James Mosley

Don't get me wrong JM, going camping is the in thing now in being recruited for football and will be for the forseeable future. My whole thing with DJ was/is, his stock didn't shoot up on the internet until he changed his verbal from A&M to UT. Just me but those stars didn't popup by his name until he wanted to be a Longhorn but time will tell. I agree, when he switched to UT he became a 5 star recruit, he became a known player by going to camps and combines, not by his play at Nederland. He had a good career at Nederland, and is a fine player but, he would have never got the attention unless he attended some camps. Same goes for Stefan, we all know what the kid has done, can do, and what he can become but, when you play in the area Nederland plays you are restricted as to who sees you unless you go three to four rounds deep in the playoffs. I agree, camps and combines are the future!!! Better go if you want to go to the next level.....Difference with Stefan is he will play for his TEAM first and his future second, he is a Bulldog for now!!!.....

Last years camp wonder? You must be talking about DJ, tell me this, had he not gotten the offer from Texas would you have blamed the coaches at Nederland? Camp wonders, can do wonders, for you getting a wonderful degree paid for at a big D1 school. If you play football at Nederland you better hit the camp trail and combines to get the attention of the coaches. Do great at the camps then they know who you are and start showing up at your school and games to see you in action, stay home and don't attend camps, they never know who you are and don't come to see ya, then blame the head coach for not getting you a shot at playing college ball. Wow!!

It's obvious sfa85 doesn't agree with ya coop. Just an observation. I want to say the times when the defender was pinned to the ground, that may draw a holding flag from the refs but hey that's just me. Once the defender got into his chest, that may lead to a sack. Remember, he plays guard, not tackle. Maybe Nuemann the Great should move him to RT to protect his QB's back(he's a lefty right?) SFA85 he already plays right tackle at Nederland, not guard, he my even snap the shotgun a few times if needed. He will play some defense too this year. Didn't know he played RT. The article said he played guard... That is the position they see him having the best potential at the college level...I would agree

It's obvious sfa85 doesn't agree with ya coop. Just an observation. I want to say the times when the defender was pinned to the ground, that may draw a holding flag from the refs but hey that's just me. Once the defender got into his chest, that may lead to a sack. Remember, he plays guard, not tackle. Maybe Nuemann the Great should move him to RT to protect his QB's back(he's a lefty right?) SFA85 he already plays right tackle at Nederland, not guard, he my even snap the shotgun a few times if needed. He will play some defense too this year.

What he did he did better than all but one lineman from across the nation. They all go through the same drills the NFL combine put you through and he came out on top. Good post reply SFA85, your opinion, my opinion, neither matters much when deciding the kids future. The one opinion that counts will be the one sending him to a free D1 ride......and they are adding up quickly!!!!!!

Ryan is enrolled at Lamar, I was hoping he would try to walk on at North Texas next fall but it doesn't look like that is going to work out. Hopefully, Lamar will be back in football business soon and he can play a few years there.

If you say enough times it's bound to come true. So yes, Neumann is staying....LOL

Let'em talk penny, bottom line Neumann is staying a Bulldog!!

water it down, talk it down, or compare it down, don't matter we will keep him and we have!!!!!!!!!!!

No, bottom line is Coach Neumann would turn down the LaMarque job and stay in Nederland. He is a Bulldog and will retire a Bulldog.....take it to the bank!!!

What Coach in America would not want a ring. He will get the money to keep him in Nederland and there is no guarantee he would win a championship at LaMarque anyway. From what I'm reading and hearing they are going to be down in talent next year. I say he stays because Nederland does the right thing and brings his salary up to par!!! Our school board will get it right.

He has earned it, ( $$ ), and will get it, ( $$ ), to stay a Bulldog.....

I believe Nederland will do something to keep Neumann a Bulldog, so relax, and put away all the resumes!!!

