Birthright Citizenship

[SmashMouth]

On 7/1/2026 at 1:20 PM, OlDawg said:

It was basically 5-4 on the Birthright Citizenship via the 14th. Kavanaugh said birthright citizenship didn't come from the 14th, but from a previous Law passed by Congress, and that made the EO illegal. So, he was in the minority opinion (4) along with Gorsuch, Alito, and Thomas on that issue. He left an avenue in his split decision that would have allowed Congress to pass another Law defining citizenship without needing an Amendment because--in his view--the 14th didn't grant automatic birthright citizenship.

Like I said, 6/3. Based on constitutional law. 

[Porter]

 

[OlDawg]

4 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

Like I said, 6/3. Based on constitutional law. 

Kavanaugh did not rule the EO was unconstitutional. Kavanaugh ruled it violated a previous Statute, and that Statute could be modified. But, the EO couldn’t take effect due to the Statute—not because of the Constitution or any Amendment.

Justice Kavanaugh disagreed with the majority’s constitutional holding, but he concluded that Trump’s executive order violated a federal statute, 8 U.S.C. §1401(a). “Congress could—consistent with the Fourteenth Amendment—amend §1401(a) or otherwise enact new legislation establishing exceptions to birthright citizenship for children born to foreign citizens unlawfully or temporarily in the country. But Congress has not yet done so.”

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So, effectively, the ruling was 6-3 to deny the implementation of the EO. But, not because of the Constitution in Kavanaugh’s decision.

[Porter]

 

[UT alum]

On 6/30/2026 at 4:38 PM, thetragichippy said:

and it will be the next Roe versus Wade.....and be overturned, or amended - or they will pass new immigration laws that require pregnancy test and restrict to 6 month stays....

It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that our enemy countries can send over pregnant females to have babies, go back to their country, create terrorist, and they come back as US citizens....and kill us

This ruling may be a winner for Republicans to run against for mid terms.....this feels like an 80/20 to me

Roe vs. Wade overturned a prior court decision. Birthright citizenship is part of the Constitution. There is no comparison legally. What will the Republicans run on? A constitutional amendment that will never pass?

[UT alum]

1 hour ago, Porter said:

 

Why isn’t Roberts in that picture? (rhetorical question)

[Porter]

4 hours ago, UT alum said:

Why isn’t Roberts in that picture? (rhetorical question)

Put him in there, It wouldn’t hurt my feelings. I guess he would be Dumberererer. 

[little red]

On 7/1/2026 at 1:20 PM, OlDawg said:

It was basically 5-4 on the Birthright Citizenship via the 14th. Kavanaugh said birthright citizenship didn't come from the 14th, but from a previous Law passed by Congress, and that made the EO illegal. So, he was in the minority opinion (4) along with Gorsuch, Alito, and Thomas on that issue. He left an avenue in his split decision that would have allowed Congress to pass another Law defining citizenship without needing an Amendment because--in his view--the 14th didn't grant automatic birthright citizenship.

It doesn't matter, the 14th amendment stands. Thank goodness 

[little red]

On 7/2/2026 at 12:23 PM, Reagan said:

A bit of advise:  When you copy and paste you have to give credit to who you are copying and pasting.  Forum rules!

Now, addressing the opinion piece you are quoting.  One major part left out was:   Here is the exact wording:  "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."  The most important part was left out.  A woman from China runs to the US drops a bambino and then high tails it back to China is NOT "subject to the jurisdiction thereof."  

You're reaching.