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Hull-Daisetta vs Hardin rivalry game, who wins and why?


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  1. 1. Who wins this game?

    • Hull-Daisetta
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    • Hardin
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Since 1995, HD and Hardin have played 11 times. HD leads the series since '95 7-4. Since 2001, Hardin has won 4 of the last 6 meetings. Prior to 2001, HD won 14 consecutive meetings dating back to 1984 and 25 of 26 games since 1973. So yes, prior to 2001 when Hardin has had some success, HD led the series 43-3 from 1948-2001. HD has only lost one game to Hardin when they were in the same district, going 25-1 against the Hornets. Hardin's only when in school history when both schools were in the same UIL classification was 2001. HD beat Deweyville, Warren, Port Arthur Austin and Anahauc, but fell to EC and Hardin. The Hornets finished with two district losses as well but made the playoffs in a three way tie for second. HD leads the overall series 45-7 and it will be 46-7 about 5 days from now.
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[quote name="oldschool2" post="1427114" timestamp="1377385229"]
HD wins.....one more time. The hd move-ins are too much for the hornets this year. This will be the last time the bobcats win this game though....maybe ever. In fact,  I wouldn't be surprised if this game doesn't get scheduled again.

I predict HD to have 12 wins over the next 5 years. And Hardin won't be any of those.

for those of you that don't like my comments....sorry. Brutally honest is the only speed I go.
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Finney will leave after this season. There is nothing left after this season
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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1427433" timestamp="1377451325"]
Based on what I have been told by some local coaches that HD is canceling some of their sub level games because they cannot compete (then scheduling weaker teams), that very well could be the case.

Be surprised if Finney stayed past next season.
[/quote]lol  ::) Come on really. Not true at all. lol. The things people will say.  ??? HD may as well give up now and close the football program. lol SMH!  ::)
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[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1427443" timestamp="1377452762"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427433#msg1427433 date=1377451325]
Based on what I have been told by some local coaches that HD is canceling some of their sub level games because they cannot compete (then scheduling weaker teams), that very well could be the case.

Be surprised if Finney stayed past next season.
[/quote]lol  ::) Come on really. Not true at all. lol. The things people will say.  ??? HD may as well give up now and close the football program. lol SMH!  ::)
[/quote]


So you are saying that Finney has not canceled any sub level games with larger schools and substituted them with smaller or weaker level schools?
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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1427447" timestamp="1377453279"]
[quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=113499.msg1427443#msg1427443 date=1377452762]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427433#msg1427433 date=1377451325]
Based on what I have been told by some local coaches that HD is canceling some of their sub level games because they cannot compete (then scheduling weaker teams), that very well could be the case.

Be surprised if Finney stayed past next season.
[/quote]lol  ::) Come on really. Not true at all. lol. The things people will say.  ??? HD may as well give up now and close the football program. lol SMH!  ::)
[/quote]


So you are saying that Finney has not canceled any sub level games with larger schools and substituted them with smaller or weaker level schools?
[/quote]Schedule will change based on realignment happening. As far as pre-season games changing for HD, not at this point. Way to early to be looking into that. Now when the season ends, Coach will for sure look to lock some games in. I don't really see HD's current pre-season schedule as being a problem. Teams change their schedules all the time, especially at realignment. HD currently plays no perennial powerhouse on it's schedule, besides Groveton. All the other schools are traditionally average.
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[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1427462" timestamp="1377455455"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427447#msg1427447 date=1377453279]
[quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=113499.msg1427443#msg1427443 date=1377452762]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427433#msg1427433 date=1377451325]
Based on what I have been told by some local coaches that HD is canceling some of their sub level games because they cannot compete (then scheduling weaker teams), that very well could be the case.

Be surprised if Finney stayed past next season.
[/quote]lol  ::) Come on really. Not true at all. lol. The things people will say.  ??? HD may as well give up now and close the football program. lol SMH!  ::)
[/quote]


So you are saying that Finney has not canceled any sub level games with larger schools and substituted them with smaller or weaker level schools?
[/quote]Schedule will change based on realignment happening. As far as pre-season games changing for HD, not at this point. Way to early to be looking into that. Now when the season ends, Coach will for sure look to lock some games in. I don't really see HD's current pre-season schedule as being a problem. Teams change their schedules all the time, especially at realignment. HD currently plays no perennial powerhouse on it's schedule, besides Groveton. All the other schools are traditionally average.
[/quote]


And I am not talking about "after realignment". I know for a fact he canceled a sub level game with a school for this season. Played it last year and got thumped. Canceled this season and replaced with a weaker team. It left the other team without a game to play for this season. IMO, you should stick to the two year schedule.

