The 14th Amendment & Birthright Citizenship

[UT alum]

On 4/1/2026 at 3:51 PM, OlDawg said:

Ha! I prefer the Denzel version. Decent flick.

I thought so, too. I’ll betcha “Manchurian candidate”isn’t used as a double entendre very often.

[Big girl]

On 4/1/2026 at 11:17 AM, OlDawg said:

True. Sauer’s rebuttal just chewed up the ACLU argument. Wow! He pointed out almost every case they referenced was BEFORE the 14th, and every case he cited was after.

Still don’t know if it will be enough though. Gorsuch’s comment was troubling about accepting the ACLU argument and making a quick ruling. I really thought he would be more on the textualism/originalism side. Now, I’m not so sure.

Judge Amy asked him how do we know which illegal immigrants have an allegence to this nation.She also said that she is sure that some of the slaves that were forced here had an allegence to their native land., yet they became citizens. The lawyer couldnt answer the question. It is not looking too good for the Trump administration,  but we will see.

[Big girl]

On 4/1/2026 at 10:58 AM, Reagan said:

Again, I don’t think it was a coincidence that the 14th was right after the 13th that freed the slaves.  THIS is what the 14th had to do with.  I know which way 3 Justices will vote.  Why?  Because that’s why they were put there.  You know — to do the left’s bidding.  This last Justice was really bad and really telling!  DEI at its finest!!  We want this individual to know what the Constitution says when she doesn’t know what a woman is!  

It is sad that you believe that all black women are DEI hires. Smh

[Big girl]

On 4/1/2026 at 2:16 PM, OlDawg said:

What's interesting--that most people don't think about--is that a child born by someone here temporarily is a U.S. citizen--according to the current situation. That person can become a future POTUS.

Hypothetical:

A Chinese birth tourism agency recruits a Chinese female to have a baby born in the U.S. That baby then leaves the U.S., grows up in Communist China for all their lives until they are 21. Then, they move back to the U.S. At 35, they file to run for President of the United States.

They would qualify. They would be a natural U.S. citizen, they would have lived in the U.S. for the last 14 years, and they would be 35 years old.

Oh well. How are you a citizen if they take away birthright citizenship?

[Reagan]

12 minutes ago, Big girl said:

It is sad that you believe that all black women are DEI hires. Smh

No, not all.  But it's not hard to figure when they are!

[Big girl]

1 minute ago, Reagan said:

No, not all.  But it's not hard to figure when they are!

Are unqualified white people ever hired?

[Big girl]

17 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Judge Amy asked him how do we know which illegal immigrants have an allegence to this nation.She also said that she is sure that some of the slaves that were forced here had an allegence to their native land, yet they became citizens

The lawyer couldnt answer the question. It is not looking too good for the Trump administration,  but we will see.

 

[Reagan]

Just now, Big girl said:

Are unqualified white people ever hired?

I'm sure there are.  But it's never sanctioned by the government like DEI was.  

[Reagan]

1 minute ago, Big girl said:

 

Do you agree that the 14th is a direct correlation to 13th?  

[baddog]

18 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Are unqualified white people ever hired?

All the time. It’s why there used to be a hiring process called an interview. I’ve worn suit and tie to several interviews. When one is hired for gender or race, the quality is watered down, to be nice about it. That was not a very intelligent question.