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[quote name="KFDM KERRY COOPER" post="921523" timestamp="1290986147"]
From Coach Dyer WO-S Returning starters

9 on Defense

7 on Offense
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Then explain how 14 different WOS seniors made all-district. 13 of these players were starters leaving just 9 other starters and yet they have 16 returning starters. HOW????
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21-AAA District Team Captain          
Reggie Garrett (U)   12 QB 6'4 190 Sr. WOS
               
District MVP              
Mark Roberts   18 WR 6'3 180 Sr. WOS**
               
Offensive MVP              
Matt Menard   12 QB 6' 205 Jr. BC
               
Defensive MVP              
Donovan Rubin (U)   51 DT 6'1 220 Sr. WOS **                
Newcomer of the Year          
Joe Lynch (U) (Def) 41 LB 5'9 165 So. WOS
Jimmy Salter (U) (Off) 8 QB 5'8 150 So. WOS
               
Coach of the Year            
Dan Hooks WOS                
             
1st Team All-District Offense          
Kelson McDaniel 3 QB 5'10 175 Sr. Sils.
Evan Guidry 20 RB 5'6 150 Sr. OF
Jarrion Rhone 7 RB 5'9 165 Sr. Sils.
Britton Lindsey 43 RB 5'5 155 Jr. WOS
Darius Mitchell (U) 3 WR 5'9 165 Sr. WOS**
Cameron Dishon (U) 24 WR 5'11 170 Jr. BC
Prentice Lane 9 WR 6'2 175 Sr. Sils.
Sadion Vallery (U) 11 WR 6'1 200 Sr. HJ
Logan Moss 33 TE 6'3 195 Sr. OF
Colby Landry 68 C 6'2 230 Sr. OF
Matthew Baldree (U) 74 OL 6' 185 Sr. Sils.
Justin Petry (U) 72 OL 6'1 245 Sr. WOS**
Luke Domas 62 OL 6' 200 Sr. WOS **
Joe Persohn 52 OL 6'3 235 Jr. HJ
Bryson Banks 65 OL 6'1 230 Jr. BC
Corey Cargill 77 OL 6'6 295 Sr. OF
Devin Bertrand 14 K 5'10 145 Sr. BC
               
               
2nd Team All-District Offense    
     
Quinton Evans 12 QB 6'1 185 Sr. OF
Hunter Clark 32 RB 5'10 165 Jr. BC
Will Anderson 7 RB 6'2 205 Sr. HJ
Josh Shores 21 RB 5'11 175 Sr. OF
Darius Robinson 2 RB 5'6 160 Sr. WOS**
Kelton Gaines 5 WR 5'8 160 Jr. Sils.
Trevor Bell 1 WR 5'8 165 Jr. HF
Darrion Turk 10 WR 5'8 160 Jr. Sils.
Derek Ledet 88 WR 6'2 150 Jr. WOS
Parker James 15 TE 5'11 175 Sr. OF
Shane Stankus 64 C 6'1 225 Sr. BC
Bret Treadway 58 OL 6'3 235 Jr. Sils.
Donovan Weldon 55 OL 5'9 180 Sr. OF
Robert Gooding 68 OL 5'10 215 Sr. WOS**
Brandon Richard 59 OL 6'3 195 Sr. WOS**
Thomas Luce 62 OL 5'8 240 Sr. BC
Bryce Crew 89 K 5'9 140 Sr. WOS**
               

               
1st Team All-District Defense
         
Lawrence Gilmore (U) 52 NG 5'11 210 Jr. WOS
Evander Guillory (U) 67 DL 5'10 195 Sr. WOS**
Shane Stankus (U) 64 DL 6'1 225 Sr. BC
Willie Busby (U) 55 DL 6' 195 Sr. Sils.
Logan Moss (U) 33 DL 6'3 195 Sr. OF
Jacob Keefer (U) 14 ILB 6' 195 Jr. Sils.
Daniel Woodson (U) 49 ILB 5'10 185 So. WOS
Brenson Lindsey 44 ILB 5'10 180 Sr. WOS**
Wilson Washington (U) 16 OLB 5'7 150 Sr. WOS**
Josh Ozio 23 OLB 5'11 160 Sr. BC
Colin Janice 21 OLB 5'10 170 Sr. WOS**
Justin Thomas (U) 5 DB 5'9 160 Jr. WOS
DeCarlos Renfro (U) 13 DB 5'10 165 Jr. WOS
Jarrian Rhone (U) 7 DB 5'8 165 Sr. Sils.
Taywan Lucas 27 DB 5'10 165 Jr. WOS
Sadion Vallery 11 DB 6'2 200 Sr. HJ
Mitchell Hubbard 22 DB 6'1 170 Jr. BC
Quinton Evans 12 P 6' 185 Sr. OF
               
