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West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final
#1stangfan replied to monknuk68's topic in High School Football
Valid point. Thanks. -
West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final
#1stangfan replied to monknuk68's topic in High School Football
Oh ok. How many seasons did WOS have the recent W/L record and playoff shortcomings of recent history no matter the “talent” (always love some good quotations which lead to parentheses)? The points allowed have been record breaking in the wrong direction. I’m sure you have all the insight as to why the job came open. There are others that would differ with your opinion but regardless….this job was coming open sooner than later. The coaching staff does seem talented. However, just like an athlete, all the talent in the world can be there but it has to be focused in the right direction. -
West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final
#1stangfan replied to monknuk68's topic in High School Football
Lots of folks calling out the WOS faithful and anyone that was disappointed in the coaching. It is easy now to sit back and call everyone idiots right now when halfway through this regular season the narrative was still holding true. The narrative being that WOS is underperforming. These teams have been very talented but there has been something lacking. True, there is probably always a learning curve but there is also the saying “if it isn’t broke don’t fix it” that can’t be overlooked. The defense went from being stout to Swiss cheese for a few seasons and a few reasons. I for one hope that this season is the new norm and not an outlier. Not necessarily saying State is the norm but back to being a force. I hope the staff is successful for the sake of the themselves, players, school, fans, community and history. I hope Coach Hickman is super successful going forward and that success is with WOS. -
PNG vs SOC State Championship Game Thread/Post updates here
#1stangfan replied to Reagan's topic in High School Football
I understand that to be consistent you need both my friend -
PNG vs SOC State Championship Game Thread/Post updates here
#1stangfan replied to Reagan's topic in High School Football
Not certain why most of your posts go to discrediting coaching on every side…insisting it is all the players. I can assure you folks/fans on our side of the fence know the difference in good coaching with athletes and having athletes without coaching. GREAT WIN PNG -
PNG vs SOC State Championship Game Thread/Post updates here
#1stangfan replied to Reagan's topic in High School Football
A war of nutrition ??? A new take. -
They need to make a change and it is HH. I don’t know that any assistant with upside wants the risk that this regime brings with it. Then in the event they do move on from HH, those coaches have risked a lot for one year and probably a season they don’t want to put on their resume.
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I know of a school that knew how to stop it……but recent HC/DC at the same school couldn’t stop a tear with a tissue.
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Bellville (49) @ West Orange-Stark (7) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
I wouldn’t bank on it. I’m sure he will be around for a while. The SPT isn’t concerned about the football program. -
Silsbee (20) @ West Orange-Stark (6) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
I’m sure he had to quit watching last year. To even call this a “defense” is generous. However, this is what the program needed🙄 -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
I don’t think he is going anywhere. The spt wanted something and got it. The SPT can justify the “success” by making the playoffs each year. I wish it weren’t so… -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
Ummmm kudos to Newton……but the weakness they found was coaching -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
Won’t happen. There is a new definition of “success” at the helm now. -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
But it’s still not good football. Might as well just watch a track meet -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
Fun game?? This is an abomination and not good football on either side. -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
One thing I’ve noticed is that teams didn’t hang 50 points on WOS. -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
WOS was based on tradition, silver helmets pursuit etc…according to the new coach there is more to football than that. I can only assume this is part of the new process.🙄 -
Newton (58) @ West Orange-Stark (54) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
Is anyone really shocked?? -
Well, for one it sure costs a lot less money to bus the kids 20 minutes down the road. I can’t speak for now but in the past many of the players now each other from church, family, community etc and they look forward to the game. What is the reasoning for NOT playing the game? What is LCM going to gain from playing another opponent? Are you asking for a stronger or weaker opponent than LCM? There was a small window where this game was not played.
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Well I think it’s safe to say that no one is afraid of either team stealing state titles at this point but the season is young. Folks do get hyped up sometimes when there is a week one blowout. Happened to WOS last year. Beat Nederland by a landslide and shut them out. Many thought the program was still on track.
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West Orange-Stark (40) @ Nederland (34) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
I guess no one read the article or saw my post. Hickman basically said we have to do away with all of that old stuff and do new stuff to move “forward”. His definition of forward is a moonwalk thus far. -
West Orange-Stark (40) @ Nederland (34) - FINAL
#1stangfan replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
Anyone read the OrangeLeader article where the coach (paraphrasing) said “all they know is team pursuit, silver helmets, defense and traditions”. Well, they are getting indoctrinated to a few more experiences now.