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Impressive ground game. Those hosses up front and the stable of backs, wow. We didn't tackle well either, especially on third downs for some reason. I will make another prediction here and know...Livingston goes undefeated in this district. And no one from this district gets past the second round! Defenses are way too suspect (Lions fans gotta admit their team didn't fair very well defensively). Another tough loss for Indian fans. Three losses in the last minute of the game. Begining to wonder when the trend is bucked and our boys make the play to win one of those games. Hey Lionfan, see how we returned to the MB after a loss...Take note!

Just pointed out the facts. Sometimes the truth hurts. ;D Never even made any suggestions concerning my Indians. [quote name="raideroldtimer" post="855107" timestamp="1285350126"] Love the fact that it's usually an Indian or a Beaumont team fan that usually brings up our opponents records and last years records. The same fans whose teams  collectively are 3-6, but of course you guys played world class [b]teams that you have no chance of beating at the end of the year either [/b] (thought I'd put that in before one of you talks about your opponents abilities). [/quote] You really think PNG would stand no chance against 3 & 0 GP (1 point last minute loss) or 3 & 0 TxCity (2 point last second loss) a second time around? I agree the BMT schools would not beat WB or PAM if they had a second shot, but we didn't exactly get throttled in our two losses. We agree on one thing, we are all 0-0 right now and if Livingston throttles us tonight I will admit we have trouble, but if the results are anyhting like last season??

The winner of the WOS/KVille tilt next week!

[quote name="LHSMRBoscar" post="855070" timestamp="1285346522"] Lumberton-(3-0) Livingston-(3-0) LCM-(3-0) Just wanted to point out the excellence in pre-district games of last years "worst" teams Hopefully all will have a good year! [/quote] 2010 Opponents records Lumberton (1-3)(1-2)(2-2)=(4-7) Livingston (1-3)(1-3)(0-3)=(2-9) LCM        (0-3)(1-2)(1-2)=(2-7)   Only one team without a loosing record and none with a winning record 2009 Pre-District Lumberton-(3-0) Livingston-(2-1) LCM-(2-1) District Lumberton-(2-5) Livingston-(2-5) LCM-(2-5) Herein lies the general skepticism sourounding the 2010 Pre-District for the 3 L's!  ;)

[quote name="Lionfan" post="854329" timestamp="1285261883"] PNG fans have a lot of faith in a two loss team. [/quote] And I predict that much like last season when Livingston rolled into this matchup with a 4-1 record and talked all kinds of smack, you will go AWOL once again after Friday Night!  ;D

[quote name="mfd814" post="854281" timestamp="1285257472"] He is a kid.  Most kids these days, you cannot get them to put the phone down, it just kills them.  [b]If he is texting on the sideline, thats a coaches area or his parent to handle[/b]. If someone asked him to pose for a pic and he said no , not during a game,  how many would blast him for thinking he as too good to take a pic, when he is not in uniform.   Both of the boys are kids,they make mistakes, we all need to remember that.  [/quote] Good points, but I understand it to be that nobody is handling it (see bold above). Herein lies the problem. Others feel a double standard for the guy with the tattoo that reads "The Chosen One"! ;)

The Indians have prooven that they are tuff against the run. Livingston has throw 8 passes all season and beaten 3 teams that are a combined 1-10. I'll go with my injuns in this one.

[quote name="raideroldtimer" post="848767" timestamp="1284682064"] [quote author=badndn link=topic=72941.msg848583#msg848583 date=1284661461] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=72941.msg846800#msg846800 date=1284426426] [quote author=utguy09 link=topic=72941.msg846793#msg846793 date=1284426120] Yea non-district regular games. [/quote] Lumberton is 3-0, with these wins: 56-35 over Jasper 33-13 over Barbers Hill 21-14 over Silsbee [/quote] 2009 Lumberton was 4-0 with these wins: 40-14 over HF 35-29 over Barbers Hill (better BH team last year) 20-14 over Silsbee (better silsbee team last year) 42-35 over Livingston They went 1-5 the rest of the way, which is a big reason that folks are hesitant to pick the Raiders yet, myself included. I also read alot about the LTrain defense on here, but they are giving up 21 pts per game so far. Not something to write home about. PNG has given up 19.6 Pts per game to pretty good 4A competition and our Defense is our weekness so far! LCM-27 Lum-24 [/quote] Dude, if it weren't for your big win over Crosby, which is apparently not nearly as good as last years team, PNG's defensive points allowed would be more like 26 points per game average get off your high horse. [/quote] Well DUDE, if you read the post again you will notice that the point I was making is that PNG has given up almost 20 PPG and thats not good. Not sure how you see that as being on a "high horse". We ain't bragging about. It's actually just the opposite! But on the flip side of that Lumberton is actually giving up more PPG than PNG and you guys are bragging about the defense! So by your analogy that Crosby is weak and we only gave up 7 points to them therefore bringing our PPG against numbers down, how do you explain Lumbertons numbers against 3 weak opponents. And before Silsbee fans get upset, I completely understand that the tigers were without their starting QB in the first half as Lumberton jumped out to a 21-0 lead, then clawed back in the second half when he returned to the game to make it a 21-14 game. The weakness comes in lossing your QB.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="846800" timestamp="1284426426"] [quote author=utguy09 link=topic=72941.msg846793#msg846793 date=1284426120] Yea non-district regular games. [/quote] Lumberton is 3-0, with these wins: 56-35 over Jasper 33-13 over Barbers Hill 21-14 over Silsbee [/quote] 2009 Lumberton was 4-0 with these wins: 40-14 over HF 35-29 over Barbers Hill (better BH team last year) 20-14 over Silsbee (better silsbee team last year) 42-35 over Livingston They went 1-5 the rest of the way, which is a big reason that folks are hesitant to pick the Raiders yet, myself included. I also read alot about the LTrain defense on here, but they are giving up 21 pts per game so far. Not something to write home about. PNG has given up 19.6 Pts per game to pretty good 4A competition and our Defense is our weekness so far! LCM-27 Lum-24

