TORRES IS READY TO SHUT MAYWEATHER UP

[Guest baseball25]

This is just stupid, I mean Boxing and MMA is totally 2 different sports, Mayweather would kill torres in Boxing and Torres would beat Mayweather in in MMA, but there is always a puncher chance so that leans towards Mayweather but I mean Boxing is a science and its tough to do and I amnot going to get in this debate because I like Boxing better and always will.

WEC bantamweight champion Miguel Torres is looking for a fight, and it's nothing against his current opponent, Brian Bowles, but he believes a boxing champion needs to step up and compete in the true fighting art before he smack talks a sport that is sweeping the world.

Recently, former pound-for-pound boxing king Floyd Mayweather Jr., in an interview with CBS Sports, hounded the sport of MMA saying it was for "beer drinkers" and the reason the sport was created was because "there's no white fighters in boxing that's dominating." Torres, who proudly hails from a Hispanic background, is ready to prove Mayweather wrong and he's ready any time, any place.

"I'm not going to lie, I don't talk a lot of (expletive). I did an interview for ESPN and they told me what (Mayweather) had done. I hadn't heard his comment before that, but I heard that he was talking garbage about mixed martial arts, and he was being pretty racist on certain subjects, and that made me kind of angry because I love boxing. I grew up watching boxing," Torres said in a recent interview with MMAWeekly.com.

"I haven't watched a ton of Mayweather's fights. I know he's a good boxer. I've seen him on 24/7 a couple of times. That's the most I've seen of him, but he's very flamboyant, he's very cocky, he's a bit of a prick, and I think he's broke now because of whatever financial reason he has, but you can't talk about a complete fighter when you're not a complete fighter yourself."

Torres has respect for what Mayweather has accomplished in his own sport, but believes that he would be a pawn in the game of chess that is mixed martial arts.

"I know he has a great camp and he's lightning quick and has knockout power, but I think in a real fight, in a mixed martial arts fight he wouldn't stand a chance against a mid-level MMA fighter, a B-level fighter, or even a wrestler at that because he'd get taken down in a heartbeat," Torres commented.

Still, Mayweather may continue to talk so Torres is ready to throw out the challenge to the boxer turned pro-wrestler turned boxer, who at one time actually did consider a move to MMA after retiring from his own sport.

"I'd be the first one at my weight class to say I'd fight Mayweather, anywhere, any way he wants. If he hears this, whatever he wants to do," stated Torres. "We can even do modified kind of rules, we can box for three rounds, do kickboxing for three rounds, and then fight MMA for three rounds. I would even do something like that so he could have a little more confidence.

"I think it's totally wrong for any boxer to call out a mixed martial artist. Because you have so many different variables that are going to go on in a fight."

The tendency for boxers to lash out at mixed martial arts seems to be a proven formula for athletes in the "sweet science" to get headlines from the sport that has been dominating the pay-per-view market over the last few years. Torres admits that boxing is a dying breed and taking pot shots at MMA may just be that they are trying to hit one last Hail Mary punch on the way down.

"It's fear and it's a lack of knowledge. They're so stuck in their small world they have no idea what they're talking about," said Torres. "Even boxing fans that are huge fans of boxing, they're talking to me about 'well, if you were a real fighter you'd box,' I'm like, are you serious? I tried with guys who just boxed, and if I give them a hard time just boxing, imagine if I could kick, elbow, and take them to the ground, it would be a totally different fight."

With Torres scheduled for his next title bout on Aug. 9, and Mayweather slated to return to boxing in September, nobody should hold their breath that these two will ever see each other in a mixed martial arts fight, but the WEC champion still dreams of a day when he could finally silence "Money Mayweather."

"The times that I've watched him box is to want to watch him lose, because I just didn't like his attitude and the way he acted very much," Torres said. "He's never going to change. I think the only way he will change is if he steps in the cage and gets his mouth shut."

