UNLV

We can all agree the SBC is no SEC or PAC12. The SBC is at the bottom of the FBS and thinks it is too good for Lamar. Look at the numbers. Lamar fits the SBC profile currently in all sports except football. I find it very very very difficult to believe the SBC is not interested in Lamar, especially after adding Idaho. Put my bias aside, the logic and common sense is not there. Something else is in play if Lamar is not invited.

You guys do not seem to understand the big picture.

Arkansas pop. is 3 million
Alabama pop. is 4.8 million.
Louisiana pop. is 4.6 million
Houston msa pop. is 6.6 million.

A whole state within the SBC and the SBC is not interested.
Houston/Beaumont area has more NFL players than Arkansas and Alabama.
Not interested.

Lamar does not own the Houston market. Neither does Ark st own the Arkansas market or USA the Alabama market or ULL the Louisiana market.

Texas Tech Lubbock MSA 290,000
ULL Lafayette MSA  277,000
USA Mobile MSA 412,000
Lamar BPT MSA 392,000
Baylor Waco MSA  234,000

SBC, Pass...we aren't interested.
Something is wrong.

What will the SBC get by adding Lamar. Lone control of the football rich Golden Triangle, and area bigger than most SBC areas. 1 hour drive from Houston, an area bigger than most states in the SBC. Yet the SBC says pass. Something not right with that picture.

The argument against me is the same trick Obama is using. Obama is spending trillions, but when he cut back a little, he call it a cut in the deficit. Well all Lamar is doing is getting back to where it was before. Nothing new. Lamar has a ways to go before it really start breaking new ground. Simmons has helped a lot, but not enough. When I have time, I will post what I would do.

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[quote author=Titletown2 link=topic=111263.msg1399008#msg1399008 date=1367244399]
UNLV, if you could do all you say you could, you should've applied for the president's position while it was open. If you did apply, then the board of trustees thought you were full of s*** too!
[/quote]I agree, they would never pick me. If you look at Lamar over the past 40 years, [b]Lamar hasn't [b]changed, grown, or improved[/b] significantly.[/b] I am not the type of president wanted for Lamar.
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UNLV, if you could do all you say you could, you should've applied for the president's position while it was open. If you did apply, then the board of trustees thought you were full of s*** too!
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I'm sorry UNLV, I didn't emphasize the you"re full s*** part enough for you. When Jimmy Simmons became president Lamar had about 8,000 students, no football team, no women's soccer team, and no women's softball team. They also brought back the Marching Band and updated the Athletic facilities, to where they are among the best in the conference. Not to mention, a totally redone McDonald's Gym. They also had horrendous dorms. They now have Cardinal Village and the campus, it self looks 1000% better than it did when Dr. Simmons took over. This has led to Lamar have over 14,000 students. That's almost a 60% increase in enrollment. I would say that Lamar has changed, improved, and grown over the last 15 years, let alone 40. Again, I say you're full of it!
[/quote]What happened before Simmons? Where would Lamar be had Lamar been doing those things you mentioned and more for the past 40 years?  You don't mind answering those 2 questions.

If baseball playoffs started today.

http://sebaseball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1501045

SLC would have 2 teams in.

Attacking the person and not the arguments gets us nowhere.

[quote name="SabineRavine" post="1399095" timestamp="1367260120"]
You have a great self-concept of knowing what it takes to fix Lamar Athletics.  I'm curious . . . what career field do you work in?
[/quote]hehe, setting traps eh?  I don't need to be a president of a university to recognized Lamar's short comings. All Lamar does is to play it safe. Any Star Trek NG fans on the forum. There was an episode whereas the Q gave the captain a chance to re-live his life over. In the new life the captain was conservative, never took chances, and passive. In the new life he never became a captain of a starship.
Well this is the history of Lamar University. And you fans defend it and attack ppl like me who disagree with Lamar's just getting by mentality.

[quote name="Titletown2" post="1399008" timestamp="1367244399"]
UNLV, if you could do all you say you could, you should've applied for the president's position while it was open. If you did apply, then the board of trustees thought you were full of s*** too!
[/quote]I agree, they would never pick me. If you look at Lamar over the past 40 years, Lamar hasn't changed, grown, or improved significantly. I am not the type of president wanted for Lamar.

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LOL do you mean bankrupt and dropping sports in order to meet a continually dwindling budget resulting from fan apathy?
[/quote]You do understand Lamar dropped football, canceled sports, and dropped to the SLC by doing the opposite what I say Lamar should do.

If I was running Lamar, Lamar would be a $100 million research University with a campus population on 28k.
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Well, by all means, get this post and your resume' to the Board of Regents as quickly as possible.  Surely they have no idea about your abilities or availability. ::)
[/quote]Let me dumb it down for ppl like you. I think we all saw how well Simmons ran Lamar, which means we can recognize good leadership from bad. Correct?

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I understand. Too much DIESEL for ya.