By the time you read this reply it WILL be baseball season....... Ways to Get to First Base (in Baseball) 1. Hit 2. Fielder's Choice 3. Reached on Error (includes MLB Offical Rule 7.05 i) 4. Dropped Third Strike 5. Hit by Pitch 6. Walk 7. Catcher's Interference Some other suggestions: Runner's Interference (batted ball hits a runner in fair territory. The runner is out, and the batter is awarded a hit). This is not a separate item in the list since it's included as a Hit. Entering game as a pinch runner (not included because the question seems focused on the batter reaching first base). Certain illegal pitching actions are penalized by adding a ball to the count. This may result in a walk, which is already on the list. Discussion There are exactly eight ways, as stated above. Other methods listed in this discussion (see below) are incorrect, in that they either do not apply, or are an incorrect double-counting of a way to reach base. Here are some of those incorrect answers, with commentary: A) Inserted as a pinch-runner Come on, that's not what the question is about. It's "How does a BATTER reach base?" 7.05(h) wild pickoff throw into the stands Does not affect batter. C) 7.05(h) wild pitch that goes into the stands Does not affect batter unless the pitch is Ball Four or Strike Three. If ball four, batter reaches on a walk. If strike three, batter reaches on a dropped third strike. Either way, this situation is already covered. D) 7.05(i) pitch lodges in umpire's equipment Same rules apply here as in the example D above: must be Ball 4 or Strike 3, and if so, it is scored either as a walk or a dropped third strike. There is no such scoring as "Umpire's Interference." E) 3-ball count balk Batter can never reach base on a balk. Balks only impact the runners on base. Additionally, a pitcher cannot ever technically balk with the bases empty. F) Differences in 3rd strike scenarios All of the scenarios listed are scored the same way: credit both the batter and pitcher with a strikeout, but record no putout. This answer counts only one time. G) Fan Interference Cannot reach base on this. You can be awarded additional bases or possibly be called out due to fan interference, but reaching base is not provided under fan interference rules. However, even if this were the case, there is such scoring as "Fan Interference." Such plays will always be scored as a single. H) Batted Ball hits a runner In this situation, the batter gets first, the struck runner is out, the ball is dead, and the putout goes to the nearest fielder. However, the play is scored as a single. So again, this is already dealt with in the list of eight. I) 4 illegal pitches An illegal pitch is a ball. Four illegal pitches equals a walk. So again, already dealt with. J) Pitcher fails to deliver the pitch within 20 seconds Called a ball; see above. K) Reach on a double play Scored as a fielder's choice. An Argument About 11 Ways to Reach First Notes in italics indicate opposing commentary. I once heard 21 ways, but that included the variances such as there are 4 different types of hits (single, double, triple and home run) and the different kinds of errors (fielding, throwing, dropped ball, etc.) that allow you to get to first base and beyond. Also that list of 21 may have been how can a "player" reach first base which would then include pinch running. I count 11 distinct ways to reach first base: 1. hit 2. base on balls/walk 3. hit by pitch 4. reach on an error 5. catcher's interference 6. passed ball on strike 3 7. wild pitch on strike 3 (6 & 7 are both dropped third strike.) 8. sacrifice 9. double play 10. fielder's choice (9 is an example of 10.) 11. runner interference (certain situations) To refute an argument from a previous post, Nos. 6 and 7 are different. A passed ball and a wild pitch are two separate and different things and thus each situation is scored differently (K-PB or K-WP). A passed ball is the catcher's fault. A wild pitch is the pitcher's fault. (By that logic, you could say that a double and a home run are two different things, since they're scored differently.) From the fielder's perspective, these plays are scored differently. However, for the batter, it is still scored as reaching on a strikeout. Splitting hairs very finely may cause someone to include this item twice, once as a K-WP, once as a K-PB. However, the onus of this question is on the batter. ("How does a BATTER reach first base?") In this sense, the batter reaches on a misplayed strikeout. He still gets a SO charged to him in the scorebook either way. But since a WP is technically a pitching statistic, and a PB is a fielding statistic, a hyper-critical examination could lead to you treating these as two distinct plays. However, even in this case, we are only up to nine ways, certainty not 11, 15, 23 or any other strange concoction of plays. About runner interference, the batter does not always get awarded first base such as when a runner goes out of the way to break up a double play. In that situation both the runner and the batter are declared out. Where is the situation where a batter is awarded first because a lead runner interfered with a fielder? Yes, a batter can certainly be called OUT because of runner's interference. However, please explain to me the situation where the runner is automatically SAFE because of it. What kind of play would be listed in the official scorer's book as "safe on runner's interference"? There is no such thing as a balk with no runners on base. The balk rule is in place to prevent pitchers from deceiving base runners. No base runners, no balks. It's not uncommon to see a pitcher do a balk movement with no one on base. Umpires do not enforce any rules requiring a pitcher to pitch within 20 seconds anymore, if they ever did. I believe the actual rule states that any pitch not conforming to the rule about timing of pitches will be called a ball. I may be wrong though. Any illegal act performed by a pitcher will not get a batter to first base. If it is an illegal pitch, the