TheBigSwitch

If the 8 year old you are referring to busted weight in the peewee division then he would have played in the junior division not the senior division.  So he would be playing against 9 and 10 year olds.

We will follow UIL rules for calling or postponing a game.  If a game is postponed, we will not push the whole schedule back a week, the game or games will be looked at and determined if they have any affect on the play-offs or seeding.  If they need to be played they will be rescheduled.

I wasn't trying to fight anything and don't feel my story necessarily lacks the whole truth. Just trying to understand how/why and maybe what it takes to get waivers/exceptions granted.

It did not affect me personally it affected friends.  It affected 7/8 year olds (PeeWee) that live in a district in which was allowed to participate based on elementary schools; however, they do not go to private school or home schooled but attend school in which their parents work (Buna, Nederland, Orange etc.) which is a different district from their address.  One did attend the proper school but his parent started working in another school district this fall; therefore, the children go to that school now but still live in the boundaries but had to withdraw since he no longer attended one of these schools.

Eligibility requirements that were given to these players prior to registration was as follows:

Who’s Eligible? Players (public, private, or home school) must be able to prove residence in the boundaries of these BISD schools: Amelia, Caldwood, Sallie Curtis, Regina Howell, Vincent and Marshall. Players must also be able to prove residence in the 77706 or 77707 zip codes. The rules, eligibility, and ages of the players are set by the hosting league in which WBBIFL is a member, the Southeast Texas Junior Football League.

These kids met these requirements of proof of residence in boundaries of 1 of the 4 elementary schools AND proof of residence in 06/07 zip codes. But were denied.  But, there are those that were allowed to play that can prove residence in boundary but not zip code... Also, those that are not zoned for these schools based on their residency but attend one of them so they are eligible as well.

There are those that the older siblings meet the Vincent/Marshall requirement AND Zip but the younger siblings are ineligible cuz they don't meet the elementary requirement and would have to wait till 11/12 yrs old to play...

All I am saying is that these kids weren't even offered the option of playing in the district for which they attended school cuz they were told that would be playing out of the district in which they resided. So, they couldn't play according to the above eligibility nor could they play where they attended school.

But, if I understand what you are saying is that they could have played in Buna, Nederland, PN, Orange etc for STJFL or LJF depending on the league that the school participated in which they attend. The board didn't give them that option.  No play was the only option provided.

I do not want to form a new association just trying to understand. My children have played in both LJF and STJFL and I'm not dragging down either one. It just seems unfair that of no fault of theirs they couldn't play cuz their parents chose not to send them to the school in which they were zoned nor private school nor have the feasibility to homeschool because they work outside of the district in which they live.  I felt that attending school elsewhere was no different than attending private school or being homeschooled as long as they met the same requirements as private/homeschooled kids. I also felt, as well as some others, that this was something that could have met a waiver or been considered for the exceptions/special considerations.

Just an opinion an I'm not trying to bash anyone or any organization.

AllSportsMom,

With all due respect, I was at the board meeting the night your friends presented their case.  I am not going to say that we have the best rules to fit every situation that will arise, but we have put a lot of time and effort into making them.  We did tell them that this by-law would be reviewed and if changes need to be made then we would propose changing it.  They were also told that there was a league in Buna that they could more thatn likely participate in.  So the fact that we told them that they could not play anywhere out of their district and that the only option was not to play is just not correct, we cannot control were a kid plays outside of STJFL.  As far as the requirements that you listed, those were imposed on top of what our by-laws already stated because Beaumont is such a large area.  So you would need to go and follow what the by-laws state and then look at what is specific to Beaumont.  Hopefully we will get the by-laws revised to better suit our growing league, sometimes change is needed.  As far as waivers go the deadline had passed and you cannot waiver a by-law, that is why no waiver was submitted.

It is our goal that all kids have an opportunity to play, all kids that meet the requirements of the STJFL by-laws and rules.  Obviously we cannot just allow all kids from everywhere to come in and play.  The rules are there for a good reason, but sometimes we out grow the rules and need to revise them.  With that said we don't realize it until it happens, that we need to revise it. 

Nathan

Was on the game field today around 4:pm, it was not that wet, depends on how much more rain we get.

Your right I miss read you post.

You are trying to tell us that Silsbee will be Lumbertons toughest game all year and Silsbee just got ran over by LCM come on Aggie.  I know it was just a scrimmage but they don't look that good.  I have been to both Sisbee scrimmages and they are OK at best.  I thing there are some tougher teams in 4a than Silsbee. 