               
2nd Team All-District Defense      
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Jake Best 67 NG 6' 190 Jr. OF
Sterling Deslatte 76 DL 6'2 210 Jr. OF
Dillon Trahan 50 DL 6'1 240 Jr. BC
Matthew Baldree 74 DL 6' 185 Sr. Sils.
Robert Redd 19 DL 6'2 205 Jr. WOS
Will Anderson 7 ILB 6'2 205 Sr. HJ
Josh Shores 21 ILB 5'11 180 Sr. OF
Zach Cole 45 ILB 5'10 180 So. BC
Trevor Christopher 31 OLB 5'10 165 Sr. HJ
Stephen Tanton 34 OLB 5'11 170 Sr. Sils.
Rylan Cook 3 OLB 5'8 165 Jr. OF
Cameron Dishon 24 DB 5'11 170 Jr. BC
Tommie Barrett 2 DB 5'9 165 Sr. Sils.
Garrett Drake 27 DB 6'2 175 Jr. Sils.
Tyler Roberts 11 DB 6'3 190 Jr. BC
Quinton Evans 12 DB 6' 185 Sr. OF
Will Anderson 7 P 6'2 205 Sr. HJ
               
               
Kick Return Specialist          
Trevor Bell 1   5'8 165 Jr. HF
               
Punt Return Specialist          
Nathaniel Colbert 25   5'8 160 So. WOS


(** denotes WOS seniors)


Now, by these calculations, WOS will lose 7 starters on offense, 5 on defense. At the most, the Mustangs will have 10-11 returning starters, not 16.
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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="921549" timestamp="1290988006"]
21-AAA District Team Captain           
Reggie Garrett (U)   12 QB 6'4 190 Sr. WOS
                 
District MVP               
Mark Roberts   18 WR 6'3 180 Sr. WOS**
                 
Offensive MVP               
Matt Menard   12 QB 6' 205 Jr. BC
               
Defensive MVP               
Donovan Rubin (U)   51 DT 6'1 220 Sr. WOS **                 
Newcomer of the Year           
Joe Lynch (U) (Def) 41 LB 5'9 165 So. WOS
Jimmy Salter (U) (Off) 8 QB 5'8 150 So. WOS
                 
Coach of the Year             
Dan Hooks WOS               
               
1st Team All-District Offense           
Kelson McDaniel 3 QB 5'10 175 Sr. Sils.
Evan Guidry 20 RB 5'6 150 Sr. OF
Jarrion Rhone 7 RB 5'9 165 Sr. Sils.
Britton Lindsey 43 RB 5'5 155 Jr. WOS
Darius Mitchell (U) 3 WR 5'9 165 Sr. WOS**
Cameron Dishon (U) 24 WR 5'11 170 Jr. BC
Prentice Lane 9 WR 6'2 175 Sr. Sils.
Sadion Vallery (U) 11 WR 6'1 200 Sr. HJ
Logan Moss 33 TE 6'3 195 Sr. OF
Colby Landry 68 C 6'2 230 Sr. OF
Matthew Baldree (U) 74 OL 6' 185 Sr. Sils.
Justin Petry (U) 72 OL 6'1 245 Sr. WOS**
Luke Domas 62 OL 6' 200 Sr. WOS **
Joe Persohn 52 OL 6'3 235 Jr. HJ
Bryson Banks 65 OL 6'1 230 Jr. BC
Corey Cargill 77 OL 6'6 295 Sr. OF
Devin Bertrand 14 K 5'10 145 Sr. BC
                 
