substituting before that. A lot of kids get to play and it keeps everyone happy. Hope we have this kind of luxury in future games :D [/quote] you will against nf they are a one man show, and that qb is gonna get himeslf killed.

then one of those trolling coaches should come do it. =p

To be saying this is a must win game, in week 5?

[quote name="pngfan1" post="1070696" timestamp="1317442918"] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=89024.msg1070650#msg1070650 date=1317441452] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=89024.msg1069217#msg1069217 date=1317342927] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=89024.msg1069177#msg1069177 date=1317340048] One mistake in that. I think Nederland's running attack is outshine bertrand. But thats just my opinion. [/quote] I think the QB's are even but PNG the edge at WR.  They have it the other way around. [/quote] PNG has the second worse receiver core i've seen this season... the worst being North Forest. They simply drop to many balls. [/quote] You must have only seen one game at the most. LaCour and Chipman have both been doing well. [/quote] Well i just know how they did against a horrible pass defense... it's like if you throw for 200 against the Texans last year... you sorry. =p

this is a shameless bump... do Bulldogs fans not love their team? come on panameyers u seem to know lee, why not be their guy? Where are my Beaumont schools at? NF/GP never on anyways.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1069657" timestamp="1317402229"] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=89009.msg1069607#msg1069607 date=1317398192] if we're opening it up a bit then i go with these guys. QB Garry Kimble 69.09 comp pct, 1154 yards, 10 TD's 1 pick, Rushing 242, 7 TD's 6.37 per carry. RB James White 761 yards 10 TD's, 8.55 per carry, 3 receptions for 54 yards 1 TD WR Mike Williams 18 receptions 444 yards 25 yards per reception 6 TD its a close one with Brenham but they are better statistically than PAM. [/quote] Hey Cougtalk, where should those Crosby Cougars be ranked now? BTW, what happened to your "fan poll"? [/] poll is still in progress i need nederland/lcm/cental/ozen for 20-4a and i need north forest/gp for 19-4a (i think that is right.)  honestly if get 2 more for 20-4a i'll start it. Hey Cougtalk, where should those Crosby Cougars be ranked now? right in front of West Orange-Stark. so like #17. with wos 18 and central 19 =P. 

big school will only look at him if he gets bigger. I.e. Dobbs from Montgomery = key example. kid simply needs to get bigger. 

[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="1069217" timestamp="1317342927"] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=89024.msg1069177#msg1069177 date=1317340048] One mistake in that. I think Nederland's running attack is outshine bertrand. But thats just my opinion. [/quote] I think the QB's are even but PNG the edge at WR.  They have it the other way around. [/quote] PNG has the second worse receiver core i've seen this season... the worst being North Forest. They simply drop to many balls.

if we're opening it up a bit then i go with these guys. QB Garry Kimble 69.09 comp pct, 1154 yards, 10 TD's 1 pick, Rushing 242, 7 TD's 6.37 per carry. RB James White 761 yards 10 TD's, 8.55 per carry, 3 receptions for 54 yards 1 TD WR Mike Williams 18 receptions 444 yards 25 yards per reception 6 TD its a close one with Brenham but they are better statistically than PAM.

that is awesome.

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1068036" timestamp="1317176563"] [quote author=bh89-2 link=topic=88905.msg1068019#msg1068019 date=1317175662] OK, whoever voted for WOS is obviously just voting for their team.  I think we can all agree they suck this year.  Huffman would kill WOS.  Dayton would beat Nederland as well. OK, I feel better.  Man, not having anything to complain about was hard...... ;D ;D [/quote] Actually, the lone voter with ties to WO-S did not even have the Mustangs in his Top 15.  And don't think we can all agree with your conclusions. [/quote] That is because your objective. and the others are crazy... Honestly i don't think Crosby deserves a vote our defense is terrible, sure we will probably make the playoffs but sheesh that defense is bad.

