Lastmar?

[westendfirst]

I'm trying to come up with a new name to put on the bag that I wear on my head for the next men's home game.  Any suggestions?  I've come up with a few:  Lastmar, Losemar, Can'tinals, Big Ded,

How about a Who Dat chant?  "Who dat?  Who dat?  Who dat talking 'bout [u]losing [/u] to them Cardinals, who dat!"

"Lastmar to thee we're singing, voices heard on low...."

[westendfirst]

[quote name="westendfirst" post="763071" timestamp="1266642234"]
I'm trying to come up with a new name to put on the bag that I wear on my head for the next men's home game.  Any suggestions?  I've come up with a few:  Lastmar, Losemar, Can'tinals, Big Ded,

How about a Who Dat chant?  "Who dat?  Who dat?  Who dat talking 'bout [u]losing [/u] to them Cardinals, who dat!"

"Lastmar to thee we're singing, voices heard on low...."
[/quote]

Or maybe this chant  "We're number 256, we're number 256...."

http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cbsend.htm

[bullets13]

lame-mar.  tardinals.  yeah, i'd definitely go with tardinals.

[Bucof2010]

We are the tardinals my friend and we'll keep looking towards next year

[LU Baseball Fan]

oh my maybe we should call you the fair weather birds.....or maybe the negative x cardinal fans  or just maybe who cares what you think

[westendfirst]

[quote name="bullets13" post="763078" timestamp="1266642589"]
lame-mar.  tardinals.  yeah, i'd definitely go with tardinals.
[/quote]

The Tardinals...now that's a good one!

[HouTexan]

[quote name="westendfirst" post="763075" timestamp="1266642533"]
[quote author=westendfirst link=topic=66293.msg763071#msg763071 date=1266642234]
I'm trying to come up with a new name to put on the bag that I wear on my head for the next men's home game.  Any suggestions?  I've come up with a few:  Lastmar, Losemar, Can'tinals, Big Ded,

How about a Who Dat chant?  "Who dat?  Who dat?  Who dat talking 'bout [u]losing [/u] to them Cardinals, who dat!"

"Lastmar to thee we're singing, voices heard on low...."
[/quote]

Or maybe this chant  "We're number 256, we're number 256...."

http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cbsend.htm



[/quote]
263 now...getting worse

[bullets13]

[quote name="LU Baseball Fan" post="763872" timestamp="1266819988"]
oh my maybe we should call you the fair weather birds.....or maybe the negative x cardinal fans  or just maybe who cares what you think
[/quote]

we are the tardinals, the mighty mighty tardinals.

[UNLV]

Lamar beat Ark st by 21, Ark st is ranked 60 higher than LU.
LU beat Rice and Tulane yet they rank higher. It's all about the Conference.

[LumberCard]

[quote name="UNLV" post="767323" timestamp="1267228585"]
Lamar beat Ark st by 21, Ark st is ranked 60 higher than LU.
LU beat Rice and Tulane yet they rank higher. It's all about the Conference.
[/quote]

It's not all about the conference. If we were winning hand over fist and still ranked in the mid to high 100's I would agree. But We have to take some of the blame because our basketball program is just not that good. Swallow your pride and admit it. The Southland Conference is NOT our biggest problem. Probably not even top 5 on the list.

[UNLV]

[quote name="LumberCard" post="767643" timestamp="1267246903"]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767323#msg767323 date=1267228585]
Lamar beat Ark st by 21, Ark st is ranked 60 higher than LU.
LU beat Rice and Tulane yet they rank higher. It's all about the Conference.
[/quote]

It's not all about the conference. If we were winning hand over fist and still ranked in the mid to high 100's I would agree. But We have to take some of the blame because our basketball program is just not that good. Swallow your pride and admit it. The Southland Conference is NOT our biggest problem. Probably not even top 5 on the list.
[/quote]A better conference yield better recruits. A better conference get better exposure. The SLC has one ncaa win in the last 10 years. Hang around losers makes you a loser.

[bullets13]

if they quit consistently losing to other losers, they'd climb up the rankings.  hopefully they'll get it straightened out next year.