According to some, this seems to be a pattern.
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Other than Kountze and Hardin, we have small school 2As and other 1A teams on the schedule. I don't know why HD would cancel any sub-varsity games this year. HD's JV scrimmaged Sabine Pass's varsity and competed well tying in the live portion and winning one of the controlled sessions. Not that Sabine Pass is anything special at all, it's still juniors and seniors playing against our freshmen and sophomores. I don't think HD's JV team looks great, but they will compete in 1A down the road. This will definitely be the most talented group HD will field for a while. That doesn't mean that Finney is leaving. He's a guy who's proven to be able to turn programs around so he's a hot commodity so he will get offers, especially if HD makes a run this post season. I mean come on guys, there's only 180 kids in the entire high school. Things can change in no time. One class with 6 or 7 athletes can mean be the difference in 2-8 and 8-2 in 1A.
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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1427476" timestamp="1377457124"]
[quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=113499.msg1427462#msg1427462 date=1377455455]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427447#msg1427447 date=1377453279]
[quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=113499.msg1427443#msg1427443 date=1377452762]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427433#msg1427433 date=1377451325]
Based on what I have been told by some local coaches that HD is canceling some of their sub level games because they cannot compete (then scheduling weaker teams), that very well could be the case.

Be surprised if Finney stayed past next season.
[/quote]lol  ::) Come on really. Not true at all. lol. The things people will say.  ??? HD may as well give up now and close the football program. lol SMH!  ::)
[/quote]


So you are saying that Finney has not canceled any sub level games with larger schools and substituted them with smaller or weaker level schools?
[/quote]Schedule will change based on realignment happening. As far as pre-season games changing for HD, not at this point. Way to early to be looking into that. Now when the season ends, Coach will for sure look to lock some games in. I don't really see HD's current pre-season schedule as being a problem. Teams change their schedules all the time, especially at realignment. HD currently plays no perennial powerhouse on it's schedule, besides Groveton. All the other schools are traditionally average.
[/quote]


And I am not talking about "after realignment". I know for a fact he canceled a sub level game with a school for this season. Played it last year and got thumped. Canceled this season and replaced with a weaker team. It left the other team without a game to play for this season. IMO, you should stick to the two year schedule.

According to some, this seems to be a pattern.
[/quote]Wish I knew the team your saying he dropped. I do know Beaumont Legacy canceled HD. HD has a stacked team this year, don't believe HD is worried about anybody.
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[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1427565" timestamp="1377468489"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427476#msg1427476 date=1377457124]
[quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=113499.msg1427462#msg1427462 date=1377455455]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427447#msg1427447 date=1377453279]
[quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=113499.msg1427443#msg1427443 date=1377452762]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427433#msg1427433 date=1377451325]
Based on what I have been told by some local coaches that HD is canceling some of their sub level games because they cannot compete (then scheduling weaker teams), that very well could be the case.

Be surprised if Finney stayed past next season.
[/quote]lol  ::) Come on really. Not true at all. lol. The things people will say.  ??? HD may as well give up now and close the football program. lol SMH!  ::)
[/quote]


So you are saying that Finney has not canceled any sub level games with larger schools and substituted them with smaller or weaker level schools?
[/quote]Schedule will change based on realignment happening. As far as pre-season games changing for HD, not at this point. Way to early to be looking into that. Now when the season ends, Coach will for sure look to lock some games in. I don't really see HD's current pre-season schedule as being a problem. Teams change their schedules all the time, especially at realignment. HD currently plays no perennial powerhouse on it's schedule, besides Groveton. All the other schools are traditionally average.
[/quote]


And I am not talking about "after realignment". I know for a fact he canceled a sub level game with a school for this season. Played it last year and got thumped. Canceled this season and replaced with a weaker team. It left the other team without a game to play for this season. IMO, you should stick to the two year schedule.

According to some, this seems to be a pattern.
[/quote]Wish I knew the team your saying he dropped. I do know Beaumont Legacy canceled HD. HD has a stacked team this year, don't believe HD is worried about anybody.
[/quote]
Yes!! So stacked!!
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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1427524" timestamp="1377463300"]
Sub level doesn't always mean JV. ;)
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Gotcha. I wasn't aware of any HD reschedules. I hate that if its true. I wouldn't think any teams on this year's schedule would be a total mismatch...unless we wouldn't be able to have a competitive 7th grade team against one of the 2As. I don't know but I do agree that we should stick to the schedule unless some big unforeseen event occurs.
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[quote name="utfan06" post="1427573" timestamp="1377470322"]
[quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=113499.msg1427565#msg1427565 date=1377468489]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427476#msg1427476 date=1377457124]
[quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=113499.msg1427462#msg1427462 date=1377455455]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427447#msg1427447 date=1377453279]
[quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=113499.msg1427443#msg1427443 date=1377452762]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427433#msg1427433 date=1377451325]
Based on what I have been told by some local coaches that HD is canceling some of their sub level games because they cannot compete (then scheduling weaker teams), that very well could be the case.