[quote name="RED MACHINE" post="1066778" timestamp="1317062543"] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=88747.msg1066766#msg1066766 date=1317061762] [quote author=RED MACHINE link=topic=88747.msg1066443#msg1066443 date=1317034279] I don't care what anybody anybody says. You can rush or throw for a 1,000 yards all you want but you can't have 5 turnovers in a game & still expect to win. Crosby has to learn to hold on to the ball & not throw interceptions. It is that simple!!!!! [/quote] to be fair both interception are on plays they hadn't ran in game situation previously. one he didn't put enough loft to get the screen over the lb, the other was a medium range play with a safety over top cb on bottom, in both cases those are tought throws. i don't know why we would put a sophmore in that position. seems like a position to fail not a position to succeed. [/quote] I see why people call you Goubtalk. Life isn't fair. Soph. or Senior DON'T TURN THE BALL OVER & GIVE YOURSELF A CHANCE TO WIN. Now on a second note this Crosby Team can't afford to make mistakes like turning the ball. I see the offense can score around 35 points & the defense gives up around 28 points. So we don't need turnovers VERY SIMPLE. [/quote] So lets get this straight? Hay Sophmore this is a new play were gonna run it 15x in practice then where gonna tell you to do it? A Touch pass that takes QB's months to develop, the ability to sink a ball? Perhaps you'd rather the safety hand the ball off every play? If you don't want him to turn the ball over don't run plays that are high risk. Throw screens/Run the ball help the kid out. 10 point lead with the ball why aren't we lining up a heavy set and pounding the ball with #11 Forrest Tyler. Hit the hole and push. I'd much rather trust my line with a one cut back than my Sophmore QB with a touch pass. Also I'm not sure whats going on in your head but reciting lore of ancient football bygones doesn't solve the problem. See a Fan says "We can't turnover the ball", A coach says "we have to minimize the risk of turning over the ball due to our youth" "Life isn't fair. Soph. or Senior DON'T TURN THE BALL OVER & GIVE YOURSELF A CHANCE TO WIN." Austin Walter produced more positive plays than negative plays. he had 2 Picks he had a 30+ yard run and a score on the ground. He was asked to throw the ball deeper than he had been all season. guess what he got Picked off. I expect a bunch of short passes and a 6 linemen set for the backs. Also as a disclaimer: I work under the philosophy that Jimmy Johnson once said. Every coach makes 3 bad play calls a game, if a coach is honest with himself he can find them. Thus as an observer should give credence to the fact hindsight is 20/20 i think Coach will definitely have a more capable game plan for his QB. Of Course assuming he plays (he was out at the end of the game).

[quote name="RED MACHINE" post="1066443" timestamp="1317034279"] I don't care what anybody anybody says. You can rush or throw for a 1,000 yards all you want but you can't have 5 turnovers in a game & still expect to win. Crosby has to learn to hold on to the ball & not throw interceptions. It is that simple!!!!! [/quote] to be fair both interception are on plays they hadn't ran in game situation previously. one he didn't put enough loft to get the screen over the lb, the other was a medium range play with a safety over top cb on bottom, in both cases those are tought throws. i don't know why we would put a sophmore in that position. seems like a position to fail not a position to succeed.

[quote name="prepballfan" post="1065047" timestamp="1316883151"] I think Crosby and BH will be a fun game to watch [/quote] agree because of how late in the season it is.

[quote name="UgotTRUCKED" post="1066073" timestamp="1316985031"] I am going with some PO'd Broncos to take it out on GP: 34-[b]21[/b] [/quote] just my prediction thats what im thinking.

[quote name="SETEXASSPORTS" post="1065742" timestamp="1316955362"] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=88747.msg1064637#msg1064637 date=1316837478] 14 played qb almost whole game (3 plays he was out), Astin Walter hurt his arm 2 separate times cougs qb was out for most the 4th quarter. but Gator heavy 2x in a row from the 3 won lee the game. [/quote] the offense played bad really bad but still had 410 yards rushing. Crosby's secondary is whats killing crosby. [/quote] 4 turnovers after large drives = your offense is killing you all three turnovers happened on the lee side of the field, don't speculate about a game you didn't see. yeah 410 rushing yards and the whole 3rd quarter we passed the ball... go figure. Secondary wasn't the people getting picked on it was the line backing core second half rally was due to good running/playing a fast and athletic qb. worrying about those two got people out of position. Crosby has a zone and their was nothing caught over the top, broken tackles yes but nothing over the top.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1065028" timestamp="1316882234"] Where should Crosby be ranked now? ::) [/quote] higher than wos.