[LumberCard]

[quote name="UNLV" post="767742" timestamp="1267279688"]
[quote author=LumberCard link=topic=66293.msg767643#msg767643 date=1267246903]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767323#msg767323 date=1267228585]
Lamar beat Ark st by 21, Ark st is ranked 60 higher than LU.
LU beat Rice and Tulane yet they rank higher. It's all about the Conference.
[/quote]

It's not all about the conference. If we were winning hand over fist and still ranked in the mid to high 100's I would agree. But We have to take some of the blame because our basketball program is just not that good. Swallow your pride and admit it. The Southland Conference is NOT our biggest problem. Probably not even top 5 on the list.
[/quote]A better conference yield better recruits. A better conference get better exposure. The SLC has one ncaa win in the last 10 years. Hang around losers makes you a loser.
[/quote]

If you haven't been paying attention, we are the losers holding the others in this conference back. Your words not mine. Your thinking is ridiculous. We are about to miss the conference tourney for the second straight year, unless we get a miracle finish. And your argument is that the "losers" that keep beating us are the ones holding us back?

Why don't you look at budgets and the overall facilities of out athletics programs (Ty Terrell track is the biggest joke in the SLC and is worse than most high school facilities and for the product that had been placed on the field for the tenure of the staff, there is no way Vincent Beck should be as SAD as it is) and you might just realize we are way further behind than many of the "losers" in the SLC. You're so quick to blame everyone else for why Lamar is struggling, but you seem to refuse to place blame on the shoulders that deserve it the most. The admin at Lamar is a joke and thngs are not going to get better until the right decisions are being made all the way across the board and not just for one or two sports.

[UNLV]

[quote name="LumberCard" post="768438" timestamp="1267410141"]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767742#msg767742 date=1267279688]
[quote author=LumberCard link=topic=66293.msg767643#msg767643 date=1267246903]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767323#msg767323 date=1267228585]
Lamar beat Ark st by 21, Ark st is ranked 60 higher than LU.
LU beat Rice and Tulane yet they rank higher. It's all about the Conference.
[/quote]

It's not all about the conference. If we were winning hand over fist and still ranked in the mid to high 100's I would agree. But We have to take some of the blame because our basketball program is just not that good. Swallow your pride and admit it. The Southland Conference is NOT our biggest problem. Probably not even top 5 on the list.
[/quote]A better conference yield better recruits. A better conference get better exposure. The SLC has one ncaa win in the last 10 years. Hang around losers makes you a loser.
[/quote]

If you haven't been paying attention, we are the losers holding the others in this conference back. Your words not mine. Your thinking is ridiculous. We are about to miss the conference tourney for the second straight year, unless we get a miracle finish. And your argument is that the "losers" that keep beating us are the ones holding us back?

Why don't you look at budgets and the overall facilities of out athletics programs (Ty Terrell track is the biggest joke in the SLC and is worse than most high school facilities and for the product that had been placed on the field for the tenure of the staff, there is no way Vincent Beck should be as SAD as it is) and you might just realize we are way further behind than many of the "losers" in the SLC. You're so quick to blame everyone else for why Lamar is struggling, but you seem to refuse to place blame on the shoulders that deserve it the most. The admin at Lamar is a joke and thngs are not going to get better until the right decisions are being made all the way across the board and not just for one or two sports.

[/quote]And one of those correct decision would be to move out the SLC.

[Bucof2010]

Can the college choose to change conference that easily

[Guest coachacola]

[quote name="Bucof2010" post="768474" timestamp="1267415356"]
Can the college choose to change conference that easily
[/quote]

Obviously it's easier to move down to a crappy conference (like LU did when the moved from the Sun Belt to the Southland) than it is to move to a better one.  Lamar really lost ground in the 90s and they are just now upgrading their athletic facilities.  New $3.8 million soccer field and field house.  $28 million renovations to stadium and field house.  New turf, lockers, indoor hitting facility for baseball with $5 million in upgraded planned for Vincent-Beck.  Softball field is probably next on the list.  Getting all these done takes time and money but that should enable Lamar to jump to a better conference.

[Bucof2010]

Do the other schools vote to let you in?

[westendfirst]

[quote name="LumberCard" post="767643" timestamp="1267246903"]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767323#msg767323 date=1267228585]
Lamar beat Ark st by 21, Ark st is ranked 60 higher than LU.
LU beat Rice and Tulane yet they rank higher. It's all about the Conference.
[/quote]

It's not all about the conference. If we were winning hand over fist and still ranked in the mid to high 100's I would agree. But We have to take some of the blame because our basketball program is just not that good. Swallow your pride and admit it. The Southland Conference is NOT our biggest problem. Probably not even top 5 on the list.
[/quote]

You are absolutely correct.