Forney!

[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="847397" timestamp="1284489785"] [quote author=GoodwIN link=topic=72455.msg846991#msg846991 date=1284434108] Hey, whats going on with central this year? Are they young, or just playing good teams? Also Ball isnt that Bad, their predicted to make the playoffs in 24-4A this year so congrates on the win. Sometimes all teams need is that 1 win to get things going [/quote] Ball won't be anywhere near the playoffs!  You heard it here first.  :o [/quote] And you heard it here second. I've seen TC, FWood and Ball so far...TC and FWood are light years ahead of Ball. Not to mention Manvel, Lamarque, and even 3-0 Santa Fe. Ball will finish last in that district. They just got the prediction based on a drop from 5A.

Agreed. Also remember that Chase is only a Junior. Remember how much bigger and stronger caleb got between his junior and senior FB seasons. Word is Chase is working with Caleb just as Caleb did with Josh before him. I love that our RB's feed experience down to the next guy. It's like a fraternity. Good Stuff.

As for those that keep wanting to point at the lose of Harmon as an issue or that Bertrand is an issue take a look at the numbers for each after three games this year and last. Yr                  Carries              Yards            YPC          TD 2009 Harmon        60                361                6.01          4 2010 Bertrand      72                391                5.43          3 Were you giving up on Harmon at this point last year or singing his praises, cause the numbers are pretty comprable?

A Break Down So Far in order of record and Alphabetic LCM 3-0 Record of teams played (1-7). LCM has given up 91 Pts. Livingston 2-0 Record of teams played (0-5). A struggling young 3A and a Houston team...Nuff said. Lumberton 3-0 Record of teams played (3-5). Two 3A's and BHill. Central 1-2 Record of teams played (7-2). -86 pts in two losses to good 5A's and a win against a bad Ball team (anyone who watched Balls backup QB heave passes up to whoever was around understands). Nederland 1-2 Record of teams played (2-6). Where WOS has proven it's legit, GCM has proven it's not! BH?? Really?? PNG 1-2 Record of teams played (6-3). 3 points is the differnce in being 3-0. GP has given up a total of 16 pts in it's other two games against power Callallen and 5A Carroll. Ozen 1-2 Record of teams played (7-2). -42 pts in two losses to good 5A's and a win against a bad Houston Sterling team. Look better than Central so far! Vidor 0-3 Record of teams played (8-1). Two 3A's and a good 4A. Who I Got 1. PNG 2. LCM 3. Lumberton 4. Ozen 5. Livingston 6. Central 7. Nederland 8. Vidor

[quote name="GCMPats" post="842903" timestamp="1284122822"] [quote author=dayton link=topic=72708.msg842884#msg842884 date=1284120069] [quote author=GCMPats link=topic=72708.msg842842#msg842842 date=1284093465] Yes. [/quote] and these were onside kicks and not those high pooch kicks?? [/quote] Onside kicks. Only in the first half. [/quote] The fact that they attempted three onside kicks ain't the problem...It's that the y were successfull three times! Yikes.

I will go out on a limb and say that BH will regret firing Price for Gage from a system perspective.  You can't win against the big boys without throwing the ball some anymore!