There are people who can, and those who can not. Lamar has a long history of leaders who can not. And lets not forget the public that blindly supports the can not leadership. Hand shakes and pats on the back for just getting through the day or week or year or career.
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What the hell have you done for LAMAR except talk about it on message boards?  Have you given millions of dollars to the school because that's what it takes to succeed at the FBS level.  You run your mouth on all these message boards but every time someone asks you about how much money you have given to LAMAR you just dodge the question.  So I'm asking you, how much have you donated to LAMAR over the years?  A rough estimate is all you need to tell us.
[/quote]I gave Lamar my time, money, and support since I was a little chick-a-dee. I w\as at UNLV wearing my  Lamar University sweater. I haven't made a million dollar donation to Lamar because Lamar  could use my money to do dumb things like dropping football. Did I dodge again?

I understand. Too much DIESEL for ya.

There are people who can, and those who can not. Lamar has a long history of leaders who can not. And lets not forget the public that blindly supports the can not leadership. Hand shakes and pats on the back for just getting through the day or week or year or career.

[quote name="SabineRavine" post="1398496" timestamp="1367026982"]
LOL do you mean bankrupt and dropping sports in order to meet a continually dwindling budget resulting from fan apathy?
[/quote]You do understand Lamar dropped football, canceled sports, and dropped to the SLC by doing the opposite what I say Lamar should do.

If I was running Lamar, Lamar would be a $100 million research University with a campus population on 28k.

[quote name="NorthoftheBorder" post="1397880" timestamp="1366905345"]
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This why lesser communities and smaller schools achieve so much more while Lamar gets left behind. You believe it can't be done, it'll never be done.
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The belief by Billy Tubbs that "little ole Lamar" could achieve great things in basketball with almost no budget and playing in McDonald Gym is why LU basketball was as successful as it was in the lat 70s and early 80's!
[/quote]Billy Tubbs is from Tulsa. He does not have the SE Texas can't be done mentality.

This why lesser communities and smaller schools achieve so much more while Lamar gets left behind. You believe it can't be done, it'll never be done.

[quote name="ShlyKBMT" post="1397712" timestamp="1366841991"]
I don't think Texas State and Lamar would fill Reliant at all. Texas State can't even get their students to go into their own stadium, that's a problem an actual Texas State employee told me. They tailgate then head back on campus. Same problem Lamar is starting to have now. People tailgate but never make it into the stadium. SFA and Sam have had championship contending teams the past 3 years and have had good crowds for FCS schools.

2012- 26,185
2011- 25, 083
2010- 24, 685

I'm a proud Lamar Cardinal but all I see from fans is excuses of why they can't go to games. I can't imagine they would travel to Houston.
[/quote]Texas st students go home for the weekend + Texas  st alum in Houston + true Texas st fans + PU stadium boring/Reliant exciting Lamar fans + SE Texans in Houston + curious Houston sports fans(6.6 million can at least yield 3,000)= 60,000.

I don't think Lamar/SHSU could fill Reliant. I don't think Lamar/SFA could fill Reliant. Lamar/Texas st, YES.
There is more than enough SE Texans living in Houston. Have ads target them as a SE Texas re-union at Reliant. Texas st will bring a boat load. It can be done if done correctly.

STOP THINKING LIKE A SOUTHEAST TEXANS. SHSU and SFA hold their game at Reliant. Lamar and Texas st would easily double the attendance.

It makes no sense at all for the SBC to invite Idaho-football only over a school that would be all sports and within the footprint. And a foot in the Houston area especially if Lamar and Texas st could hold its football games at Reliant.

If I was Lamar, I would advertise on the Houston area radio stations. If you are from the BPT area living in Houston, lets have a tailgate and reunion at the annual Texas st/Lamar game at Reliant. I could see 60,000 at that game. Socializing more than watching the game, but still.

If Lamar was to join the SBC, would it not be very beneficial for Lamar and Texas st to play all conference games between the 2 schools at Reliant. Just as SFA and Sam. Both LU and Texas st fans could travel well to Reliant. That would be so freaking cool considering the number of Beaumont-ers living in Houston.

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Has anyone talked to Jason Henderson in awhile.  Wonder if anything has changed.
[/quote]Lamar is either confident or hiding under the desk after once again being the clowns of all the NCAA.
[/quote]LOL!! You are diehard LU.
[/quote]I wont be for long if Lamar mess this up. The question is why would the SBC take no one and lose money before taking Lamar?  something ain't right with this picture.

We will find out within the next 2.5 weeks who gets the final FBS slot. Internet rumors has the finalist as
James Madison
Liberty
Jax st
Alabama st
Lamar.

James Madison is interested in going FBS, but does not want to play in a conference with low academics and teams spread across the south. BTW, JMU is about 125 miles from Washington D.C.

Liberty is said to be out via internet rumors.
Jax st is smaller than Lamar, in a town 8 square miles...Beaumont is 85 square miles, in a small state 4.8 million that already has 5 FBS.

Alabama st....probably someones joke.

Lamar fits perfectly in the SBC footprint. Fair size, medium market, growing, a great fit. YET, the SBC seem to see Lamar as the worse trash/garbage. Lamar on the list seem to be symbolic with no real serious talk of possibly getting the 12th. Why?  The SBC is looking to take no one, losing millions, before taking Lamar. Why?

[quote name="jdcurran235" post="1392811" timestamp="1365537790"]
Has anyone talked to Jason Henderson in awhile.  Wonder if anything has changed.
[/quote]Lamar is either confident or hiding under the desk after once again being the clowns of all the NCAA.

Beating Tech would stop the Lamar trashing seen all over the net.