[westendfirst]

[quote name="UNLV" post="768453" timestamp="1267413285"]
[quote author=LumberCard link=topic=66293.msg768438#msg768438 date=1267410141]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767742#msg767742 date=1267279688]
[quote author=LumberCard link=topic=66293.msg767643#msg767643 date=1267246903]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767323#msg767323 date=1267228585]
Lamar beat Ark st by 21, Ark st is ranked 60 higher than LU.
LU beat Rice and Tulane yet they rank higher. It's all about the Conference.
[/quote]

It's not all about the conference. If we were winning hand over fist and still ranked in the mid to high 100's I would agree. But We have to take some of the blame because our basketball program is just not that good. Swallow your pride and admit it. The Southland Conference is NOT our biggest problem. Probably not even top 5 on the list.
[/quote]A better conference yield better recruits. A better conference get better exposure. The SLC has one ncaa win in the last 10 years. Hang around losers makes you a loser.
[/quote]

If you haven't been paying attention, we are the losers holding the others in this conference back. Your words not mine. Your thinking is ridiculous. We are about to miss the conference tourney for the second straight year, unless we get a miracle finish. And your argument is that the "losers" that keep beating us are the ones holding us back?

Why don't you look at budgets and the overall facilities of out athletics programs (Ty Terrell track is the biggest joke in the SLC and is worse than most high school facilities and for the product that had been placed on the field for the tenure of the staff, there is no way Vincent Beck should be as SAD as it is) and you might just realize we are way further behind than many of the "losers" in the SLC. You're so quick to blame everyone else for why Lamar is struggling, but you seem to refuse to place blame on the shoulders that deserve it the most. The admin at Lamar is a joke and thngs are not going to get better until the right decisions are being made all the way across the board and not just for one or two sports.

[/quote]And one of those correct decision would be to move out the SLC.
[/quote]

I believe if you recall the downfall started about the same time we decided we were too good for the SLC and we left for the Sun Belt.  Also, it was the same time football was whacked.  We were going to have all these funds to really focus on our awesome basketball team.  It has been one failure after another since then.  Ok, we may have had a fluke season ending run once but other than that...el stinko!  And, yes, we are about to miss the conference tourney. 

Franklin screwed it up for everyone.  Who was after him?  Mclaughlin?  I think Simmons and Tubbs finally have us headed on the right track but they've got 15 plus years of disasters to make up for. 

[UNLV]

[quote name="westendfirst" post="768926" timestamp="1267492292"]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg768453#msg768453 date=1267413285]
[quote author=LumberCard link=topic=66293.msg768438#msg768438 date=1267410141]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767742#msg767742 date=1267279688]
[quote author=LumberCard link=topic=66293.msg767643#msg767643 date=1267246903]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767323#msg767323 date=1267228585]
Lamar beat Ark st by 21, Ark st is ranked 60 higher than LU.
LU beat Rice and Tulane yet they rank higher. It's all about the Conference.
[/quote]

It's not all about the conference. If we were winning hand over fist and still ranked in the mid to high 100's I would agree. But We have to take some of the blame because our basketball program is just not that good. Swallow your pride and admit it. The Southland Conference is NOT our biggest problem. Probably not even top 5 on the list.
[/quote]A better conference yield better recruits. A better conference get better exposure. The SLC has one ncaa win in the last 10 years. Hang around losers makes you a loser.
[/quote]

If you haven't been paying attention, we are the losers holding the others in this conference back. Your words not mine. Your thinking is ridiculous. We are about to miss the conference tourney for the second straight year, unless we get a miracle finish. And your argument is that the "losers" that keep beating us are the ones holding us back?

Why don't you look at budgets and the overall facilities of out athletics programs (Ty Terrell track is the biggest joke in the SLC and is worse than most high school facilities and for the product that had been placed on the field for the tenure of the staff, there is no way Vincent Beck should be as SAD as it is) and you might just realize we are way further behind than many of the "losers" in the SLC. You're so quick to blame everyone else for why Lamar is struggling, but you seem to refuse to place blame on the shoulders that deserve it the most. The admin at Lamar is a joke and thngs are not going to get better until the right decisions are being made all the way across the board and not just for one or two sports.