pitch will be ruled a ball and most likely the pitcher will be ejected. The only exception I can think of would be if the hitter got hit by the pitch and then it would just be an HBP with the pitcher then being tossed. Fan interference of a fly ball results in the batter being called out. Fan interference of a fair ball results in a hit, typically a ground-rule double (most seen when a ball hit in the OF corners is interfered with). As for the the whole rain-postponed, player traded, etc. nonsense. If a player gets to first and the game is postponed (If a game is postponed, none of the stats of the game count, and it starts again from scratch. I think that you mean "suspended.") and then the player gets traded before the game is completed, his replacement enters the game as a pinch-runner (substituting for a runner already on base) and does not reach base as a batter. This is the same game that just happens is being played over two days. Also, in the cases of postponed (suspended) games, when play does resume with the runner on first base (and it's the same guy), he was already there by whatever means got him there before the postponement. It's the same game. If a fair batted ball strikes an umpire, it remains in play and can be fielded and the batter and runners advance at their own risk. The batter receives no special benefit unless the ball ricochets away from the fielders and he gets a hit out of it. A foul ball striking an umpire in foul territory remains a foul ball. Sacrifice: Sometimes a hitter will reach base in a sacrifice situation and still be credited with either a sacrifice or sacrifice fly even though it may be accompanied by an error or a fielder's choice. Exactly. The batter will still be changed with an SF or SH, but he does NOT reach first on the sacrifice itself. This is impossible. The batter only reaches first base on the SUBSEQUENT action, namely a fielder's choice or an error. He can never reach on a sacrifice, but he can reach on a FC or error that happens AFTER he has sacrificed himself. Such a play is always scored as such. An Argument About 23 Ways of Getting to First Base Notes in italics indicate opposing commentary. According to Eric Enders, a researcher with the Baseball Hall of Fame, there are 23 legal ways to get to first (but 2 fewer ways for a batter to do so); Some of these may be scored similarly, but they are all apparently distinct ways to get to first. 1. walk 2. intentional walk [this is now scored separately from a walk, and records are kept; Barry Bonds just broke his old season record a few weeks ago] Incorrect. This is still scored in the BB column. Now, it is ALSO scored in the IBB column, but it is still just a walk, varying only in degree. This is the same reason we don't count doubles, triples and HR as separate ways of getting on base. All of these are still base hits; they just also have a special additional designation. A double is scored in both the H and 2B column, but it is still just a hit for the purposes of this discussion. 3. hit by pitch 4. dropped third strike 5. failure to deliver pitch within 20 seconds [yes, it might be scored as a ball, but it doesn't involve throwing the ball outside the strike zone and violates a different rule] Incorrect. This is scored as a ball. Batter never reaches first on this unless it is ball four, and then it is scored as a walk. 6. catcher interference 7. fielder interference (Incorrect. Fielder interference or obstruction that causes the batter to reach first would either be scored a hit or an error, depending on whether the batter would have reached first if not for the obstruction.) 8. spectator interference ("the act of a spectator touching a live ball by reaching out of the stands or going on the playing field") Incorrect. If a spectator interferes with the ball, the batter will reach whatever base the umpires felt he would have reached, and the play will be scored as a hit (single, double, etc.). There is no official scoring for "spectator interference"; it shows up in the boxscore as a hit. 9. fan obstruction [truth be told, I have no idea how this differs from spectator interference] Incorrect. This is the same as #8 above. 10. fair ball hits umpire Incorrect. An umpire in fair territory is considered part of the playing field, so if the ball ricochets off of him, it is the same as taking a bad hop. There is not official scoring for "umpire interference". 11. fair ball hits runner Incorrect. In this situation, the batter gets first, the struck runner is out, the ball is dead, and the putout goes to the nearest fielder. However, the play is scored as a single. 12. fielder obstructs runner Incorrect. This is the same thing that is correctly listed above in #7. 13. pinch-runner [does not apply to batter] Incorrect. Come on, now. It is "How does a BATTER reach first base?" A pinch-runner is not a batter. 14. fielder's choice [which may not result in an out anywhere] 15. force out at another base Incorrect. This is also a fielder's choice, which is already dealt with in #14. If a fielder throws to another base and does not attempt to get the batter out, it is always scores as "reached on fielder's choice". 16. preceding runner put-out allows batter to reach first Incorrect. Again, this is still a fielder's choice, and again, already covered in #14. 17. sac bunt fails to advance runner [i would have thought this was just a fielder's choice] Incorrect. Once AGAIN, this is a fielder's choice. The play went to another base. Just because they do not actually get the runner out at second does not mean the batter reached for any other reason than a FC. 18. sac fly dropped [i would have thought this was just an error] Incorrect. The batter here reaches on an error. Now, it is ALSO still listed as a sac fly, but the manner in which the batter reached based was on the error. 