[quote name="Raider42" post="842004" timestamp="1283976278"] [color=crimson]I know it's early yet, but I do not think it is going to look like this come the end of district play.  From what I have seen, I am guessing more like this (if we can keep a healthy QB) 1. PNG 2. Nederland 3. Central 4. LCM 5. Lumberton 6. Livingston 7. Ozen 8. Vidor[/color] All for supporting your team but no way can I see Nederland being #2.... I think PNG is the tops of the district but all other spots are up for grabs... I think Ozen will surprise some people (#7 would be a disappionting year for all that speed) [/quote] I think this is based on the Bulldogs getting Forney back next week before district. If this happens and they can become balanced on offense with what looks to be an improving running game, then I can see Nederland doing well in district.

[b][color=red]PA Memorial[/color][/b] @ Alice [b][color=red]W[/color][color=blue]e[/color][color=red]s[/color][color=blue]t[/color] [color=red]B[/color][color=blue]r[/color][color=red]o[/color][color=blue]o[/color][color=red]k[/color] [/b] @ Aldine Eisenhower Angleton @ [b][color=purple]Dayton[/color][/b] [b][color=goldenrod]Galveston Ball [/color] [/b] @ Beaumont Central Houston Sterling @ [b][color=blue]Ozen[/color][/b] Houston Washington @ [b][color=green]Livingston[/color][/b] Lumberton @ [b][color=maroon]Silsbee[/color][/b] Houston Worthing @ [b][color=crimson]Jasper[/color][/b] [b][color=green]L[/color][color=goldenrod]C[/color][color=green]M[/color] [/b] @ Conroe Caney Creek [b][color=black]Nederland[/color][/b] @ Barbers Hill [b][color=purple]PNG[/color][/b] @ Texas City Vidor @ [b][color=red]Kirbyville[/color][/b] [b][color=red]Bridge City [/color] [/b] @ Beaumont Kelly Hamshire Fannett @ [b][color=blue]Buna[/color][/b] Hardin Jefferson @ [b][color=black]Anahuac[/color][/b] Orangefield @ [b][color=black]Woodville[/color][/b] Corrigan Camden @ [b][color=purple]Newton[/color][/b] Deweyville @ [b][color=orange]Warren[/color][/b] Trinity @ [b][color=blue]Evadale[/color][/b] West Hardin @ [b][color=navy]Hardin[/color][/b]

"D-O-G-G-I-E-S Come on doggies do your best?" Come on folks, there is something wrong with that! I mean really, how does that pump you up?  ;D "I-N-D-I-A-N-S Scalp 'Em Indians, Scalp 'Em!" Now that'll getcha' goin! I will say this and it is not me being a Homer, but if you have ever been to a PNG Pep Rally and heard the intro that the band plays as they fill the seats, it is spine tingling. Starts out slow and builds up. Saw a video to it last year. If someone has a link, please post it.

[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="841677" timestamp="1283917357"] I say they all matter...  You play to win! [/quote] Thank You Herman Edwards "YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!" ;D

[quote name="dayton" post="830984" timestamp="1282794150"] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=70240.msg830950#msg830950 date=1282791131] I think Merka's signed with TCU (may only be verbal) [/quote] can't actually sign until february [/quote] So how do these kids that graduate in December then enroll in the Spring to get a jump start get around the signing issue?  I thought you could sign as a Junior in February?? Or is there a fall signing period for kids that will graduate early?

[quote name="GCMPats" post="841132" timestamp="1283874691"] [quote author=badndn link=topic=72534.msg841130#msg841130 date=1283874603] [quote author=BH6886 link=topic=72534.msg839671#msg839671 date=1283665601] wow ... was wondering when this was gonna pop up ...  ::) well i have to go with BH ... they win this 1 by 2 touchdowns ... !!! ... my reason ... ???  ??? ... cause BH will THROW the ball more ... !!! (I hope) ...  ;D [/quote] A BH fan complaining about not throwing the ball...PRICEless! ;D Dogs win this one. As I stated before, the Bone offenses don't work at the 4A level and up. Too many athletes to contend with each week. Especially if you get to the playoffs. [/quote] But Gage won State with this offense. ;D [/quote] Yeah, 20 years ago! ;D

[quote name="BH6886" post="839671" timestamp="1283665601"] wow ... was wondering when this was gonna pop up ...  ::) well i have to go with BH ... they win this 1 by 2 touchdowns ... !!! ... my reason ... ???  ??? ... cause BH will THROW the ball more ... !!! (I hope) ...  ;D [/quote] A BH fan complaining about not throwing the ball...PRICEless! ;D Dogs win this one. As I stated before, the Bone offenses don't work at the 4A level and up. Too many athletes to contend with each week. Especially if you get to the playoffs.

How is anyone supposed to know what you are talking about with no School name?

Don't forget, the Cowboys have spent a lot of time and energy in SETX over the last 20 years recruiting and have gotten some of their top talent. So to think that McNeese would play a "Vanilla Offense" against Lamar and not try to beat the tar outta the Cards is ludacris. ::)