One statistic has been left out, the fact that WOS has done it in 5A, 4A and 3A.  Also to the point about Newton being the smallest in 3A that is true and great, but remember WOS was in 4A and one of the smaller in 4A when they were crowned winningest program.  Both are great programs.

Bottom line, when you are talking football, WOS has the highest winning percentage in the state of Texas across all classifications.  The were deemed the winningest football program in the state.  They are ranked 20th in the nation by winning percentage.  There were only 3 teams in the top 50 from Texas and none if the teams listed in this post were on there except WOS.  So with that said WOS is it period, you can't argue the facts.

From another poster that was there also.

coop, wrong info: kirbyville 2  -  silsbee 1 ( first teams both ways)

johnson one run for about 50+ yds for td, sacked once but no other pos. yd runs. about 4 for 10 on passing

for maybe 50 yds . running game wasnt very impressive, kirbyville will be very good in 2 a this year.

kirbyville had a 65 yd td run & a 50+ pass play for td. kirbyville defense was better than silsbee d.

kirbyville moved the ball on the ground at about 6 to 7 yd average. recievers dropped 2 balls for silsbee.

good scrimmage both sides. deweyville went against 2nd teams offense & defenses, did good i left at this point. wos will be favorite again until the other wannabeeeeees nock them off.       

Score was 2-1 Silsbee

Silsbee's 2nd team ran 12 plays against Deweyville's 1st team defense, gained 260 yards and 4 TD's.

Aggie I was there and I don't think you have your score accurate, you might want to check that again.  I believe that Kville scored on their first play and on a long pass later.

Topgun,

Jr High practice usually does not start until the first day of school.

many players didnt play for moody last year who is very quick. I was trying to make a point about the 40's when i said 5 and stuff but i can name 3 players that i know is in the 4.4's or low 4.5's that was always shadowed in moody program and one of them was at wos last year for a while but moved back to lcm to be with his dad. jeremy chauvin is lightning quick but never got talked about under moody's program. and tevvin jones was the starting running back from last year and as we seen last year he has speed, and Johnny epps was at wos and was a great force on defense and from what was said he was a starter after the first scrimmage...

Epps was a starter on the JV he never played varsity

Toby Forman - WOS

2009 - 3a

State Track Champions

I agree MMSLB,

Speed and strength and all those other things are great, but if there is no discipline, character and if they are not coachable you have nothing.  That should be evedent in a few schools in our area, all the talent and speed in the world and can't hardly win a game.

Then I apologize for the confusion on my part.

How about Character?

I don't remeber seeing him when they played WOS.

Sly,

You don't sent you child to a private school if this is who I think it is.  That is the reason your son is being denied as was explained at the board meeting.  Please don't come on here and start a bunch of mess.  There are a lot of kids in the STJFL that go to private schools that play in the district that they live in. But there are none that attend another public school and play in a different district.  At least none that we currently know about, nothing is perfect.  Please accept the fact that we are going to follow our bylaws on this.  We can revisit it during the off season, but for now it is a dead issue.  Thanks for understanding.

Part of the problem, from what I understand the booster club is not for the athletic department, correct me if I am wrong here.

Had they not added time to Trey's time he would have set a new 3a regional recored by 2 tenths of a second. With the added time Jeremy would have a 11.1, not a 10.88 he was nowhere close to franks

Trey actually maked a 10.37 inthe 100, but some how the track officials determined that the wind that was blowing almost directly in their face was aiding them in the 100.  I am not sure how that happens. But oh well he still go the win by about 5 yards.

Sign ups:

When: Saturday may 9th and 16th

Time: 10:am- 2:pm

Where: Little Cypress - Mauriceville High School Weight Room/Fieldhouse

Signing up football players and cheerleaders ages 5-12, 6th grade and under.

tiger,

That was Trey's prelim time, he ran a 10.53 in the final

nikespeed

You must be one of those bleeding heart liberals that think no one is ever resonsilbe for there actions or that no kid is ever wrong it is always us adults.

From what the news reported the kid punched him in the face a few times, and he was treated at the hospital and released.  I really don't think the kid was just walking away.  Atleast all of the kids that I talked to that watched it happen said he was fighting the officer.  I think the officer did what he should have done.

land*shark,

The STJFL allows kids to return to there team if it is in the same division.  The only way they would have to go back in to the draft every year is if your local association has that in place or if you had an expansion team that year which is a whole other ball of wax.