[/quote]And one of those correct decision would be to move out the SLC.
[/quote]

I believe if you recall the downfall started about the same time we decided we were too good for the SLC and we left for the Sun Belt.  Also, it was the same time football was whacked.  We were going to have all these funds to really focus on our awesome basketball team.  It has been one failure after another since then.  Ok, we may have had a fluke season ending run once but other than that...el stinko!  And, yes, we are about to miss the conference tourney. 

Franklin screwed it up for everyone.  Who was after him?  Mclaughlin?  I think Simmons and Tubbs finally have us headed on the right track but they've got 15 plus years of disasters to make up for. 
[/quote]This screwups was not because we left the SLC...Hence La Tech, UNT, ULL, Ark st

[LU Baseball Fan]

[quote name="LumberCard" post="768438" timestamp="1267410141"]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767742#msg767742 date=1267279688]
[quote author=LumberCard link=topic=66293.msg767643#msg767643 date=1267246903]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767323#msg767323 date=1267228585]
Lamar beat Ark st by 21, Ark st is ranked 60 higher than LU.
LU beat Rice and Tulane yet they rank higher. It's all about the Conference.
[/quote]

It's not all about the conference. If we were winning hand over fist and still ranked in the mid to high 100's I would agree. But We have to take some of the blame because our basketball program is just not that good. Swallow your pride and admit it. The Southland Conference is NOT our biggest problem. Probably not even top 5 on the list.
[/quote]A better conference yield better recruits. A better conference get better exposure. The SLC has one ncaa win in the last 10 years. Hang around losers makes you a loser.
[/quote]

If you haven't been paying attention, we are the losers holding the others in this conference back. Your words not mine. Your thinking is ridiculous. We are about to miss the conference tourney for the second straight year, unless we get a miracle finish. And your argument is that the "losers" that keep beating us are the ones holding us back?

Why don't you look at budgets and the overall facilities of out athletics programs (Ty Terrell track is the biggest joke in the SLC and is worse than most high school facilities and for the product that had been placed on the field for the tenure of the staff, there is no way Vincent Beck should be as SAD as it is) and you might just realize we are way further behind than many of the "losers" in the SLC. You're so quick to blame everyone else for why Lamar is struggling, but you seem to refuse to place blame on the shoulders that deserve it the most. The admin at Lamar is a joke and thngs are not going to get better until the right decisions are being made all the way across the board and not just for one or two sports.

[/quote]

This administration has done more for our athletic programs than any other.  There have been a lot of improvements made since Jimmy Simmons took over in 1999.  The main problem is MONEY!!!  We have had some big donations lately and that is  helped.  There is a long "want list" and as money comes available improvements are being made.  Just since Will graduated in 06 Vincent Beck has improved 3 fold.  The field is great, (wish we could finish and do the outfield in turf).  The locker rooms have been totally redone.  The hitting facility will be wonderful - thanks to Henry Strait.  The neglect of our programs in the 80s and 90s cannot be undone in a few years.  Give Jimmy time and our facilities will get up to speed.  But the "admin at Lamar" is far from being a Joke.

[Crazy Card Fan]

Jimmy Simmons has had a great impact on the University, and I believe he is focused on strengthening the athletics programs.
HOWEVER, Billy Tubbs has been an absentee athletic director who appears more interested in his gold handicap than running an athletics program.
The best you could say about him is that he's Laisse fare....
There's very few people in the current athletics administration who are leaders in there field, and there is certainly no clear and realistic goal for the Cardinals as they try to improve the program.

The main problem here is a lack of leadership. Pure, Plain, and Simple.

[westendfirst]

[quote name="LU Baseball Fan" post="771104" timestamp="1267779127"]
[quote author=LumberCard link=topic=66293.msg768438#msg768438 date=1267410141]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767742#msg767742 date=1267279688]
[quote author=LumberCard link=topic=66293.msg767643#msg767643 date=1267246903]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767323#msg767323 date=1267228585]
Lamar beat Ark st by 21, Ark st is ranked 60 higher than LU.
LU beat Rice and Tulane yet they rank higher. It's all about the Conference.
[/quote]

It's not all about the conference. If we were winning hand over fist and still ranked in the mid to high 100's I would agree. But We have to take some of the blame because our basketball program is just not that good. Swallow your pride and admit it. The Southland Conference is NOT our biggest problem. Probably not even top 5 on the list.
[/quote]A better conference yield better recruits. A better conference get better exposure. The SLC has one ncaa win in the last 10 years. Hang around losers makes you a loser.
[/quote]

If you haven't been paying attention, we are the losers holding the others in this conference back. Your words not mine. Your thinking is ridiculous. We are about to miss the conference tourney for the second straight year, unless we get a miracle finish. And your argument is that the "losers" that keep beating us are the ones holding us back?