19. runner called out on appeal Incorrect. How in the world can a batter reach first base when a different runner is called out on an appeal? This has no bearing on the batter reaching first. An appeal play happens after the initial play is over, so the batter would have already been either on first base, or out. 20. error 21. four illegal pitches [yes, scored as balls, but again, not necessarily involving 4 pitches outside the strike zone] Incorrect. An illegal pitch is scored as a ball. Batter never reaches first on this unless it is ball four, and then it is scored as a walk. 22. if a game is suspended with a runner on first and that player is traded prior to the makeup, another player can take his place [does not apply to batter, and I imagine this would apply if the original runner was not available for other reasons, such as illness, injury, etc.] Incorrect. Again, come on! This player would STILL be a pinch-runner! This applies to all of the goofy "player ejected, player traded during a suspended game" scenarios that have been listed here. 23. hit Discussion: Double Play vs Fielder's Choice Opinion 1: A double play and a fielder's choice are two distinctly different things. A double play always results in two outs. Even when a rundown is involved and the final result is two outs, it is considered a double play and counts that way in a team's double play totals. A fielder's choice does not always result in an out. Runner on third, batter hits a ground ball to short, shortstop fires home to get the runner from third but the throw is late and the runner scores. The batter just reached first via a fielder's choice. All a fielder's choice says is that the fielder chose not to get the sure out at first base. He may have instead gotten a force out at another base or it could have been something like the scenario I described above. They are different situations and are thus scored and recorded differently. I realize that in a lot of case, it's just shades of grey but if you want to be completely accurate they are two different things. If they were the same things, then triple plays are the same as double plays and fielder's choices. Opinion 2: Reaching on a double-play IS a fielder's choice. You reached because the fielder could have retired you at first but chose to retire runners instead. It makes no difference if no runners or one runner or two runners were retired this is all the same fielder's choice. Sidebar: Balking With Bases Empty It is impossible for a pitcher to balk with the bases empty. According to the legendary Tigers catcher, Jim Price, "You can fake a throw anywhere you want, except to home." Upon further review, a throw to first base must be completed, UNLESS the pitcher steps off the pitcher's plate first. Mickey Lolich was the master of circumventing the balk rules. He was the best I've ever seen at the second base pickoff. The accepted norm is, the pitcher's front foot must be in front of a perpendicular line drawn from the rubber to the first base line on throws to first. Sidebar: Fan Obstruction Fan Obstruction is a rule within baseball. If a fan were to throw something on the field and hit the batter in the middle of a pitch or run out and tackle them... it is interference. Sidebar: Illegal Pitch on 3-Ball Count This is basically a balk with no one on base and when a batter has a 3-ball count. The runner is awarded the base without a pitch being thrown. Not a base on balls. I saw this happen while attending a game in 2004. Reggie Sanders was the batter for the Cardinals against the Pirates. (It's a base on balls.) Sidebar: Catcher's Balk There's an incorrect perception that a batter is awarded first base if the catcher does not return to the catcher's box before signaling and receiving a pitch. This is not true. If the pitcher pitches while the catcher is outside of the catcher's box, a balk may be called, but this would result in the runners advancing (as with any other balk), not with the batter being awarded first base. Other suggestions Umpire interference (already covered) Force out at another base (fielder's choice) Preceding runner put-out allows batter to reach first (fielder's choice) Intentional walk (A bit different from Walk, the opposing team WANTS you on base) (still a walk) Pass ball on third strike (includes MLB Offical Rule 7.05 h) You're out at 1st but the 1st base umpire commits a monumental boo-boo and calls you safe! This actually happened in the 6th game of a world series, bottom of the 9th, 2 outs! Intentionally dropped and CALLED "infield fly." The batter is out, except for the "if fair" clause. Runners on first and second, or first second and third AND less than two outs. Must be a way to get on base there somewhere. (That's a bad example since the batter is out and does not reach first.) Light interference in a dome (Never heard of such a thing) There are only seven ways for a batter to reach first base. 1. hit 2. reach on error 3. base on balls 4. hit by pitch 5. catcher's interference (also scored as an error on the catcher) 6. dropped third strike 7. reach on fielder's choice A catcher's balk is ruled against the pitcher. (It's the pitcher's responsibility to pitch when the catcher is in the correct position.) In a balk, only baserunners advance. A batter cannot reach base on a balk. Reaching base because of fan interference counts as a hit. Umpire's error. For example a three-ball walk is accidentally awarded. ANOTHER WAY TO GET TO FIRST There's one more way for a batter to reach first base: Umpire Award. Although the odds of such an event taking place are low, Rule 9.01c specifically states that each umpire has the authority to rule on any point not specifically covered by the rules. This could include awarding a batter first place for something unusual - perhaps crazy antics by the pitcher or opposing dugout. Answer A hit, defensive error, walk, balk and hit by pitch. Strike out on 3rd pitch but catcher drops ball and batter is allowed to run to first base while catcher finds ball and attempts to throw out batter. There are five possible ways for the batter to get to first base. A batter can't reach first by a balk. Again, it's the seven ways previously stated.