                 
2nd Team All-District Offense     
       
Quinton Evans 12 QB 6'1 185 Sr. OF
Hunter Clark 32 RB 5'10 165 Jr. BC
Will Anderson 7 RB 6'2 205 Sr. HJ
Josh Shores 21 RB 5'11 175 Sr. OF
Darius Robinson 2 RB 5'6 160 Sr. WOS**
Kelton Gaines 5 WR 5'8 160 Jr. Sils.
Trevor Bell 1 WR 5'8 165 Jr. HF
Darrion Turk 10 WR 5'8 160 Jr. Sils.
Derek Ledet 88 WR 6'2 150 Jr. WOS
Parker James 15 TE 5'11 175 Sr. OF
Shane Stankus 64 C 6'1 225 Sr. BC
Bret Treadway 58 OL 6'3 235 Jr. Sils.
Donovan Weldon 55 OL 5'9 180 Sr. OF
Robert Gooding 68 OL 5'10 215 Sr. WOS**
Brandon Richard 59 OL 6'3 195 Sr. WOS**
Thomas Luce 62 OL 5'8 240 Sr. BC
Bryce Crew 89 K 5'9 140 Sr. WOS**
                 

                 
1st Team All-District Defense
           
Lawrence Gilmore (U) 52 NG 5'11 210 Jr. WOS
Evander Guillory (U) 67 DL 5'10 195 Sr. WOS**
Shane Stankus (U) 64 DL 6'1 225 Sr. BC
Willie Busby (U) 55 DL 6' 195 Sr. Sils.
Logan Moss (U) 33 DL 6'3 195 Sr. OF
Jacob Keefer (U) 14 ILB 6' 195 Jr. Sils.
Daniel Woodson (U) 49 ILB 5'10 185 So. WOS
Brenson Lindsey 44 ILB 5'10 180 Sr. WOS**
Wilson Washington (U) 16 OLB 5'7 150 Sr. WOS**
Josh Ozio 23 OLB 5'11 160 Sr. BC
Colin Janice 21 OLB 5'10 170 Sr. WOS**
Justin Thomas (U) 5 DB 5'9 160 Jr. WOS
DeCarlos Renfro (U) 13 DB 5'10 165 Jr. WOS
Jarrian Rhone (U) 7 DB 5'8 165 Sr. Sils.
Taywan Lucas 27 DB 5'10 165 Jr. WOS
Sadion Vallery 11 DB 6'2 200 Sr. HJ
Mitchell Hubbard 22 DB 6'1 170 Jr. BC
Quinton Evans 12 P 6' 185 Sr. OF
                 
                 
2nd Team All-District Defense     
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Jake Best 67 NG 6' 190 Jr. OF
Sterling Deslatte 76 DL 6'2 210 Jr. OF
Dillon Trahan 50 DL 6'1 240 Jr. BC
Matthew Baldree 74 DL 6' 185 Sr. Sils.
Robert Redd 19 DL 6'2 205 Jr. WOS
Will Anderson 7 ILB 6'2 205 Sr. HJ
Josh Shores 21 ILB 5'11 180 Sr. OF
Zach Cole 45 ILB 5'10 180 So. BC
Trevor Christopher 31 OLB 5'10 165 Sr. HJ
Stephen Tanton 34 OLB 5'11 170 Sr. Sils.
Rylan Cook 3 OLB 5'8 165 Jr. OF
Cameron Dishon 24 DB 5'11 170 Jr. BC
Tommie Barrett 2 DB 5'9 165 Sr. Sils.
Garrett Drake 27 DB 6'2 175 Jr. Sils.
Tyler Roberts 11 DB 6'3 190 Jr. BC
Quinton Evans 12 DB 6' 185 Sr. OF
Will Anderson 7 P 6'2 205 Sr. HJ
                 
                 
Kick Return Specialist           
Trevor Bell 1   5'8 165 Jr. HF
                 
Punt Return Specialist           
Nathaniel Colbert 25   5'8 160 So. WOS


(** denotes WOS seniors)


Now, by these calculations, WOS will lose 6 starters on offense, 5 on defense. At the most, the Mustangs will have 11-12 returning starters, not 16.
[/quote] Must have been some younger guys that played alot. Just posting what i was told.
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Look, I am not denying that WOS will be any good next year. I think they will have a very good team. But let's call it what it is. You cannot continue to have 16, 19, 16 returning starters every year for the past several years, it just doesn't add up. You also cannot count players who saw playing time as returning starters if they never started.

WOS has 17 seniors leaving the team, 12 of which were starters (not even counting Reggie), that does not calculate to 16 starters or 90% of the team returning. Let's get our facts straight, Kerry.
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I broadcast 3 of their games this year and attended another. I was given rosters each game with the starters marked on them. I checked them at the start of each game. According to those games I did, the facts I have stated are correct. According to the all-district lists, it matches the rosters and starters I have.

