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5 minutes ago, 1989NDN said:

If you look at the big picture, what has this war accomplished?  Without a regime change, everyone will be back at square one when the dust settles.  Iran will rebuild, the US will have spent a ton of money, and nothing has changed.

We have been in this for I believe a little over two weeks.  The leader can't or won't come out of hiding (I'm not blaming him,.  the fact he likes being alive) - For all we know he may be dead.  Reports are that he is injured, I've not ever read once Iran has top notch health care.....

I'll reassess at 30 days.  

Posted
7 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

We have been in this for I believe a little over two weeks.  The leader can't or won't come out of hiding (I'm not blaming him,.  the fact he likes being alive) - For all we know he may be dead.  Reports are that he is injured, I've not ever read once Iran has top notch health care.....

I'll reassess at 30 days.  

2 more weeks he says! 

Posted
On 3/11/2026 at 4:11 PM, Porter said:

Yep

 

I hate to say it, but he'd be really impressive if he actually knew what he was talking about.

  • In the distillation process of oil, lighter gases are drawn first. Gasoline, kerosene, and diesel is last. It's the dregs.
  • Diesel is always more expensive because of the extra processing it takes to make it ULSD (required by him & his cohorts in government) for pollution control.
  • Most gasoline stations aren't owned by the oil companies. Haven't been for decades. They set their prices based on their supplier's cost forecasts. Their suppliers (jobbers) are the middlemen. Typically, not the oil companies unless it's one of the few stations that are still company owned. The price of fuel rises before people think it should because the station owner doesn't want to go negative on their balance sheet when they have to purchase their next load.
  • The oil in the pipeline is a load of crap as well. The oil is at a terminal. There are limited number of terminals, and pipelines connect the country and some refineries. There are a limited number of refineries, and not all refineries can refine every type of crude. Some states have no capability to receive crude via pipeline, nor a refinery to process it.
  • When the gas in your tank was bought depends on the turnover of product at the service station where you filled up.
  • Oil refining is the 2nd lowest margin business out there behind grocery. Both have margins below 5%. Much of the cost we pay are actually taxes and fees. The national average taxes levied from the Feds and States runs around $0.55/gallon. 

Seems like a nice fella'. Just needs to get his info correct where he can be taken seriously. He should have talked with someone with experience in the business before spouting the 'company line' of price gouging. If he was serious about cutting the cost of gasoline and diesel, he'd be for providing a tax holiday for however long the price per barrel is elevated because of the Iran conflict. THAT would be the largest, quickest, and easiest way to provide a discount and benefit the consumer.

 

Posted
28 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

We have been in this for I believe a little over two weeks.  The leader can't or won't come out of hiding (I'm not blaming him,.  the fact he likes being alive) - For all we know he may be dead.  Reports are that he is injured, I've not ever read once Iran has top notch health care.....

I'll reassess at 30 days.  

My personal belief is the 'new leader' is merely a puppet for the IRGC. As I said when this started, air power alone will not get rid of them. They have nothing to lose as they have no place they can go that would be safe for them, and no country is going to take them willingly.

Posted
59 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

We have been in this for I believe a little over two weeks.  The leader can't or won't come out of hiding (I'm not blaming him,.  the fact he likes being alive) - For all we know he may be dead.  Reports are that he is injured, I've not ever read once Iran has top notch health care.....

I'll reassess at 30 days.  

People at the apex of any society have access to excellent care.

Posted

So far, the war (“excursion”) has:

1. Led to the installation of a younger Ayatollah

2. Cost the US a few hundred billion dollars in spent munitions 

3. Halted the flow of oil from the Gulf States, causing the price of oil/fuel at a rate unseen since the 1970s

4. Knocked the Down to 46500 from 50000

5. Cost us a half dozen troops with hundred more maimed. 
 

The good news is that I can lay down and sleep soundly tonight knowing that it’s very unlikely that the Iranians will attack me in my sleep tonight. 
 

Sound about right?

Posted
1 minute ago, UT alum said:

People at the apex of any society have access to excellent care.

Mojtaba Khamenei hopes you are right

I imagine any travel above ground will be worse than whatever condition he is currently in.....