[silentassasin]

I tend to agree with Torres, most of the boxers (not all) who bash MMA are not ever going to get in the cage. Most would lose, not because they can't hit hard because we all know that can. But a true MMA fighter is not going to play into a boxer's forte which is his hands. Most of them are going to test his ground game and sprawl ability and try to submit them or ground and pound them.

Mayweather if a bit nuts if he says that MMA is only around because white fighters can't dominate boxing. There has not been many white champions in most of the weight classes since Marciano. Boxing has been and will continue to be dominated in this country by the Latino and African-American fighters. White kids do not grow up, except in inner cities, boxing or fighting as a way out of their situations. They grow up playing baseball and football and now soccer. Mayweather is showing his ignorance here. I say that if he thinks that MMA is not that hard or that big of a deal then he should call up Dana White and say I want to fight in the cage against your best guy available. No middle of the ground rules. Straight MMA rules applied. If he does not train for the ground game and wants to straight box let him, he will lose if he does. But what I think will happen is that he will do the smart thing and get a real camp together of his boxing coach, a Muay Thai guy and a BJJ/wrestling guy to show him the stuff he needs to learn. he will then see what real MMA guys go through in preparation for fights and for less money than boxers btw and learn some respect. The outcome of the fight will be a win win for the fans either way. He fights and loses and then the MMA world grows because an MMA guy shut him up. He wins the fight but and this is a huge but, he admits based on his training a new respect for MMA and in which case it cause MMA to grow even more.

[Guest baseball25]

mercer Ko'ed sylvia lol, I am telling if they don't get the Boxer on the ground the MMA guy is done....

[silentassasin]

But the same goes the other way, if the MMA guy gets it to the ground then the boxer is toast.

[Guest baseball25]

yeah but all it take is one punch, a boxer can learn how to stop a take downs a whole lot easier than what a mma guy can learn how to box...

[Bucof2010]

I like boxing a lot more and honestly I think ufc is just a fad that nobody will be talking about in a few years.

[JoshD]

silentassasin there is no point for mayweather to take this fight as he can make waaay more boxing.  He wouldnt get an mma camp together and focus all his time on mma like you're talking about because there is no point and no reward. which is why any top boxer is not likely to cross over because there is no point.  In a way mayweather has a small point but I dont agree with him entirely.  But the only reaon he is saying stuff right now anyways is just to get attention because he has a fight coming up.  He doesn't care if people tune in to see him lose as long as they tune in.  There have been a few mma fighters who were boxers first but could not make it big so they switched to mma like marcus davis.  

Ray Mercer might have gotten a little lucky against sylvia but Sylvia was a former UFC champion!!! If the roles were reversed I don't think you'd ever see a boxer as high profile as sylvia lose in a boxing match.  In my opinion Boxing still has a better talent pool in it's respective sport, but I guess it's to be expected as mma in the 'mainstream' america and ufc is still relatively new.

As far as buc saying mma is a fad and wont be talked about in a few years, I somewhat agree but have to disagree as well.  I think once MMA gets older and has been around a while it's newness will wear off and it wont be the next big thing so it wont be as big as it is now.  However I dont think it will die, and I don't think boxing will die.  I think they will both be around for a long time. MMA is okay and I can get into it sometimes but I also like boxing better.

[silentassasin]

I like boxing a lot more and honestly I think ufc is just a fad that nobody will be talking about in a few years.

That statement is about as moronic as I have ever heard.

First off the UFC is one of a few MMA (the sport) organizations. It stopped being a fad around the year 2003. The first version was a fad and had limited capability of growing for various reasons like no rules, weight classes along with the squeamish nature of most of conservative America.

The current version of MMA the sport as presented by groups such as the UFC as well as Strikeforce and the smaller groups in America as well as in Japan is a much better product and is not a fad. The UFC was bought by the Fertita brothers for 2 million and the latest numbers on them has their company alone being worth nearly or just over a billion dollars. Other groups like the local guys putting on shows are the breeding ground for the talent that the big boys are signing. You can go to a show in a lot of states now, whereas it was banned in most before. Like Dana White said once, porn is on PPV but at one point you could not watch the UFC or any MMA events on PPV.

