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[quote name="PNG Proud" post="1139226" timestamp="1322968525"]
[quote author=Xaphoon link=topic=92332.msg1138581#msg1138581 date=1322934902]
I didn't read the entire board, so someone may have said something like this already.

Does anyone remember PNG-Central brawl? The year that happened, PNG had a ton of seniors and had a rough year... Would punishing PNG the next season be a righteous punishment? Not at all! Most of the fighters were seniors (general statement because the team was mostly seniors). They didn't care.

My point is that you can't ruin the next season for the juniors, sophomores, and freshman who had absolutely no part in this fight. That's why the coaches are left with the punishment. If there is film on the fight, you can punish individual players, but you can't punish the entire program, a good chunk of both teams will be new next year.
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You see it happen in colleges all the time.  A school would be barred from the playoffs (Bowl Games) for X # of yrs.  Yes, you're punishing kids that may not have been involved,  but the main purpose, IMO, is to straighten the coaches out.    Because, ultimately,  discipline comes from the coaches and is instilled in to the players.
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Coaches have no control over knee jerk reactions from a player that is in the heat of a game and emotional. You can discipline a player all you want as a coach, but some guys are just hot headed and will fight, no matter who the coach. A team has a tight knit and if one player is getting in a fight others are going to step in. College is WAY different from high school. There is no comparison because those are adult students who chose to go to the school they go to, not kids that are living with their parents. I was a sophomore whenever PNG got into the brawl with Central. I had absolutely nothing to do with it and if they would have punished our program I would have never gotten the opportunity to experience my junior and senior year where we went 2 and 3 rounds deep.
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I think it is different for a college program because punishments in years following can hurt recruitment efforts, and players can move to another school if Im not mistaken.

As for Ozen and any punishment involved I would like to recommend one of two.

[b]1 Next season when playing Vidor, Jacobi Jones should be required to play the entire game with his shoelaces tied together, and Trey Green also if he is returning.

2 Next season, again only in the Vidor game, the Ozen end zone should be shrunk to a 1 square foot patch of field, placed on a skate board, with a string attached to it, ran to Coach Mathews hand![/b]

Now that there is funny stuff.
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