Be surprised if Finney stayed past next season.
[/quote]lol  ::) Come on really. Not true at all. lol. The things people will say.  ??? HD may as well give up now and close the football program. lol SMH!  ::)
[/quote]


So you are saying that Finney has not canceled any sub level games with larger schools and substituted them with smaller or weaker level schools?
[/quote]Schedule will change based on realignment happening. As far as pre-season games changing for HD, not at this point. Way to early to be looking into that. Now when the season ends, Coach will for sure look to lock some games in. I don't really see HD's current pre-season schedule as being a problem. Teams change their schedules all the time, especially at realignment. HD currently plays no perennial powerhouse on it's schedule, besides Groveton. All the other schools are traditionally average.
[/quote]


And I am not talking about "after realignment". I know for a fact he canceled a sub level game with a school for this season. Played it last year and got thumped. Canceled this season and replaced with a weaker team. It left the other team without a game to play for this season. IMO, you should stick to the two year schedule.

According to some, this seems to be a pattern.
[/quote]Wish I knew the team your saying he dropped. I do know Beaumont Legacy canceled HD. HD has a stacked team this year, don't believe HD is worried about anybody.
[/quote]
Yes!! So stacked!!
[/quote]Hey clown, do you always got to post a negative comment about HD. Kountze has never been a football school, stick to basketball. It's funny your team finally has a good squad and you think yall are Celina.  ::) lol! Soon very soon!  ;) :-*
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[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1427678" timestamp="1377482732"]
[quote author=DP8036 link=topic=113499.msg1427674#msg1427674 date=1377482510]
He dropped Deweyville on the JV schedule. Wonder why.  ;D ::)
[/quote]Still listed on my JV schedule. Groveton still on there too. Dville may have canceled. Come on, Dville ain't that good, never have been.
[/quote]

We're not listed on the JV schedule YOU posted from the school's website a week a two ago.
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[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1427678" timestamp="1377482732"]
[quote author=DP8036 link=topic=113499.msg1427674#msg1427674 date=1377482510]
He dropped Deweyville on the JV schedule. Wonder why.  ;D ::)
[/quote]Still listed on my JV schedule. Groveton still on there too. Dville may have canceled. Come on, Dville ain't that good, never have been.
[/quote]
They are good enough to stomp a mudhole in HD for the last two years and this year as well.
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[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1427672" timestamp="1377482408"]
[quote author=utfan06 link=topic=113499.msg1427573#msg1427573 date=1377470322]
[quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=113499.msg1427565#msg1427565 date=1377468489]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427476#msg1427476 date=1377457124]
[quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=113499.msg1427462#msg1427462 date=1377455455]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427447#msg1427447 date=1377453279]
[quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=113499.msg1427443#msg1427443 date=1377452762]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113499.msg1427433#msg1427433 date=1377451325]
Based on what I have been told by some local coaches that HD is canceling some of their sub level games because they cannot compete (then scheduling weaker teams), that very well could be the case.

Be surprised if Finney stayed past next season.
[/quote]lol  ::) Come on really. Not true at all. lol. The things people will say.  ??? HD may as well give up now and close the football program. lol SMH!  ::)
[/quote]


So you are saying that Finney has not canceled any sub level games with larger schools and substituted them with smaller or weaker level schools?
[/quote]Schedule will change based on realignment happening. As far as pre-season games changing for HD, not at this point. Way to early to be looking into that. Now when the season ends, Coach will for sure look to lock some games in. I don't really see HD's current pre-season schedule as being a problem. Teams change their schedules all the time, especially at realignment. HD currently plays no perennial powerhouse on it's schedule, besides Groveton. All the other schools are traditionally average.
[/quote]


And I am not talking about "after realignment". I know for a fact he canceled a sub level game with a school for this season. Played it last year and got thumped. Canceled this season and replaced with a weaker team. It left the other team without a game to play for this season. IMO, you should stick to the two year schedule.

According to some, this seems to be a pattern.
[/quote]Wish I knew the team your saying he dropped. I do know Beaumont Legacy canceled HD. HD has a stacked team this year, don't believe HD is worried about anybody.
[/quote]
Yes!! So stacked!!
[/quote]Hey clown, do you always got to post a negative comment about HD. Kountze has never been a football school, stick to basketball. It's funny your team finally has a good squad and you think yall are Celina.  ::) lol! Soon very soon!  ;) :-*
[/quote]
Ok lol "clown" ..because you HD fans think y'alls team is SO STACKED and is just gods gift to football lol that's ok Kountze has always been a basketball school and haven't earned respect in football.. yet.. GO HARDIN!! and leave some of the HD team left for Kountze in week one
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