For you guys that sit there and say you like boxing more I say Great. You can not truly compare the two sports because the skill with the hands at striking is unparalled in boxing compared to MMA but only because MMA fighters have to concentrate on more than one type of attack. I would get great with my hands too if I did not have to worry about being taken down and having my neck choked or my arm potentially broken. Just like a wrestler has to learn to use his hand to punch and block when he first gets into MMA a straight boxer (no matter how great) would have to learn some BJJ or submission wrestling skills along with some kicking skills. I am not saying that Mayweather needs to become an Olympic level wrestler or a blackbelt from the Gracie academy to become an MMA guy. But to use the one punch can land works both ways. I mean I have boxed before with the headgear and gloves and it still hurt. I have also hit the bags with the 4 oz. MMA gloves and it is no comparison how much harder I felt the hit myself. I also have gotten punched by both sets of gloves and the lighter ones hurt more, and boxing gloves hurt more than people think. I feel like someone like an Anderson Silva could beat a boxer of equal status in a straight MMA event. Where the boxer would dominate him in a straight boxing match. You guys are right that a boxer will not make a camp like he should but that is because most of them are too arrogant to give the respect due to MMA that it deserves. I find it funny that you don't catch the MMA guys going and saying stuff like they could kill a champion boxer. WHy, it is not because they are not confident but it is because most of them respect the boxers for the dedication it took to get them to the top of their chosen sport.

My main point is that instead of trying to get the hooplah from running his mouth Mayweather should give true MMA training a try and see if he can find it somewhere in his greatness to learn that he should respect the kind of training it takes the MMA champs to get to their top levels. I also want to point out that Sylvia was the champ but only because he won a vacated belt, not from someone the first time, and I believe that was because Barnett or some other fighter possibly left and vacated the title. People who come out and say things that put down MMA guys are not recognizing the true athleticism that it takes to do this stuff. I am a former wrestler who had to hear from the straight football guys that if I was a real man I would drop the other sport I was doing and get real. I would then challenge them to go through a workout and watch them puke their guts out after five minutes of warming up. Same with this. I am not trying to say that a boxer could not be successful but rather that if they actually took the time to truly investigate things that they would learn something.

Sorry to ramble but have heard these same dumb arguements for over 20 years with the wrestling and now the last 10 or so with MMA. Ticks me off.

[Bucof2010]

I like boxing a lot more and honestly I think ufc is just a fad that nobody will be talking about in a few years.

That statement is about as moronic as I have ever heard.

First off the UFC is one of a few MMA (the sport) organizations. It stopped being a fad around the year 2003. The first version was a fad and had limited capability of growing for various reasons like no rules, weight classes along with the squeamish nature of most of conservative America.

The current version of MMA the sport as presented by groups such as the UFC as well as Strikeforce and the smaller groups in America as well as in Japan is a much better product and is not a fad. The UFC was bought by the Fertita brothers for 2 million and the latest numbers on them has their company alone being worth nearly or just over a billion dollars. Other groups like the local guys putting on shows are the breeding ground for the talent that the big boys are signing. You can go to a show in a lot of states now, whereas it was banned in most before. Like Dana White said once, porn is on PPV but at one point you could not watch the UFC or any MMA events on PPV.

For you guys that sit there and say you like boxing more I say Great. You can not truly compare the two sports because the skill with the hands at striking is unparalled in boxing compared to MMA but only because MMA fighters have to concentrate on more than one type of attack. I would get great with my hands too if I did not have to worry about being taken down and having my neck choked or my arm potentially broken. Just like a wrestler has to learn to use his hand to punch and block when he first gets into MMA a straight boxer (no matter how great) would have to learn some BJJ or submission wrestling skills along with some kicking skills. I am not saying that Mayweather needs to become an Olympic level wrestler or a blackbelt from the Gracie academy to become an MMA guy. But to use the one punch can land works both ways. I mean I have boxed before with the headgear and gloves and it still hurt. I have also hit the bags with the 4 oz. MMA gloves and it is no comparison how much harder I felt the hit myself. I also have gotten punched by both sets of gloves and the lighter ones hurt more, and boxing gloves hurt more than people think. I feel like someone like an Anderson Silva could beat a boxer of equal status in a straight MMA event. Where the boxer would dominate him in a straight boxing match. You guys are right that a boxer will not make a camp like he should but that is because most of them are too arrogant to give the respect due to MMA that it deserves. I find it funny that you don't catch the MMA guys going and saying stuff like they could kill a champion boxer. WHy, it is not because they are not confident but it is because most of them respect the boxers for the dedication it took to get them to the top of their chosen sport.

