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32 minutes ago, baddog said:

Not me. That’s garbage.

Yeah….The perpetrators of Covid and how it was handled was garbage too. Look at how many people died and no one had been held accountable. It was a manufactured disaster and our government locked us down. 
 

You obviously trust our government way more than I do. 

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12 minutes ago, Porter said:

Yeah….The perpetrators of Covid and how it was handled was garbage too. Look at how many people died and no one had been held accountable. It was a manufactured disaster and our government locked us down. 
 

You obviously trust our government way more than I do. 

You describe the dems to a tee. Posting that our government will hit us with missiles is just silly.

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26 minutes ago, baddog said:

You describe the dems to a tee. Posting that our government will hit us with missiles is just silly.

They hit us pretty good with a manufactured Covid and lockdowns. No one has been held accountable. Hundreds of thousands of family owned businesses destroyed and millions that died. I wouldn’t put it pass them to do proxy strikes .

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Like I said, the dems shut down the country. I never missed work because my business was considered essential. I never took the jab, came down with Covid, grateful I survived without hospitalization. Thought it was a money grab scheme at the cost of human life. We had hundreds of posts during that time.
 

Never have I feared our own military. If the dems are in control and come door to door for our guns, that is where I will say my goodbyes and die in the process.

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12 minutes ago, baddog said:

Like I said, the dems shut down the country. I never missed work because my business was considered essential. I never took the jab, came down with Covid, grateful I survived without hospitalization. Thought it was a money grab scheme at the cost of human life. We had hundreds of posts during that time.
 

Never have I feared our own military. If the dems are in control and come door to door for our guns, that is where I will say my goodbyes and die in the process.

I am not saying our military is going to attack us. I am talking proxy strikes to make it look Iran attacked us to justify a ongoing war.

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31 minutes ago, Porter said:

hey hit us pretty good with a manufactured Covid and lockdowns. No one has been held accountable.

I do believe it came from a Chinese lab. I also believe they did not know how to respond.  I think there were mistakes made, but I don't think on purpose.  I'm not a huge fan of Fauci, and if proven he purposely tried to hurt people or cover something up he should be held accountable. The question is what law or penal code did they break? 

To me, the biggest failure was forcing people to take the vaccine or businesses, specifically airlines require proof of vaccination to fly......  but again, what law to prosecute?  

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33 minutes ago, Porter said:

I am not saying our military is going to attack us. I am talking proxy strikes to make it look Iran attacked us to justify a ongoing war.

Not what I read.

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30 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

I do believe it came from a Chinese lab. I also believe they did not know how to respond.  I think there were mistakes made, but I don't think on purpose.  I'm not a huge fan of Fauci, and if proven he purposely tried to hurt people or cover something up he should be held accountable. The question is what law or penal code did they break? 

To me, the biggest failure was forcing people to take the vaccine or businesses, specifically airlines require proof of vaccination to fly......  but again, what law to prosecute?  

Maybe the right to travel covered by the 14th amendment. It’s a little obscure.

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47 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

I do believe it came from a Chinese lab. I also believe they did not know how to respond.  I think there were mistakes made, but I don't think on purpose.  I'm not a huge fan of Fauci, and if proven he purposely tried to hurt people or cover something up he should be held accountable. The question is what law or penal code did they break? 

To me, the biggest failure was forcing people to take the vaccine or businesses, specifically airlines require proof of vaccination to fly......  but again, what law to prosecute?  

The banning of cheap drugs like ivermectin and hydroxychloraquin during COVID was intentional to force people in to  thinking the vaccine was a cure and to make big Pharma billions! Not to mention taking doctors licenses that prescribed it knowing that it helped tremendously. The protocol put out at hospitals was a death sentence for most especially dealing with the respirators. 

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For an actual war update, I hope we don’t hit their power plants and bridges. I do care about the Iranian people, no matter what some may think or say. This would make it more difficult on the people. I pray we reach a deal and get the strait opened to full capacity.

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13 hours ago, baddog said:

“If an attack occurs, it would most likely be by your own government”. I don’t see how that can be taken any differently.

Government not our military. We sell weapons to countries all over the world. We literally funded the making of the Covid 19 virus that caused death and destruction of the world economy at the tune of about 60 trillion dollars or more. Smh

What exactly are we trying to win in Iran? They’ve been around like 5000 years do you think they are just going to capitulate? This is a religious war in their minds. If Trump follows through tonight they said they would bomb neighboring energy facilities in neighboring countries and bring the global economy to a halt which could be for years. What then?
 

I still believe Trump got talked into this instead of using his instincts like he always does. He’s usually spot on with his instincts.

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The root of almost all of Trump's moves and decisions are financial/business related, even this war. He absolutely knows business. I'm not sure if he's prepared for the evils of a holy war. 

Posted
1 minute ago, mat said:

The root of almost all of Trump's moves and decisions are financial/business related, even this war. He absolutely knows business. I'm not sure if he's prepared for the evils of a holy war. 

