Government Shutdown

[DCT]

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Because Trump won most states, lol.

 

 

Red states had the most people enrolled in ACA.  My point is his base will suffer.  He needs to provide a replacement.  What is his plan for health insurance?  
 

[DCT]

On 10/16/2025 at 4:08 PM, OlDawg said:

Q. Maybe the best thing to come out of this shutdown?

A. The Fed may actually have to use more accurate, private sector data for their next meeting.

That would only prove that the data was accurate and he fired people because the information provided was not to his liking and made him look unpresidential.

[LumRaiderFan]

1 minute ago, DCT said:

Red states had the most people enrolled in ACA.  My point is his base will suffer.  He needs to provide a replacement.  What is his plan for health insurance?  
 

Red states have the most people, period.

Why do we need a replacement?

Wasn’t obama’s plan affordable?

No one replaces a great plan.

[DCT]

1 minute ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Red states have the most people, period.

Why do we need a replacement?

Wasn’t obama’s plan affordable?

No one replaces a great plan.

The current plan will expire.  
The most people in those red states are suffering.  Why do you think old white people are protesting.

[DCT]

5 minutes ago, DCT said:

The current plan will expire.  
The most people in those red states are suffering.  Why do you think old white people are protesting.

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[LumRaiderFan]

14 minutes ago, DCT said:

The current plan will expire.  
The most people in those red states are suffering.  Why do you think old white people are protesting.

You still haven’t explained how it was affordable.

Was it?

[DCT]

18 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

You still haven’t explained how it was affordable.

Was it?

If you made below $16000.00 a year you had no monthly premiums  Some plans had $0 doctors visits and I believe tier one medication may have been $2.00.  One of the plans was Ambetter.  It was based off of your zip code.  Yes it was affordable.

[DCT]

7 minutes ago, DCT said:

If you made below $16000.00 a year you had no monthly premiums  Some plans had $0 doctors visits and I believe tier one medication may have been $2.00.  One of the plans was Ambetter.  It was based off of your zip code.  Yes it was affordable.

The more you paid into it the better your coverage was. It is income based.  If you made more you paid more but it was affordable for those who had preexisting conditions or needed surgery.

[OlDawg]

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Need to read the details. There’s a clearer explanation in The Wall Street Journal today. But, it’s behind a paywall.

Note: My wife and I are on ACA & have been since 2018. We’re very familiar with the positives and negatives.

[DCT]

4 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

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Need to read the details. There’s a clearer explanation in The Wall Street Journal today. But, it’s behind a paywall.

Note: My wife and I are on ACA & have been since 2018. We’re very familiar with the positives and negatives.

I have helped homeless people who didn’t have anything but were suffering serious medical conditions.  One person was type 1 and could not afford insulin.  

[DCT]

13 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

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Need to read the details. There’s a clearer explanation in The Wall Street Journal today. But, it’s behind a paywall.

Note: My wife and I are on ACA & have been since 2018. We’re very familiar with the positives and negatives.

My son was on Blue Cross Blue Shield bronze 6. His job did not offer health insurance.  There was a law that jobs had to provide health insurance for their full time employees.  To get around that the employer would only hire part time workers to keep from providing health insurance.

[Reagan]

 

Trump winning the Schumer shutdown!

[DCT]

6 hours ago, Reagan said:

 

Trump winning the Schumer shutdown!

Yea, I saw the no king rally.  Good observation.  
You know how people feel about polls.  Not reliable at all according to you. Especially if it came from cnn.  
Also saw the picture you posted of the rally.  It was far from the truth.

[mat]

Anybody else watch the Kennedy Center town hall meeting? A lot of truth was said, and some BS

 

[thetragichippy]

10 hours ago, DCT said:

I don’t know what the consequences would be if they refused.

They are penalized on their taxes.....if they file.....

[mat]

6 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

They are penalized on their taxes.....if they file.....

That’s what Obama did.

[DCT]

49 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

They are penalized on their taxes.....if they file.....

They are penalized on their taxes if they lie.  If you state that you make $16000.00 but actually made $40,000.00 for the year yes you are penalized and you have to pay back.  If you stated you made 16000.00 but only made 12000.00 for the year you are not penalized.  They send you a 1095A form at the end of the year to complete your taxes.  Some people have received money back.  Just recently Ambetter sent out $500.00 checks to people who were placed on it.  I believe Ambetter they may have been penalized.  I am no expert just giving you what I know about them in South Carolina.  I believe in Texas it was United Health and then Molina.  
North Carolina was Blue Cross Blue Shield.  All depending on the zip code and the doctors in that area.  There is a lot of downside.  You may receive a bill and never used the card.  
their definitely needs to be a replacement or make improvements.  It is definitely broken.

[thetragichippy]

8 minutes ago, DCT said:

They are penalized on their taxes if they lie.  If you state that you make $16000.00 but actually made $40,000.00 for the year yes you are penalized and you have to pay back.  If you stated you made 16000.00 but only made 12000.00 for the year you are not penalized.  They send you a 1095A form at the end of the year to complete your taxes.

I just looked it up - the penalty for not having insurance ended in 2019.  

I always thought it was a little unconstitutional to force you to buy something or penalize you. 

[DCT]

52 minutes ago, mat said:

That’s what Obama did.

I believe a bipartisan agreement can be made.

[DCT]

4 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

I just looked it up - the penalty for not having insurance ended in 2019.  

I always thought it was a little unconstitutional to force you to buy something or penalize you. 

I completely agree.  What plan can Trump offer up? He said he had ideas but nothing has been presented.

[mat]

9 minutes ago, DCT said:

I believe a bipartisan agreement can be made.

I think we have a political climate where bipartisan agreements will be very rare. 

[DCT]

1 minute ago, mat said:

I think we have a political climate where bipartisan agreements will be very rare. 

It’s like the video you’ve shared.  People don’t want to compromise.  They want retribution.  Hurt people, hurt people.

[thetragichippy]

9 minutes ago, DCT said:

I completely agree.  What plan can Trump offer up? He said he had ideas but nothing has been presented.

I have not really heard any details.  It is a complicated issue. 

I think expanding Medicaid to people below a certain income  could work.  At the same time, in my job, I see people that make $250K a year or more, but according to their tax returns they make 12,000/year. Like I said, complicated. 

I don't see a bipartisan agreement on a single payer system ever....