I thinks that is 7, three more!

Almost, need a few more....

List ten ways to get on base without getting a hit....

Agreed, nice post, a good one to put this topic to rest on. Go Dogs!

No it's hiding or it's a sign of a very insecure person...Bashing a coach or player behind a keyboard is horsepucky! I stole that name from a fellow poster!LOL

I never had much respect for people who hide behind keyboards and down a coach or player for doing his or her job. Coach Smith has a life passion to be a coach, the people who dump on a coach behind a keyboard and talk about how much THEY THINK THEY KNOW about the game or usually not someone who could ever BE A COACH. They often get offended first time someone challenges them to what they are saying....That is not a good quality to have if you think of yourself as being someone who could LEAD a TEAM in battle. This is not all directed at LUFAN either, I think LUFAN is a fan of the game just not of our Coach.....He has his right to bash we have our right to fight back.....Go girls take care of our friendly purple people tonight. Take that back, GO KICK SOME BUTT!!!

This is basketball and has nothing to do with football. I'm proud of my daughter and her team so anything negative I wear on my sleeve. You talk about our Coach and I defend him with just as much passion as you do against him. There is no difference between the two. You chose to call out the bad stuff I chose to praise the good stuff. I have read some of your post on Friday Night Experience message board about how you were glad Nederland's former boys coach, Coach Williams, was gone and how he should have left a long time ago. I guess I don't know much about basketball because I thought the man did a great job with what he had to work with and being in the caliber district he coached in. Seems you have a pattern for not liking coaching. Again, Thanks for backing against patitan, try to back our girls and coach and give it a chance to progress into something Nederland can be proud of. Again, sit down next to me, introduce yourself, and let's discuss the game as it plays out. From my view point the coaching has not been the problem. LUFAN check your pm messages I sent you something I didn't want all the others to read......LOL

Who is insulting who. Quit trying to insult you, man you got some thin skin dude, YOU could never make it as a REAL Coach with skin that thin. I'm not insulting you just sticking up for something I believe in and you are sticking up for something you believe in. You are right, you are a fan and you have the right to come on this board and talk about the Coach and the girls but be prepared to be attacked when we talk back in defense of OUR COACH and Girls. If you can't take the insults SHUT UP. You want to come on this board and talk bad about how the Coach does not have his players ready, be ready to be told you are an idiot. Like I said before, come sit yourself down next to me at a game and break down just where, when, and how it could be better. Oh wait, you can't do that!!!!Being brought up in a good system is a perfect example you brought out, truth is the player has got to want to lay it on the line for his or her team mates and do all he or she can for their COACH, if they believe in their team mates and will go to battle for their leader, that is what gets a person to the next level, not just the good program. These girls lay in on the line for each other and they play hard for their COACH, do us all a favor and just be a fan.....

Right you ask? Hang around after a game and I'll break it down for you!!!!I will go slow so you can grasp the entire concept. One more hint, Coach Smith is a Coach by profession, so I believe he can take it. His skin is much thicker than someones who hides behind a keyboard and talks crap. One more thing, I'm not calling anyone names on this board, never have, but I can say this, LUFAN IS NOT A COACH!!!!!!!!LOLOLOLOLOL

I personally could care less how much you know about basketball. YOU do not coach the NEDERLAND GIRLS BASKETBALL TEAM and so what YOU have to say about the coach and players really has no meaning expect to take up space on a computer website. Have the guts to post your name, hang around the game afterwards and talk strategy with Coach Smith or us parents. By the way, from what I'm hearing in the parent section Coach Smith has and will always have 100% of our support. The guy coaches a great game plan, the girls are on the edge of having a playoff caliber team. Give it a few more games and let's see what happens, until then keep hiding behind your keyboard and stirring up the girls, cause it's comments like what you make that makes them want to play even harder. Remember who they play for, NEDERLAND and Coach SMITH!!!!! Again, who freaking cares about how much you know, Support and Shut UP!