My main point is that instead of trying to get the hooplah from running his mouth Mayweather should give true MMA training a try and see if he can find it somewhere in his greatness to learn that he should respect the kind of training it takes the MMA champs to get to their top levels. I also want to point out that Sylvia was the champ but only because he won a vacated belt, not from someone the first time, and I believe that was because Barnett or some other fighter possibly left and vacated the title. People who come out and say things that put down MMA guys are not recognizing the true athleticism that it takes to do this stuff. I am a former wrestler who had to hear from the straight football guys that if I was a real man I would drop the other sport I was doing and get real. I would then challenge them to go through a workout and watch them puke their guts out after five minutes of warming up. Same with this. I am not trying to say that a boxer could not be successful but rather that if they actually took the time to truly investigate things that they would learn something.

Sorry to ramble but have heard these same dumb arguements for over 20 years with the wrestling and now the last 10 or so with MMA. Ticks me off.

Good shot at fooling us big guy but I watched the same tv show as you last night that you quoted word for word.

[Guest baseball25]

dude Mayweather could train easy, he is a great athlete man, guys that are great athletes can figure it out, Mayweather if he trained for a yr for mma the guy would be pretty damn good.

[silentassasin]

No actually Bu the statement that DAna said on the show last night was a replay of the show the same channel did over a year ago. And White has made that same statement on more than that venue. I do not base my opinions on what is said on a TV program. I base it on years of being a fan of both boxing and MMA, and having done part of one of the disciplines that goes into MMA. AS well as being friends with guys who have participated in both sports.

And, "Big Guy", I quoted one line from one thing that Dana said. I did not post anything else from the program. If I was going to do that I would have mentioned how the UFC has been a total shark and that the parts of the program where they showed Trump and Cuban backing the Affliction cards was not valid anymore and something should have been said about their going under.

Baseball you are making the point that I am trying to. I believe that a fighter like Mayweather IF he trained for a year just learning the basics of the grappling game and striking with the legs through Muay Thai would be good at it. He would have an edge in the boxing and for sure he would probably rely on it due to his prior experience the same as Matt Hughes relied more on his wrestling ability to get guys on the ground. But Hughes became a student of submissions and BJJ to give himself another facet to use. I also think that the opposite of the Mayweather situation is true. I believe you could take a guy like Anderson Silva or GSP and have them train with a straight boxing coach for a year and they would be a successful fighter in that sport as well. I believe that these guys in both sports are given a little extra something by God that makes them good at fighting and I respect guys from both sports who choose to train and get good at which ever one they choose. But they should respect the other sport and not try and use it to get their own hype up.

And another point Buc, I could care less if you think I am some guy who jumped on the bandwagon, not the case because I have watched the UFC and other MMA fights once I was made aware of it since the first UFC tournament. People said rap was a fad too back in the day and now it is one of the biggest money makers in music. People said that the DH was a horrible idea for baseball but it is still here isn't it. The XFL was a fad, the USFL was a fad (although it stayed around longer than I thought it would). MMA is not a fad. Now I will say that the sport is growing due to the fact that it is marketed to a younger crowd and I am the first to say that the young Bucs of the world who don't know much of the sport other than what they see on The Ultimate Fighter or the occasional UFC Unleashed will either grow to appreciate what goes into MMA training and become more of a student of it as I did or they may just get into it for the violence. But how is that any different than a boxing fan. I can tell you that I got introduced to fighting because of Marvin Hagler back in the day and then it grew with Tyson. I have tremendous respect and love for boxing. I love to watch fighing of any kind because I respect any man or woman who can say I will go into a cage, ring or whatever and stand there and trade strikes with another person and may the better fighter win. I am not that brave, I don't like getting punched without gear on to cover my already ugly mug.