Posted
1 minute ago, TheMissingBand said:

So far, the war (“excursion”) has:

1. Led to the installation of a younger Ayatollah

2. Cost the US a few hundred billion dollars in spent munitions 

3. Halted the flow of oil from the Gulf States, causing the price of oil/fuel at a rate unseen since the 1970s

4. Knocked the Down to 46500 from 50000

5. Cost us a half dozen troops with hundred more maimed. 
 

The good news is that I can lay down and sleep soundly tonight knowing that it’s very unlikely that the Iranians will attack me in my sleep tonight. 
 

Sound about right?

Can you come up with anything positive?

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Can you come up with anything positive?

 

All I’ve seen so far is downside over the last 2 weeks.

but maybe I need to wait 2 more weeks, like you’ve mentioned 🤭

Posted

I just have to say what is—hopefully—obvious to everyone. We probably can’t count the number of bots trying to influence opinions.

Don’t make yourself look foolish by spreading without verifying.

Posted
52 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

So far, the war (“excursion”) has:

1. Led to the installation of a younger Ayatollah

2. Cost the US a few hundred billion dollars in spent munitions 

3. Halted the flow of oil from the Gulf States, causing the price of oil/fuel at a rate unseen since the 1970s

4. Knocked the Down to 46500 from 50000

5. Cost us a half dozen troops with hundred more maimed. 
 

The good news is that I can lay down and sleep soundly tonight knowing that it’s very unlikely that the Iranians will attack me in my sleep tonight. 
 

Sound about right?

1. Yes

2.No. High end estimates are $2 Billion/Day.

3. No. March 2022, oil was over $120/bbl.

4.Yes

5. I believe I read 7 lost with around 140 injured. Only 2 were serious.

I can’t say on the last thought. Could very easily be a homegrown sympathizer.

Posted
2 hours ago, 1989NDN said:

 

Google
Yes, as of March 2026, Israel is experiencing ongoing bombardment and aerial attacks as part of a major escalation in regional conflict.
 
Based on reports from March 10–12, 2026, the situation includes:
  • Coordinated Attacks: Iran and Hezbollah have launched sustained, large-scale attacks involving rockets, drones, and cluster munitions targeting locations across Israel, including Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, and northern areas.
  • Cluster Bomb Strikes: Reports indicate Iran has fired cluster munitions into central Israel, which are difficult to intercept and have caused significant casualties and damage.
  • Severe Damage and Casualties:Attacks have resulted in casualties in Israel, with reports of homes and infrastructure being damaged by rocket fire.
  • Defense System Strain: While Israel's Iron Dome and air defense systems are active, the intense volume of projectiles and the use of cluster bombs have strained these systems.
  • Regional Retaliation: These attacks are part of a broader conflict that includes Israeli strikes in Lebanon and against Iranian interests. 
A nationwide state of emergency is in effect, and residents are advised to remain close to bomb shelters. 
 
Are we counting the lives Isreal has lost?  
Posted
13 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

1. Yes

2.No. High end estimates are $2 Billion/Day.

3. No. March 2022, oil was over $120/bbl.

4.Yes

5. I believe I read 7 lost with around 140 injured. Only 2 were serious.

I can’t say on the last thought. Could very easily be a homegrown sympathizer.


2.  I misspoke… out total cost to mobilize, pay hazard pay, munitions, etc… 2 billion/day doesn’t even come close to covering the cost that we’re laying out  

3. The rate at which oil jumped, not the total price per barrel. It actually doubled over the course of last week, at one point, I’m pretty sure.


This is a breakdown of the costs of different missile types that we use they claim to have struck more than 3000 sites in Iran.  That doesn’t  include the cost of defensive missiles.  They fire off two Patriot missiles at a time, at a cost of 4 million each… so that’s 8 million dollars every time we try to intercept an Iranian missile or drone with a patriot battery.  

 

Key Missile Costs (Estimated as of 2026):
  • THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense): ~$13 million per interceptor
  • SM-6 (Standard Missile-6): ~$4.3 million to $9.3 million per unit
  • Patriot (PAC-3 MSE): ~$3.7 million to $3.9 million per interceptor
  • SM-2 (Standard Missile-2): ~$2.1 million per unit
  • ESSM (Evolved SeaSparrow Missile):~$1.7 million per unit
  • JDAM (Joint Direct Attack Munition) kits: ~$25,000 (air-dropped guided bomb) 
    Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance +6

 

 

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