were a team - m.n.f.

You are so right. This season will soon be over i sure hope the drama will be over to . Just to let all the readers know the first time Warren played Kountze we had 3 good players out not just 1 . I guess everyone is worried about # 6 except her . #6 took her punishment for missing practice ,accepted it and still plays for these coaches . I know these girls love to play volleyball and love there coaches . They will sure miss there setter in these playoff games but also know it was her choice not to be there . I think the only one to be ashamed for there actions is the person who after the playoff game in Buna decided to scream and cuss our coach in front of her players, because he didnt like how things went . There is a time and place for everything that was not the time or the place . Talk about morals where was his. Our parents and fans support our girls and coaches, monday nights game was proof. They traveled a long way to support us . THANK YOU ! I belive this web site is good for updating games not for airing dirty laundry .Good luck Lady Warriors i hope you go far !!! I'll start a new thread about this so that the other one doesn't get "locked" or whatever. There is definately more than one person that should be "ashamed" of their actions, and none of those people include the one person, who in your opinion, "screamed and cussed the coach in front of her players." First of all, when this person did what he did, every single player was still inside the building. The person said nothing to the coach in front of any of the girls, or parents for that matter (not that i know of anyway.) The parents were also still inside the building, comforting their girls who had just lost. The person also never screamed, nor did the person cuss; the only profane word to leave the mouth of any person, actually came from one of the coaches. So congratulations on trying to make this person sound like they were out of place, or for trying to say that he or she was in the wrong, but you just made yourself sound stupid not knowing the facts. If you want to run your mouth about something, get your crap straight first. And "Where was his morals?" Well first off it should be, "Where were his morals?", but WHERE were the coaches morals? You made that statement as if he had cussed and yelled, when it was a coach that used unnecessary language.

and another question.... how is BEING SICK "having better things to do than practice"? yet another statement that you have made that proves since you "weren't at practice and weren't in the locker room" you know nothing about the situation. your "reliable sources" don't sound so reliable.

Okay so first of all, CoachKfan, how can you give a "hats off to you for sticking to your rules" compliment, when apparently you don't know what the rules are at warren. You also said that a statement should have been "everyone THINKS they know what is going on in Warren, Texas," and that "unless you are at the practice and in the locker room, you know nothing," well I'm guessing you know NOTHING then because I don't recall you being at either. Before the Thursday night playoff between Kountze, Hardin, and Warren, there was no "rule" that said makeups couldn't be done on gameday. It had been done before (by the same player that needed to do them that particular day (Shaina), and also by another player) The no "makeups on game day" rule came into effect ON THAT GAMEDAY, which makes no sense at all. If you are in a three way tie for first place, it doesn't seem like (as a coach that WANTED TO WIN) you would make up new rules that would cause one of the best players on the team to have to sit the bench. As waa-town said, Warren had played Kountze twice before, once with ALL of their players, once without Shaina (due to a back injury that she had.) The time that Warren played without her, they got beat, and when they played with her.. with THEIR WHOLE TEAM ON THE COURT.. they won. So it seems that the smart decision, and the best decision, would be to put the whole team, in their OWN positions on the court. Not to have multiple players in positions in which they are unaccustomed to playing. I have noticed before, that this particular player that was being made to sit out, isn't exactly the coach's favorite player. They make things more difficult for her, than for any other player on the team. She rarely does anything right in their eyes. They'll find things to gripe about, even when what she does is closer to perfection than any other girl on the team could achieve. I guarantee you, had the same thing happened to a different player, a "better liked" player on the team, she would have been permitted to play. And Shaina should have been playing anyway. No, she had not been at school most of the previous day(she had been sick.. throwing up), but she showed up for athletics and volleyball practice. She (like a lot of other girls on the team) put her shoes in her locker after the game Tuesday night, so when she showed up to school FOR ATHLETICS AND VOLLEYBALL PRACTICE on Wednesday, it was impossible for her to already have them on. The coach ASSUMED (and i think we all know what assuming does) that since her shoes were not already on her feet, that she was not "prepared" to practice. Before Shaina had a chance to go in the locker room and put her shoes on, the coach told her to sit down, so she did as told. Then the coach recommended that the other players stay away from her so that they did not also get sick. Then she held a little "team meeting" and once that meeting was over, she told Shaina that since she was sick she just needed to go home. Shaina said she would practice, but the coach said no. THEREFORE, SHAINA SHOWED UP FOR PRACTICE, BUT WAS ASKED TO LEAVE. SO HOW CAN SHE BE PUNISHED THE NEXT DAY FOR "NOT SHOWING UP TO PRACTICE?????" (that's what the coaches tried to blame her punishment on.) AND ALSO, to try and prove just how badly she wanted to play, Shaina showed up at school that Thursday morning extra early and did her makeup running (since she had been able to do that before) yet the coach did not accept it. As a coach, aren't you being paid to do your best to produce a WINNING TEAM? I mean, if you're going to take the time to coach, shouldn't you coach to win? And wouldn't coaching to win require putting your best players on the court? Now, had she SKIPPED practice and acted as though she didn't care to play, the coaches decision would have been understandable. As for the setter that quit: You were at the game right? And you have also seen other Warren games previous to that one? Well, could you honestly see a difference in her performance that Thursday night, verses any other game she has ever played? No, she may not have CHEERED, but she wasn't at a CHEERLEADING COMPETITION. It is not her responsibility as a VOLLEYBALL PLAYER to CHEER. It is her responsibility to play VOLLEYBALL, which she did. Maybe she did "pout" (as you put it.) She clearly was in disagreement with the coaches ummm.. idiotic decision... and was aggravated with the way things were going. But "POUTING" doesn't lose a game, and in this case, it didn't even affect the way she played. Then after the game she was called out and questioned. One of the things she was asked was "Do you even want it anymore?" Multiple other things were said that were indirectly accusing her of "not playing." Multiple people had been informed that she "threw" the game. And it was said that the people behind it were her coaches and teammates. People from the stands said that it didn't appear that way, and said that the VOLLEYBALL GIRLS were the ones that were starting all the rumors. The setter didn't quit because her "feelings were hurt." I think she could really care less about that. She didn't agree with her coaches, and didn't feel like what had been done was the best decision. If the coaches wanted to punish a player, punish her individually, don't punish the rest of the team, and jeopardize what they have going for them. Comments had been made by other teammates that they "didn't care whether or not Shaina played." Does that sound like a team to you? What would you do if YOUR team "didn't care"? Just because the setter DID care, doesn't mean that she was in the wrong. And as far as "putting their OWN agenda before the team" (i think that's what you were trying to say.. OWN rather than ON) and that you heard she was "elected to work a concession stand rather than attend a practice" The setter had made prior obligations to work at the pee wee football games. She wouldn't be able to make practice because BEFORE SHE KNEW about the practice, she said she would work. She had a RESPONSIBILITY to work and since she would miss practice, she would have makeups. Well since Monday was a "game day" she couldn't do her makeups could she? Therefore, she wouldn't have played. (which goes back to the "new rule" that she was in disagreement with from the beginning) She would have had to sit out on game day, like Shaina did. So based on this and the fact that her coaches did not respect her (or any other player on the team for that matter), and she no longer respected them, she quit. The coaches should have been mature enough to take the blame for the loss, because they made an idiotic decision and they knew it. But rather than do that, as good coaches do, (admit when they're wrong) they tried to blame the loss on the setter. She did not "let her team down." Her teammates and coaches let her down.