I just happen to like MMA more than boxing but respect both.

[UT#1]

baseball when you said a boxer could learn to stop a takedown  easier than a MMA guy could learn to box its a lot more to making the boxing MMA transition .. clinches dont get pulled apart you have to watch their feet along with their hands.. and one of the biggest things ive noticed at some smaller shows is that the size of the gloves make a HUGE difference its a lot harder to block punches with 4 ounce gloves than 8 or 12s not to mention taking punches with them

[Guest baseball25]

It takes one punch to knock someone out, just ask tim sylvia what happen to him against Ray mercer, All I am saying is someone like Mayweather a gifted great athlete he could learn MMA in a yr it would be just like Lesnar, Lesnar is a great athlete and quick learner, Mayweather would be the same way, he would have to learn how to defend a take down and submission and etc but GREAT athletes LEARN quick, and I'll say this right now I got 3 or 4 guys that do mma and they have always told me it would be alot harder for them to become a boxer than a mma fighter, they told me that in front of my own eyes, Boxing is a science man.

[silentassasin]

BJJ, wrestling, Muay Thay and every other fighting sport are all sciences baseball. This bullcorn of calling boxing and only boxing a science is outdated.

have you every trained in any of the fighting arts, if you have then you would know that they are all sciences to an extent. BJJ as well as judo and wrestling are all about using leverage against your opponent and all the striking forms like boxing, karate, hapkido etc. are all very difficult to master.

The only reason why MMA guys say boxing is harder, and i have heard similar things baseball, is because with boxing you are constantly working on only one aspect of fighting. Most MMA guys I know enjoy working in all the disciplines while having a favorite one that depends on what they are better at. For example, I was a wrestler and have learned a little BJJ from guys that i know that have taken it. I would hate to have to box because I would be thinking about how I could shoot for this guys legs and get him to the ground and pound him out or submit him.

I am definitely not saying Mayweather could not possibly be successful in MMA, I am more about that all fighters need to learn to respect the other types of athletes out there instead of trying to spout off at the mouth to get some more interest in their career. Face it MMA shows, especially the UFC ones are making money big time and boxing promoters are not scared necessarily but rather they are ticked at having to compete for the dollars of the American and foreign public that they once owned exclusively pretty much. Now MMA shows are raking in big bucks and celebs are showing up at their shows like they used to do very often at the big fights like when Tyson or Leonard or people like that fought. It is kind of like the NFL. Noone has really been able to find a product that can compete successfully with the NFL, which is why the UFL won't last. I feel like boxing promoters felt the same way and now that Dana and other MMA promoters have done what was necessary to keep the animal alive, MMA is no longer the upstart. They are now a player that boxing and boxers need to recognize.

[UT#1]

how is using lesnar as an example helping make your point baseball?? but anyways you said you said you ha 3 or 4 friends that were fighters i myself am a mma fighter and ive been in one boxing bout after i started mma it is a science and mayweather might be a good fighter BUT i believe it would be equally as hard for an mma fighter to box as it would be for a boxer to do MMA or BJJ....... but back to topic i would love to see torres fight mayweather think it would be an awesome fight no matter under what rules they decided on torres IMO is very close to being the best pound for pound fighter in the world...

[Guest baseball25]

guys do yall realize I have buddies that are mma fighters and they tell me it is alot harder to become a good boxer, then to become a good MMA fighter, Boxing is a science guys, if MMA was so hard then how come you see these guys on Ultimate fighter get so good in a 2 yr span, Forrest, Rashad, ETC, because its not has hard as you think its because they are good atheltes, Boxing is a science and MMA guys believe that, It takes more than 2 years to become a elite boxing, try like atleast 10 years, thats why you see everyone trying to do MMA these days because boxing you just can't go out there and do it, go out there and box a gold glove champion and go fight a mma guy thats good, you got a better chance in knocking the MMA guy out than the boxer, the boxer will hit you 20 times before you know it, atleast in MMA you have a chance, if you get someone on the ground and etc....Brock came ufc champion in 2 yrs, I would like to see him beat the Klitsckos in boxing it isn't going to happen....

