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This is a tough one. Speed versus Discipline. Normally one would think speed makes up for talent, Ozen has talent and speed, deadly combination. However, Vidor has size, disciplined and well coached offense, tough to defend. I see Vidor keeping the ball out of the the speed and talented Ozen backs hand by long drives and a lot of clock chew. My prediction, Vidor 28-Ozen 24
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All valid points Puddle.  Just to point out the other side of the coin, Ozen's speed enables them to score quickly if they are able to keep Vidor close they may be able to get a couple of quick scores even if Vidor has a large margin in Time of Possession.
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[quote name="puddleofmudd" post="1072376" timestamp="1317610722"]
This is a tough one. Speed versus Discipline. Normally one would think speed makes up for talent, Ozen has talent and speed, deadly combination. However, Vidor has size, disciplined and well coached offense, tough to defend. I see Vidor keeping the ball out of the the speed and talented Ozen backs hand by long drives and a lot of clock chew. My prediction, Vidor 28-Ozen 24
[/quote]Right your predic :-[My predic is vid to slow PANNTHERS roll over them ;D
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[quote name="puddleofmudd" post="1072376" timestamp="1317610722"]
This is a tough one. Speed versus Discipline. Normally one would think speed makes up for talent, Ozen has talent and speed, deadly combination. However, Vidor has size, disciplined and well coached offense, tough to defend. I see Vidor keeping the ball out of the the speed and talented Ozen backs hand by long drives and a lot of clock chew. My prediction, Vidor 28-Ozen 24
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I guess my question is how do you figure that Ozen is less disciplined than Vidor is?
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What was wrong with the poll that the Vidorians made?
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Thats the same question i'm asking. I'm guessing they didn't like the fact that we were leading in that poll so they started to make one of there own but it looks like it didn't work.  ;D  8)
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[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1072386" timestamp="1317611287"]
[quote author=puddleofmudd link=topic=89204.msg1072376#msg1072376 date=1317610722]
This is a tough one. Speed versus Discipline. Normally one would think speed makes up for talent, Ozen has talent and speed, deadly combination. However, Vidor has size, disciplined and well coached offense, tough to defend. I see Vidor keeping the ball out of the the speed and talented Ozen backs hand by long drives and a lot of clock chew. My prediction, Vidor 28-Ozen 24
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I guess my question is how do you figure that Ozen is less disciplined than Vidor is?
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Is Vidor disciplined because they are slow or is Ozen to fast to be disciplined, confusing?
However I think your a little bit wrong on both cases, both teams are well coached, have speed and are disciplined, this is a good match up with playoff implications and will come down to the wire, but I do like your prediction Vidor 24---- Ozen 21
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Actually, if you go by two generally accepted measures of discipline, penalties and turnovers, you might have a hard time saying that Vidor is more disciplined.  Through 5 games, Ozen has been flagged 32 times for 271 yards and has turned the ball over 5 times.  Through 5 games, Vidor has been flagged 31 times for 250 yards and has turned the ball over 7 times.

As for team speed, Ozen might have a bit more speed, but Vidor is by no means devoid of it.  Quirante has some good speed as does Smallwood and Bolinger (if Coach Mathews lied to David Henry and he does indeed play on Friday).  Even Clark was some surprising speed.

So the big edges one way or the other, really don't play out as huge edges in reality.
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Actaully, if you go by two generally accepted measures of discipline, penalties and turnovers, you might have a hard time saying that Vidor is more disciplined.  Through 5 games, Ozen has been flagged 32 times for 271 yards and have turned the ball over 5 times.  Through 5 games, Vidor has been flagged 31 times for 250 yards and have turned the ball over 7 times.

As for team speed, Ozen might have a bit more speed, but Vidor is by no means devoid of it.  Quirante has some good speed as does Smallwood and Bolinger (if Coach Mathews lied to David Henry and he does indeed play on Friday).  Even Clark was some surprising speed.

So the big edges one way or the other, really don't play out as huges edges in reality.
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GREAT POST WOS GRAD...
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Thanks for clearing that up for those who tend to forget what discipline is in terms of football.....I still say Ozen will take this one and that's my opinion.

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1072647" timestamp="1317659466"]
Actaully, if you go by two generally accepted measures of discipline, penalties and turnovers, you might have a hard time saying that Vidor is more disciplined.  Through 5 games, Ozen has been flagged 32 times for 271 yards and have turned the ball over 5 times.  Through 5 games, Vidor has been flagged 31 times for 250 yards and have turned the ball over 7 times.

As for team speed, Ozen might have a bit more speed, but Vidor is by no means devoid of it.  Quirante has some good speed as does Smallwood and Bolinger (if Coach Mathews lied to David Henry and he does indeed play on Friday).  Even Clark was some surprising speed.

