Roy Halladay Question??

[PhatMack19]

A friend posted this on FB:


Where does Halladay rank among the great modern pitchers: Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Schilling, Beckett, Johnson, and Clemens?


Roy still has some years left to catch up with those guys numbers.  If he hadn't been hidden in Canada for all of those years, this argument may be a little different.

[Ty Cobb]

I think he's right up there with those greats that you named.  Sure, his numbers aren't the same but you expect him to win every time he is on the mound just as you expected Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Schilling, Beckett, Johnson, and Clemens to win.  He's a true #1 and does what #1's do.  He gives his team a chance to win with quality outings.

[ForeverADog]

You have to put him up there and in front of half those guys. For the past dozen years he has been one of the top 5 pitchers in the league EVERY year!

[bullets13]

he could still pitch for 7 or 8 more years if he wanted.  he's got at least another 2-3 years in his prime, but even when he's out of his prime, he's going to be a top-20 pitcher in this league.

[EAGLE07]

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You have to put him up there and in front of half those guys. For the past dozen years he has been one of the top 5 pitchers in the league EVERY year!
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yep...

[bobcatfan]

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A friend posted this on FB:


Where does Halladay rank among the great modern pitchers: Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Schilling, [b]Beckett[/b], Johnson, and Clemens?


Roy still has some years left to catch up with those guys numbers.  If he hadn't been hidden in Canada for all of those years, this argument may be a little different.
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I'm sorry, but Beckett doesnt belong on the list of guys you just mentioned.  Beckett just finished his 9th full season and has only racked up 112 wins and only has pitched 30 starts 3 times in his career.  Beckett is not reliable during the regular season, he's always hurt.  Beckett is hyped because he had a few excellent postseasons, but you have to do more than that in the regular season to be considered an all time great.  I would replace him with Roy Oswalt, who entered the league around the same time and is 150-83 and a career era thats almost a full run lower.  Since he's entered the league, he ranks top 5 in wins, era, winning %.  

To answer your question though, its always about longevity for the HOF, but Roy Halladay is definitely on a fast track to the Hall of Fame.  If he contributes to a Phillies World Series win, and can have about 3-4 more really good seasons, hes a lock for the HOF.

[Guest jhamilton]

Ten Fo on Beckett and Roy H can bring the cheese. Be interesting to see what Roy O does over the next year now being in large media market.

[Guest (13)]

Don't know but Giants #8 hitter, Posey, blasted 2 bombs on him tonight and helped "The Freak" take game one of the ALCS vs. Halladay.