Iran War Update

[little red]

15 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

CB, there as no formal declaration of war

And....you are reaching

[baddog]

4 hours ago, little red said:

And....you are reaching

That’s what CB said last time. Lol

[baddog]

We forgot the other way for a regime change….terrorism. Lmao

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[Porter]

BREAKING: A fourth tanker has just been attacked and hit by Iran in the Strait of Hormuz US-backed southern corridor. It sustained structural damage.

This is the first time four vessels have been attacked in a single day since the war began.
 

- Kevin Steele

 

They want to make a deal so bad! Per Trump 😂

[Slim Charles]

4 hours ago, Porter said:

BREAKING: A fourth tanker has just been attacked and hit by Iran in the Strait of Hormuz US-backed southern corridor. It sustained structural damage.

This is the first time four vessels have been attacked in a single day since the war began.
 

- Kevin Steele

 

They want to make a deal so bad! Per Trump 😂

There are factions and leadership inside Iran that want to make a deal, and there are hard-liners in the IRGC that do not. These do not sound like some coordinated attacks, but rather some hard-liner trying to sow chaos. But if it continues, things are going to escalate. 

[DCT]

7 minutes ago, Slim Charles said:

There are factions and leadership inside Iran that want to make a deal, and there are hard-liners in the IRGC that do not. These do not sound like some coordinated attacks, but rather some hard-liner trying to sow chaos. But if it continues, things are going to escalate. 

Just curious to know your source?

[UT alum]

1 hour ago, Slim Charles said:

There are factions and leadership inside Iran that want to make a deal, and there are hard-liners in the IRGC that do not. These do not sound like some coordinated attacks, but rather some hard-liner trying to sow chaos. But if it continues, things are going to escalate. 

That’s why Trump’s decision to start this war was so totally bush league. There are hardliners and chaos sowers all over that region that will try and use the instability to their advantage. For him to state at the beginning that it would be over in a couple of weeks was 1(ignorant, 2(insane or 3(an outright lie. I go with 3.

[Porter]

2 hours ago, Slim Charles said:

There are factions and leadership inside Iran that want to make a deal, and there are hard-liners in the IRGC that do not. These do not sound like some coordinated attacks, but rather some hard-liner trying to sow chaos. But if it continues, things are going to escalate. 

Is that what they told you when you were in the situation room?

[thetragichippy]

47 minutes ago, Porter said:

Is that what they told you when you were in the situation room?

I believe both Vance and Trump have mentioned there are different groups that do not agree with the deal Trump is making with the current leadership.  They have also mentioned that communication can take days because the gay leader does not want to give away his position.  Taking that in to consideration along with the fact that none of the leadership is willing to go in public, there may be a leadership/communication problem.....

So, to me that makes Slim's statement believable.  

[Porter]

53 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

I believe both Vance and Trump have mentioned there are different groups that do not agree with the deal Trump is making with the current leadership.  They have also mentioned that communication can take days because the gay leader does not want to give away his position.  Taking that in to consideration along with the fact that none of the leadership is willing to go in public, there may be a leadership/communication problem.....

So, to me that makes Slim's statement believable.  

I am sure the Iranians aren’t playing us at all. 🙄

[Porter]

12 hours ago, thetragichippy said:

I believe both Vance and Trump have mentioned there are different groups that do not agree with the deal Trump is making with the current leadership.  They have also mentioned that communication can take days because the gay leader does not want to give away his position.  Taking that in to consideration along with the fact that none of the leadership is willing to go in public, there may be a leadership/communication problem.....

So, to me that makes Slim's statement believable.  

🚨🚨🚨 BACK TO WAR | That’s how it sounds with Iran. Pres. Trump suggests the ceasefire is OVER! Speaking in Ankara, Trump said, "To me, I think it's over. I don't want to deal with them. They're (Iran) scum. They're sick people. They're led by sick people. They're vicious, violent people."
 

Just small factions….Lol

Like I said they’re just playing us.

[Slim Charles]

2 hours ago, Porter said:

🚨🚨🚨 BACK TO WAR | That’s how it sounds with Iran. Pres. Trump suggests the ceasefire is OVER! Speaking in Ankara, Trump said, "To me, I think it's over. I don't want to deal with them. They're (Iran) scum. They're sick people. They're led by sick people. They're vicious, violent people."
 

Just small factions….Lol

Like I said they’re just playing us.

