Trump grants 'total authorization' to ICE agents to protect themselves after violent California clashes

[thetragichippy]

"I am giving Total Authorization for ICE to protect itself, just like they protect the Public," he wrote. "I never want to see a car carrying a Law Enforcement Officer attacked again! AUTHORIZATION IMMEDIATELY GRANTED FOR ARREST AND INCARCERATION. Thank you for your attention to this matter!"

@tvc184 - why was this needed? A political statement?  It's hard for me to believe ICE agents need permission to protect themselves and/or pull over and arrest someone throwing rocks at their vehicle. 

I bet if they got out and shot one, that rock throwing would stop tho

 

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[baddog]

18 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

"I am giving Total Authorization for ICE to protect itself, just like they protect the Public," he wrote. "I never want to see a car carrying a Law Enforcement Officer attacked again! AUTHORIZATION IMMEDIATELY GRANTED FOR ARREST AND INCARCERATION. Thank you for your attention to this matter!"

@tvc184 - why was this needed? A political statement?  It's hard for me to believe ICE agents need permission to protect themselves and/or pull over and arrest someone throwing rocks at their vehicle. 

I bet if they got out and shot one, that rock throwing would stop tho

 

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Throwing concrete blocks at police is assault with a “deadly” weapon. Police don’t need permission (like tvc said) to defend themselves with deadly force. Need to find the money behind these assaults and arrest them. How convenient it is that there is throwable concrete available at the ICE raids. 

[tvc184]

4 hours ago, thetragichippy said:

"I am giving Total Authorization for ICE to protect itself, just like they protect the Public," he wrote. "I never want to see a car carrying a Law Enforcement Officer attacked again! AUTHORIZATION IMMEDIATELY GRANTED FOR ARREST AND INCARCERATION. Thank you for your attention to this matter!"

@tvc184 - why was this needed? A political statement?  It's hard for me to believe ICE agents need permission to protect themselves and/or pull over and arrest someone throwing rocks at their vehicle. 

I bet if they got out and shot one, that rock throwing would stop tho

 

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The laws of self-defense are enacted by a legislature whether state or federal. Trump cannot unilaterally make his own laws.

 Whether an officer (or anyone else) who used force or deadly force to protect himself complied with self defense laws, is up to the court system.

Trump is in my opinion making a political statement but in a way reaffirming the right of self defense.

 The question for a future jury might be, is a person throwing a brick through a vehicle window a threat to cause death…. OR serious bodily injury?

From every state law that I have read on deadly force in self defense, it doesn’t require a belief of being about to die to justify it. It requires the reasonable belief that serious injury might happen. Texas calls it serious, bodily injury, I have read some states that use the phrase, grievous bodily injury, etc. If a guy is about to put out your eye with a rock, the loss of an eye under Texas law is serious bodily injury. It would be the same for most broken bones.

[5GallonBucket]

7 hours ago, thetragichippy said:

"I am giving Total Authorization for ICE to protect itself, just like they protect the Public," he wrote. "I never want to see a car carrying a Law Enforcement Officer attacked again! AUTHORIZATION IMMEDIATELY GRANTED FOR ARREST AND INCARCERATION. Thank you for your attention to this matter!"

@tvc184 - why was this needed? A political statement?  It's hard for me to believe ICE agents need permission to protect themselves and/or pull over and arrest someone throwing rocks at their vehicle. 

I bet if they got out and shot one, that rock throwing would stop tho

 

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Yep and it needs to happen

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[tvc184]

1 hour ago, baddog said:

 

Hear! Hear!

[5GallonBucket]

4 hours ago, tvc184 said:

Hear! Hear!

2nd that