Kerry, you cannot convince me that WOS has more than 10-12 starters returning based on these numbers. Sure can't convince me of that "90% returning" statement you made on that game thread of BR.
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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="921567" timestamp="1290989195"]
I broadcast 3 of their games this year and attended another. I was given rosters each game with the starters marked on them. I checked them at the start of each game. According to those games I did, the facts I have stated are correct. According to the all-district lists, it matches the rosters and starters I have.

Kerry, you cannot convince me that WOS has more than 10-12 starters returning based on these numbers. Sure can't convince me of that "90% returning" statement you made on that game thread of BR.
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Can't believe I'm saying this but I agree. If anything we have that many kids returning that played. Cannot be starters if we had that many Sr. make all district. It just isn't possible. We may have that many returning just not necessarily starters.

Did I just agree with AAW? lol
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[quote name="bh89-2" post="920981" timestamp="1290917685"]
I agree,[b] PNG won't be squat[/b], the same with everyone else except Livingston.

BH will have 22 or 23 returning.  That's number depends on how much effort Stewart puts forth to recruit Townley away from BH (watch what happens here folks).  Denny (Freshman starting QB) will be returning as a Sophmore and be a stud if he stays healthy.  Got some real talent moving up to fill bench spots and a starting spot here and there.  The lines should be loaded again.  We will win district next year and get past the area round.     
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But most likely still able to scalp the Hill...as usual.
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[quote name="KHS 89" post="921598" timestamp="1290991821"]
[quote author=bh89-2 link=topic=76703.msg920981#msg920981 date=1290917685]
I agree,[b] PNG won't be squat[/b], the same with everyone else except Livingston.

BH will have 22 or 23 returning.  That's number depends on how much effort Stewart puts forth to recruit Townley away from BH (watch what happens here folks).  Denny (Freshman starting QB) will be returning as a Sophmore and be a stud if he stays healthy.  Got some real talent moving up to fill bench spots and a starting spot here and there.  The lines should be loaded again.  We will win district next year and get past the area round.     
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But most likely still able to scalp the Hill...as usual.
[/quote]yea, keep the pink shirt pressed :D
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[quote name="bh89-2" post="920981" timestamp="1290917685"]
I agree, PNG won't be squat, the same with everyone else except Livingston.

BH will have 22 or 23 returning.  That's number depends on how much effort Stewart puts forth to recruit Townley away from BH (watch what happens here folks).  Denny (Freshman starting QB) will be returning as a Sophmore and be a stud if he stays healthy.  Got some real talent moving up to fill bench spots and a starting spot here and there.  The lines should be loaded again.  We will win district next year and get past the area round.     
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I am really curious to see what happens with Townley. I know he was looking at the end of the summer last year. This will be interesting unless he wants to stay and play baseball for Denny.
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It all starts up front. This is were PNG will have the biggest challenge in replacing. If you can believe it PNG may actually big bigger up front on offense with Nicotre (6'2 260) Reasons (6'4" 270) Stasinos (6'5" 250), not sure who will fill in the other two spots, but those three are big.
The losses will be tuff because they were key leaders like Lunceford and Langois on the OL and Easley, Thompson and Schexneider on D.
And anytime you have to replace a record setting QB like Doty, it's tough!

Returning players
*2010 Starters: 8 (3 Offense - 5 Defense)
** 2010 Significant PT: 6 (3 Offense - 3 Defense)
WR *Nelson - WR **Lacour - OT *Nicotre - OG Reasons - C ?? - OG ?? - OT **Stasinos - HB **Hanks - WR ??
                                                                     QB Miller - RB *Bertrand

CB **Hollier - DE *Davis - DT ?? - DE **Grantham - CB ??
OLB *Louviere - MLB ?? - S/LB *Peveto - OLB **Segler
                   S *Sperl - S *Romero
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I am not defending anyone, but i will say this...

3 of the players on that list are RB's:

Mitchell (Sr)
Robinson (Sr)
Lindsey (Jr)

We run the spread and our base offense has 1 RB and AAW you know that Lindsey would be considered the "starter". So there are 2 Sr's that would not be considered "starters" on offense.

On defense, Lindsey (Sr), Woodson (So) and Lynch (So) were all LB's and they had a three man rotation in the 50 defense which has only 2 LB's on the field. Even though Lindsey played a bunch, the 2 Sophomore's actually started the games. So theres another senior you can knock off the list.