Why don't you look at budgets and the overall facilities of out athletics programs (Ty Terrell track is the biggest joke in the SLC and is worse than most high school facilities and for the product that had been placed on the field for the tenure of the staff, there is no way Vincent Beck should be as SAD as it is) and you might just realize we are way further behind than many of the "losers" in the SLC. You're so quick to blame everyone else for why Lamar is struggling, but you seem to refuse to place blame on the shoulders that deserve it the most. The admin at Lamar is a joke and thngs are not going to get better until the right decisions are being made all the way across the board and not just for one or two sports.

[/quote]

This administration has done more for our athletic programs than any other.  There have been a lot of improvements made since Jimmy Simmons took over in 1999.  The main problem is MONEY!!!  We have had some big donations lately and that is  helped.  There is a long "want list" and as money comes available improvements are being made.  Just since Will graduated in 06 Vincent Beck has improved 3 fold.  The field is great, (wish we could finish and do the outfield in turf).  The locker rooms have been totally redone.  The hitting facility will be wonderful - thanks to Henry Strait.  The neglect of our programs in the 80s and 90s cannot be undone in a few years.  Give Jimmy time and our facilities will get up to speed.  But the "admin at Lamar" is far from being a Joke.
[/quote]

Agree.  Don't know about Henry Strait but I agree with what you have to say about the neglect in the 80's and 90's and the great strides made by Jimmy Simmons.

As for basketball, "we're number 279, we're number 279, we're number 279!"

[Spanky]

[quote name="westendfirst" post="768926" timestamp="1267492292"]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg768453#msg768453 date=1267413285]
[quote author=LumberCard link=topic=66293.msg768438#msg768438 date=1267410141]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767742#msg767742 date=1267279688]
[quote author=LumberCard link=topic=66293.msg767643#msg767643 date=1267246903]
[quote author=UNLV link=topic=66293.msg767323#msg767323 date=1267228585]
Lamar beat Ark st by 21, Ark st is ranked 60 higher than LU.
LU beat Rice and Tulane yet they rank higher. It's all about the Conference.
[/quote]

It's not all about the conference. If we were winning hand over fist and still ranked in the mid to high 100's I would agree. But We have to take some of the blame because our basketball program is just not that good. Swallow your pride and admit it. The Southland Conference is NOT our biggest problem. Probably not even top 5 on the list.
[/quote]A better conference yield better recruits. A better conference get better exposure. The SLC has one ncaa win in the last 10 years. Hang around losers makes you a loser.
[/quote]

If you haven't been paying attention, we are the losers holding the others in this conference back. Your words not mine. Your thinking is ridiculous. We are about to miss the conference tourney for the second straight year, unless we get a miracle finish. And your argument is that the "losers" that keep beating us are the ones holding us back?

Why don't you look at budgets and the overall facilities of out athletics programs (Ty Terrell track is the biggest joke in the SLC and is worse than most high school facilities and for the product that had been placed on the field for the tenure of the staff, there is no way Vincent Beck should be as SAD as it is) and you might just realize we are way further behind than many of the "losers" in the SLC. You're so quick to blame everyone else for why Lamar is struggling, but you seem to refuse to place blame on the shoulders that deserve it the most. The admin at Lamar is a joke and thngs are not going to get better until the right decisions are being made all the way across the board and not just for one or two sports.

[/quote]And one of those correct decision would be to move out the SLC.
[/quote]

I believe if you recall the downfall started about the same time we decided we were too good for the SLC and we left for the Sun Belt.  Also, it was the same time football was whacked.  We were going to have all these funds to really focus on our awesome basketball team.  It has been one failure after another since then.  Ok, we may have had a fluke season ending run once but other than that...el stinko!  And, yes, we are about to miss the conference tourney. 

Franklin screwed it up for everyone.  Who was after him?  Mclaughlin?  I think Simmons and Tubbs finally have us headed on the right track but they've got 15 plus years of disasters to make up for. 
[/quote]

Dr. Bill Franklin was president of Lamar University while George McLaughlin was chancellor of the now non existent Lamar University system.