No, Trump understands marketing. He’s failed a lot as a businessman. The only thing that kept him relevant was his ability to market himself. 
 

10 years ago Trump told us he was going to erase the debt… which was 19 trillion at the time. It’s past 39 trillion now.  He markets himself by offering tax cuts, while believing that his boldness and willingness to “go big or go home” guarantee that he can’t lose-except he does.  A lot. Everything that they own is mortgaged to the gills. It just doesn’t work on a federal level. 
 

He’s a semi-successful hotel developer who thinks he’s smarter than everyone, and since our military is at his disposal, he can do whatever he wants. Nobody can argue that we’re in a better place now than we were when Biden was in office. 

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What do yall make of his latest threats to Iran? That their civilization will end tonight? Is he going to drop a nuke? Is it more hot air? He’s kinda painted himself into a corner with anyone who isn’t wearing a red ball cap. 
 

Economy is a the edge of a cliff, we’ve dumped a few hundred billion into pointless attack on Iran, and our credibility on a global stage is destroyed because Trump is a buffoon with a smart phone and a global audience. It’s refreshing to see some republicans finally starting to find their voices. It gives me hope. 

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29 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

What do yall make of his latest threats to Iran? That their civilization will end tonight? Is he going to drop a nuke? Is it more hot air? He’s kinda painted himself into a corner with anyone who isn’t wearing a red ball cap. 
 

Economy is a the edge of a cliff, we’ve dumped a few hundred billion into pointless attack on Iran, and our credibility on a global stage is destroyed because Trump is a buffoon with a smart phone and a global audience. It’s refreshing to see some republicans finally starting to find their voices. It gives me hope. 

They’ll be an extension for talks but who’s he talking to if all the leaders have been killed. 
 

Just another line in the sand. Like I said I believe he was talked into this with some no so good intel to destroy his presidency. I mean they’ve tried everything else. 

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Costs are much more after 15 years. Pointless? Opinions have no cost. Not one peep 15 years ago and it accomplished nothing. Lybia was no eminent threat. It contributed to the Benghazi situation, which we never avenged due to incompetence. Again, not a peep. In fact, dems sided with incompetence. Call it a but but all you want. Pointing how people try to force their opinions of what is right or wrong upon others, while flip flopping their outrage at almost identical situations, proves to me they have no conviction……just their hatred for one man.

Hypothesis: Leave Iran alone, keep shipping them money on the promise that they stop enriching their uranium to weapons grade. It was already enriched past the commercial stage. (Fact). Their proxies, the 3 H’s….Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis, keep lobbing missiles at will without consequences. Finally, Iran develops the nuclear warhead and the means to deliver it. Are they going to put it in a silo for defense? No, they will erase the dreaded Jews from the face of the planet. No doubt in my mind. What then? WWlll. The Jews would nuke Iran, which would then get Russia and China involved, which would eventually hit us. Then would we scream, “Why didn’t Trump prevent this when he could have?”. That’s if we are still here to complain.

 

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1 hour ago, TheMissingBand said:

No, Trump understands marketing. He’s failed a lot as a businessman. The only thing that kept him relevant was his ability to market himself. 
 

10 years ago Trump told us he was going to erase the debt… which was 19 trillion at the time. It’s past 39 trillion now.  He markets himself by offering tax cuts, while believing that his boldness and willingness to “go big or go home” guarantee that he can’t lose-except he does.  A lot. Everything that they own is mortgaged to the gills. It just doesn’t work on a federal level. 
 

He’s a semi-successful hotel developer who thinks he’s smarter than everyone, and since our military is at his disposal, he can do whatever he wants. Nobody can argue that we’re in a better place now than we were when Biden was in office. 

I bet if you take at the portfolios and profits of his sons, Kushner and other silent partners you will see the results of his business sense. His art of the deal is real. You're just looking at the wrong picture. Doesn't mean I'm a fan though.

Posted
16 minutes ago, mat said:

I bet if you take at the portfolios and profits of his sons, Kushner and other silent partners you will see the results of his business sense. His art of the deal is real. You're just looking at the wrong picture. Doesn't mean I'm a fan though.

It’s marketing. Slap his name on something and the morons will line up to buy it. 
 

That’s the genius. People will overlook the failures and defend him to the end. 

Posted
54 minutes ago, Porter said:

Just another line in the sand. Like I said I believe he was talked into this with some no so good intel to destroy his presidency. I mean they’ve tried everything else. 

Y’all said the same thing when Covid happened. “It wasn’t Trump’s fault. The people around him failed on purpose to try and destroy his presidency. “


He’s a con man. A master marketer, and he commands an allegiance from MAGA that is baffling.  Debt is exploded, we’re in wars, economy is crap. “Art of the Deal. Trump’s playing 4d chess.”  No, MAGA is brainwashed and it’s honestly pitiful. 

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