Exactly what part of my statement was untrue? I never said "small" factions, you added that. I said there were factions and leadership that want to make a deal, and hardliners in the IRGC that do not. I also said these do not seem like coordinated attacks, but rather hardliners trying to sow chaos (shooting a projectile towards a tanker). I also stated that it will cause things to escalate...it has. You don't have to be in the situation room to apply some common sense and see what's going on. 

But I do agree they are playing us. And it's probably about to get ugly.

[thetragichippy]

3 hours ago, Porter said:

Like I said they’re just playing us.

They have been.......kinda

I don't think they are going to like the result. 

I think trying to work with them before we go all out is a better look than not giving them a chance and blowing them away.

Prediction: There will be boots on the ground, but not ours.....

[baddog]

 

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, thetragichippy said:

They have been.......kinda

I don't think they are going to like the result. 

I think trying to work with them before we go all out is a better look than not giving them a chance and blowing them away.

Prediction: There will be boots on the ground, but not ours.....

Agreed!  Trump knows how they are.  You know, give them enough rope to hang themselves.  I've stated here before that I had heard that Israel had offered to put the boots on the ground.  Israel doesn't play!  

[OlDawg]

48 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Agreed!  Trump knows how they are.  You know, give them enough rope to hang themselves.  I've stated here before that I had heard that Israel had offered to put the boots on the ground.  Israel doesn't play!  

Iran has over 600,000 active soldiers--not counting Hezbollah, or Hamas. Israel has around 170,000--of which all can't mobilize without leaving the home state of Israel open to attack. Come again?

[Reagan]

1 minute ago, OlDawg said:

Iran has over 600,000 active soldiers--not counting Hezbollah, or Hamas. Israel has around 170,000--of which all can't mobilize without leaving the home state of Israel open to attack. Come again?

Israel always finds a way to win.  With The US backing, they'll get it done.  Like I said, I heard they offered.  

[OlDawg]

5 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Israel always finds a way to win.  With The US backing, they'll get it done.  Like I said, I heard they offered.  

I'd stick with predicting elections, or something different. You've been wrong on this one from the very beginning.

[Porter]

3 hours ago, Slim Charles said:

Exactly what part of my statement was untrue? I never said "small" factions, you added that. I said there were factions and leadership that want to make a deal, and hardliners in the IRGC that do not. I also said these do not seem like coordinated attacks, but rather hardliners trying to sow chaos (shooting a projectile towards a tanker). I also stated that it will cause things to escalate...it has. You don't have to be in the situation room to apply some common sense and see what's going on. 

But I do agree they are playing us. And it's probably about to get ugly.

The definition of faction is a small organized group. 😂

They are just buying time and the more time they get the more it bolds well for them. 
 

No doubt it looks good for Trump to give them 30 chances but this is turning into a dumpster fire.

[Reagan]

6 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

I'd stick with predicting elections, or something different. You've been wrong on this one from the very beginning.

I'll add you to the list:  You can have your own opinions -- but you can't have your own facts!  

It's not good to go against Israel.  History dictates this.  

TTP -- Trust The Process!!

[OlDawg]

7 minutes ago, Reagan said:

I'll add you to the list:  You can have your own opinions -- but you can't have your own facts!  

It's not good to go against Israel.  History dictates this.  

TTP -- Trust The Process!!

No problem. I’ll add you to the ‘Don’t have a clue/political hack list.’

Oh snap! You were already there.

[UT alum]

19 hours ago, thetragichippy said:

I believe both Vance and Trump have mentioned there are different groups that do not agree with the deal Trump is making with the current leadership.  They have also mentioned that communication can take days because the gay leader does not want to give away his position.  Taking that in to consideration along with the fact that none of the leadership is willing to go in public, there may be a leadership/communication problem.....

So, to me that makes Slim's statement believable.  

To me it’s consistent with Trump’s pattern of blaming others when things don’t work out.

[Porter]

42 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Iran has over 600,000 active soldiers--not counting Hezbollah, or Hamas. Israel has around 170,000--of which all can't mobilize without leaving the home state of Israel open to attack. Come again?

Yeah but Trump has given the Israel soldiers superpowers! 😂Smh 

[UT alum]

2 hours ago, baddog said:

 

Obama was president what, almost 15 years ago? The relevance is ???

[Porter]

5 minutes ago, UT alum said:

To me it’s consistent with Trump’s pattern of blaming others when things don’t work out.

Trump is never wrong just ask him he’ll tell you.