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4 hours ago, BMT Truth said:

My brother in Christ... Vince Lombardi couldn't win games with West Brook right now. There's so many things wrong there and in the city. Easy to blame coaching, but nobody wants to acknowledge the truth about how terrible the culture of the school and city is. The kids run the school. Discipline is a joke at West Brook. Also, don't just say there's "talent" there, when really, there isn't much. Every year young families move out of Beaumont more and more. The city has to give these kids a reason to love football. It is a basketball city now. If the kids who play basketball all played football too, it would be a different story. But look at the facilities and the fields Beaumont football kids practice on every day. Some of the worst in the entire state. We got 2A and 3A schools with better and nicer stuff than the 2 biggest schools in SETX. That's what is sad and pathetic. 

You hit the nail on the head.  People want to blame the coaching because it makes them feel better that the talent just isn’t there and they don’t want to acknowledge the issues with the district. BISD becoming more inner city like HISD with dominant basketball and lauaghable football.  It’s not the coaches fault they don’t have much talent or the kids have no discipline.  

I’m not from Beaumont but live here

now and I’m not familiar with the cliques everyone is referring to. The current coach at Brook has legit credentials. I’m not sure coaching is the issue, but rather think the admin is. I also don’t think that Brook has a whole lot of talent right now. They’ve got a good QB but other than that are there any other D1 prospects?   It could just be that WB isn’t very good bc they are in an extremely tough district and they lack talent. 

18 minutes ago, lil tokyo said:

It's a combination of both. Kids are leaving the programs that were studs. If that 2024 freshman class would've stayed together, they would be able to compete in this district. They had the talent and competed well in the district I think they only lost 2 district games and that was due to players being hurt and one moved up to varsity.  Then you have kids getting kicked off the team because of bad attitudes or smoking weed and vaping. Its other factors besides coaching. Yes, the OC need to do better with play calling. He had one successful drive last night with play calling and it resulted in a TD.  Also, the kids have to stop getting crazy penalties. Now to their defense the officiating was horrible (beginning of the year jitters i get it) however, the kids have to execute the play. You cant expect your defense to hold drives and the offense has you right back on the field in less than a min or two. Its a lot going on at Westbrook and the score doesn't tell the whole picture. They don't tackle at practice and film sessions are nonexistent.  

There are many reasons football is bad at brook. If you look, however, at the successful programs now in Texas most of them are suburban schools that have a lot more money.  Unfortunately, people are fleeing the BISD school system for a multitude of reasons, some reasonable and some not.  If Brook dropped to 5a it would help, but as long as they stay 6a they are going to struggle against the wealthier teams and the more they struggle, the more people will transfer and it just keeps getting worse. Their only hope is to drop classifications and then they’ll probably compete a little better but not state championships. The ship has sailed.  

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22 minutes ago, Kowboy98 said:

But in basketball this will be a very different conversation 

Agreed. But we aren’t talking basketball and it’s a sport where you don’t need as many kids and facilities don’t make a huge difference.   Dont get me wrong, I wish and hope Beaumont gets better in football, but I realistically don’t see it happening.  Too many things in the community at large are against them. 

I posted the following in the WB Summer Creek thread

WB and BU are low on talent lately but even if Beaumont had 1 school, 2 schools, or 3 it wouldn’t make a difference. For the most part, and there are a few exceptions but not many, the successful schools in 5 and 6a are large suburban schools in which the districts have money and the parents too.  The schools have better facilities, coaches, and the parents have money to pay for individual coaching.   For the most part WB and BU are missing both of these two ingredients. It’s sad, but Beaumont ain’t what it used to be and it’s getting much worse.  The schools are dangerously close to being like inner city schools. This isn’t the kids fault and I feel sorry for them because it’s the parents and former administrators that ruined everything.   Maybe they can turn it around but it’s unlikely. A drop to 5a might help but people of all types are leaving BISD and I think that’s what left won’t win many games. 

WB is low on talent lately but even if Beaumont had 1 school, 2 schools, or 3 it wouldn’t make a difference. For the most part, and there are a few exceptions but not many, the successful schools in 5 and 6a are large suburban schools in which the districts have money and the parents too.  The schools have better facilities, coaches, and the parents have money to pay for individual coaching.   For the most part WB and BU are missing both of these two ingredients. It’s sad, but Beaumont ain’t what it used to be and it’s getting much worse.  The schools are dangerously close to being like inner city schools. This isn’t the kids fault and I feel sorry for them because it’s the parents and former administrators that ruined everything.   Maybe they can turn it around but it’s unlikely. A drop to 5a might help but people of all types are leaving BISD and I think that’s what left won’t win many games.