So the big edges one way or the other, really don't play out as huges edges in reality.
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[quote author=puddleofmudd link=topic=89204.msg1072376#msg1072376 date=1317610722]
This is a tough one. Speed versus Discipline. Normally one would think speed makes up for talent, Ozen has talent and speed, deadly combination. However, Vidor has size, disciplined and well coached offense, tough to defend. I see Vidor keeping the ball out of the the speed and talented Ozen backs hand by long drives and a lot of clock chew. My prediction, Vidor 28-Ozen 24
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I guess my question is how do you figure that Ozen is less disciplined than Vidor is?
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My question is...Why do you appear to be so worried about it?
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[quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=89204.msg1072386#msg1072386 date=1317611287]
[quote author=puddleofmudd link=topic=89204.msg1072376#msg1072376 date=1317610722]
This is a tough one. Speed versus Discipline. Normally one would think speed makes up for talent, Ozen has talent and speed, deadly combination. However, Vidor has size, disciplined and well coached offense, tough to defend. I see Vidor keeping the ball out of the the speed and talented Ozen backs hand by long drives and a lot of clock chew. My prediction, Vidor 28-Ozen 24
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I guess my question is how do you figure that Ozen is less disciplined than Vidor is?
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My question is...Why do you appear to be so worried about it?
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Because the facts don't fit the description.
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[quote author=JollyRoger81 link=topic=89204.msg1072916#msg1072916 date=1317683298]
[quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=89204.msg1072386#msg1072386 date=1317611287]
[quote author=puddleofmudd link=topic=89204.msg1072376#msg1072376 date=1317610722]
This is a tough one. Speed versus Discipline. Normally one would think speed makes up for talent, Ozen has talent and speed, deadly combination. However, Vidor has size, disciplined and well coached offense, tough to defend. I see Vidor keeping the ball out of the the speed and talented Ozen backs hand by long drives and a lot of clock chew. My prediction, Vidor 28-Ozen 24
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I guess my question is how do you figure that Ozen is less disciplined than Vidor is?
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My question is...Why do you appear to be so worried about it?
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Because the facts don't fit the description.
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I want to meet a team of disciplined teenagers...
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[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1072647" timestamp="1317659466"]
Actually, if you go by two generally accepted measures of discipline, penalties and turnovers, you might have a hard time saying that Vidor is more disciplined.  Through 5 games, Ozen has been flagged 32 times for 271 yards and has turned the ball over 5 times.  Through 5 games, Vidor has been flagged 31 times for 250 yards and has turned the ball over 7 times.

As for team speed, Ozen might have a bit more speed, but Vidor is by no means devoid of it.  Quirante has some good speed as does Smallwood and Bolinger (if Coach Mathews lied to David Henry and he does indeed play on Friday).  Even Clark was some surprising speed.

So the big edges one way or the other, really don't play out as huge edges in reality.
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You know the sad part is that when Powell is in the backfield as QB he is the fastest they got by a long shot.  The funny thing is that people havent figured that out yet.  Got to love media.  He is the only one on the defensive side that can run somebody down.  Yes it happenin the Ozen game last year also.  Let him get into the open field on offense and see what happens.  ::)
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and he can throw the ball.
[/quote]Who cares yall  still to slow
    [b]OZEN[/b]-42
    vid aka they wish-10
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Just look at the polls. Thats all i'm gonna say.
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[quote name="Le Sgt Rey (French)" post="1072947" timestamp="1317686189"]
[quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=89204.msg1072931#msg1072931 date=1317684516]
[quote author=JollyRoger81 link=topic=89204.msg1072916#msg1072916 date=1317683298]
[quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=89204.msg1072386#msg1072386 date=1317611287]
[quote author=puddleofmudd link=topic=89204.msg1072376#msg1072376 date=1317610722]
This is a tough one. Speed versus Discipline. Normally one would think speed makes up for talent, Ozen has talent and speed, deadly combination. However, Vidor has size, disciplined and well coached offense, tough to defend. I see Vidor keeping the ball out of the the speed and talented Ozen backs hand by long drives and a lot of clock chew. My prediction, Vidor 28-Ozen 24
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I guess my question is how do you figure that Ozen is less disciplined than Vidor is?
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My question is...Why do you appear to be so worried about it?
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Because the facts don't fit the description.
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I want to meet a team of disciplined teenagers...
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yeah what he said
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[quote author=bmtqj33 link=topic=89204.msg1073025#msg1073025 date=1317694062]
[quote author=CANeyePLAYtoo link=topic=89204.msg1072961#msg1072961 date=1317687529]
and he can throw the ball.
[/quote]Who cares yall  still to slow
    [b]OZEN[/b]-42
    vid aka they wish-10
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Just look at the polls. Thats all i'm gonna say.
[/quote]Polls dont matter look at the OZEN/LCM poll like I said to slow gm over before it starts ;D
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[quote name="Le Sgt Rey (French)" post="1072947" timestamp="1317686189"]
[quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=89204.msg1072931#msg1072931 date=1317684516]
[quote author=JollyRoger81 link=topic=89204.msg1072916#msg1072916 date=1317683298]
[quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=89204.msg1072386#msg1072386 date=1317611287]
[quote author=puddleofmudd link=topic=89204.msg1072376#msg1072376 date=1317610722]
This is a tough one. Speed versus Discipline. Normally one would think speed makes up for talent, Ozen has talent and speed, deadly combination. However, Vidor has size, disciplined and well coached offense, tough to defend. I see Vidor keeping the ball out of the the speed and talented Ozen backs hand by long drives and a lot of clock chew. My prediction, Vidor 28-Ozen 24
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I guess my question is how do you figure that Ozen is less disciplined than Vidor is?
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My question is...Why do you appear to be so worried about it?
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Because the facts don't fit the description.
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I want to meet a team of disciplined teenagers...
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You've already seen them. The Katy Tigers. 22 penalties for 193 yards and the starting QB has yet to throw a pic through 5 games.
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