[silentassasin]

Horrible example baseball. Most of the guys who go on TUF have been fighting already for a few years before going on the show including Rashad. One of the few that had no experience was Matt Hamill, another one was a few years ago and he was a lightweight and lied to the producers about how many fights he had.

Brock Lesnar is an exception to the rule to MMA and most people realize it.

Again, I am going to stand by and say that if someone in MMA of the caliber of a GSP or Silva trains straight boxing he would reach a high level very quickly. It is comparing apples and oranges.

[Guest baseball25]

It takes alot longer in boxing to sharpen your skills,reaction, and speed, Pure athletes only need 2 yrs of training  to make a big impact in mma....GSP could train boxing for 5 years and he would get killed by bernard hopkins, Jermain taylor,Joe calzaghe, Glenn Johnson, Chad Dawson and etc, I mean mayweather and pacman they are 140 pounds and would dominate in 170 pound guy in mma in boxing, I mean a boxer already has there stand up skills and now if they work on take down offense, Jui jitsu skills for 2 yrs  they got a very good chance to compete at a high level in mma, Like i said I have friends that do mma and they tell me straight up that look at lesnar it took him 2 years to win the UFC belt against guys that have been doing this for 15 years, they said do you think lesnar could compete at a high level in the heavyweight divison in boxing in 2 years hell no, Lesnar would get hit 30 times in 30 seconds and wouldn't know what hit him, I  mean I love MMA and boxing I don't miss any fights, and I am not favoring one, but when I have.buddies tell me boxing is harder to learn and adjust too I am going to give yall there thoughts.

[Guest baseball25]

boxing is number 1 here's a good article   http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills

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[Bucof2010]

1 round of boxing would leave %95 of the mma guys gasping mma doesn't take half the conditioning that boxing does.

[UT#1]

no it doesnt a boxing match might take more conditioning but taking punches and stopping takedowns and grappling takes more energy than standing up in boxing... baseball i am a fighter myself so quit using your friends statements to defend it.... both disciplines are very tough to master and you can makee arguments for either side but torres would destroy mayweather in an mma fight and the same for the opposite.... and buc mma is not a fad it started a long time ago and is just starting to peak youve made some very ignorant statements..

[Guest baseball25]

dude man your a goofball you really are, I just told you I got buddies that fight and been doing for a long time and I am just telling you what theyhave told me and they say boxing is harder, do you know boxing is alot dangerous than mma did you know that, do you know boxers throw more than 500 punches in a fight, I know Torres would destroy him rightnow he would but if youhad torres train for boxing for 2 years to fight mayweather in boxing torres still gets killed, if you have mayweather train for MMA for 2 straight years, you couldn't count out mayweathe in beating him since mayweather is already a great athlete and a great on his feet thats what I am trying to say, I just gave you the results of what researchers said what was tougher and harder it doesn't get much better than that, and why wouldn't I use my friends statements because they are fighters too and been doing it for a long time, I have nothing against MMA I love it but Boxing is a harder sport.

[UT#1]

i didnt say it took more energy but less conditioning i was sayin boxing might take more conditioning because it lasts 8 or more rounds but as individual rounds go MMA would take more energy...and baseball i know boxing is more dangerous but if torres trained in strictly boxing for 2 years i think he would suprise you he does have some of a boxing background.... i love both sports i just dont think you can compare them in any aspect with so many differences i just think mayweather should watch what he says hes the one that threw the 1st punch in this debate

[Guest baseball25]

DO YOU REALIZE HOW GOOD MSTWEATHE IS

[Bucof2010]

DO YOU REALIZE HOW GOOD MSTWEATHE IS

Homey is a self proclaimed expert no point in arguing.