Also, Colin Janice is a Sophomore not a Senior, so there's another.

I don't know what that makes the count, but it is something I know about the kids on that list.
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Nederland will have 10 returners on defense they started 5 to 6 sophmores 3 junoirs and 2 senoirs most times 1 senoir. Offense  we will need to replace RG,RT LG,QB, and 3 receivers and the linemen will be the biggest question. Qb will be Carson Raines. The  receivers will be a big question too but have some  good talent  moving up. Nederland should be ok but I wish they would diversify the  offense and get away from the spread but hey I am just  a ffan not a coach.
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[quote name="Gasilla" post="921703" timestamp="1290999754"]
I am not defending anyone, but i will say this...

3 of the players on that list are RB's:

Mitchell (Sr)
Robinson (Sr)
Lindsey (Jr)

We run the spread and our base offense has 1 RB and AAW you know that Lindsey would be considered the "starter". So there are 2 Sr's that would not be considered "starters" on offense.

On defense, Lindsey (Sr), Woodson (So) and Lynch (So) were all LB's and they had a three man rotation in the 50 defense which has only 2 LB's on the field. Even though Lindsey played a bunch, the 2 Sophomore's actually started the games. So theres another senior you can knock off the list.

Also, Colin Janice is a Sophomore not a Senior, so there's another.

I don't know what that makes the count, but it is something I know about the kids on that list.
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At least that makes some sense. Either way, regardless what the number of returners are, they will be fun to watch again next year.
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[quote name="badndn" post="921701" timestamp="1290999672"]
It all starts up front. This is were PNG will have the biggest challenge in replacing. If you can believe it PNG may actually big bigger up front on offense with Nicotre (6'2 260) Reasons (6'4" 270) Stasinos (6'5" 250), not sure who will fill in the other two spots, but those three are big.
The losses will be tuff because they were key leaders like Lunceford and Langois on the OL and Easley, Thompson and Schexneider on D.
And anytime you have to replace a record setting QB like Doty, it's tough!

Returning players
*2010 Starters: 8 (3 Offense - 5 Defense)
** 2010 Significant PT: 6 (3 Offense - 3 Defense)
WR *Nelson - WR **Lacour - OT *Nicotre - OG Reasons - C ?? - OG ?? - OT **Stasinos - HB **Hanks - WR ??
                                                                     QB Miller - RB *Bertrand

CB **Hollier - DE *Davis - DT ?? - DE **Grantham - CB ??
OLB *Louviere - MLB ?? - S/LB *Peveto - OLB **Segler
                   S *Sperl - S *Romero
[/quote]On the D side, you have Mangini (soph this year) big kid, fast. He played DE on JV. Had a lot of sacks. He practiced with varsity. The DT, there are a couple of strong big kids on the JV who were very good at DT who will fit in very well. I see our D rotating alot of players in on the D line next year. With the size coming up they may adjust the D line to a 4 man line. Also we had a freshman on varsity who played in the secondary. Very fast. I also heard there may be some transfers moving into PNG district come Jan 11. One a big O lineman from Vidor. Another from our neighbors. So hard to say, but I see PNG with a more stout D next year with alot more speed.
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Well let's see Huffman will lose A LOT to graduation. QB top 3 wrs entire Oline all of the secondary atleast 2 LBs and a couple Dlineman are all gone. They only bright spot will be we return both RBs one who was just a Fr and we have acouple of jrs who can throw the ball pretty good they just have no game experince. From what I head the jv did very good losing only 1 game to Kpark. Next year will be determined by how coach mac fills the positions lost. There is still plenty of talnet just not as much experince. I predict we will be in the playoffs again probably 2nd or 3rd depending on if cleveland can turn it around or if Liberty can capatilize on all of their young talent. Coldspring is the favorite to repeat as district champs.
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[quote name="Cougtalk" post="920912" timestamp="1290916458"]
[quote author=BRONX ROX link=topic=76703.msg920527#msg920527 date=1290904998]
DAYTON won district 7th - Varsity this year. ;) NUFF SAID
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Incorrect you lost 9th grade district, you had 2 ties the cougs only had 1 we won district.
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Dayton Freshmen won district by one half of a game.  Crosby had one loss and one tie and Dayton had no losses and two ties.
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