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Nice post Lazeek!  Thats what the Tigers must have been doing to: looking forward to friday!!!! :D :D :D :D

[quote name="stevenash" post="950529" timestamp="1295389724"] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=78734.msg950493#msg950493 date=1295385161] Gaines not having as many could be partly because he was out of the game more than the others. As far as DC and Prentice I would like to think they spent more time on the bench resting(due to our depth) than their HJ countpart,  but I am not sure that was the case. DC has done a good job staying out of foul trouble this year but not sure how many games he completed without any. [/quote] No impact on the game, but very hard to imagine any starter from a very physical and pressing team able to go an entire game without committing a foul- correction - going an entire game without being called for a foul.  Any my perception was that the starters for Silsbee played MORE than normal.  Looked like the platoon plan was abandoned early when it was not bearing fruit. [/quote] Not sure the starters played much more than normal,  when compared to other tight games.  The platoon system, at least in most games I have seen,  is used mostly in the first quarter unless its a blowout.  Then normal rotation.  You are correct, in that it is hard to go a game in our system without a foul.  DC was helped in that he mostly played defense outside, on Bosha a lot, instead of under the basket stopping drives and attempting to block shots. 

WOS played very well.  I wasn't sure about them earlier in the season,  now they are a very strong bet for that third playoff spot.  The Tigers  have not shot the ball well the last two games,  granted some of that is credited to both HJ and WOS but even open shots and inside shots haven't been falling. DC got frustrated tonight and it showed.  His third foul was a little questionable,  not necessarily a bad call,  but he lost his cool a little and drew the T.  The bench played very well tonight,  they earned this win.  DC has to not let the refs and other parts of the game not effect him so much.  Play his game and let the rest fall where it may.  We need to find a way to et the ball to him inside more.  Teams are sagging on him and making it hard,  we just need to work harder and start the offense through him.  It will make it easier for everyone.  I hope Prentice isn't out for too long, even with our depth missing one of your top 2 players is tough.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="950836" timestamp="1295408744"] Prentaice Lane out for Silsbee with a leg injury for most of the game. T [/quote] Most of second half...

24-19 tigers at half

Gaines not having as many could be partly because he was out of the game more than the others. As far as DC and Prentice I would like to think they spent more time on the bench resting(due to our depth) than their HJ countpart,  but I am not sure that was the case. DC has done a good job staying out of foul trouble this year but not sure how many games he completed without any.

[quote name="SHSTIGER" post="949649" timestamp="1295246760"] I thought we had only played them once, at the Fred Williams Classic. [/quote] Played them in the playoff warm up too, I believe.  Unfotunately I was working for both of them.

Tues. West Brook @ [b]North Shore[/b] Livingston @[b] LCM[/b] [b]Nederland[/b] @ Ozen [b]PNG[/b] @ Vidor Orangefield @ [b]Hardin-Jefferson[/b] WOS @ [b]Silsbee[/b] Buna @ [b]Hardin[/b] [b]East Chambers[/b] @ Anahuac [b]Big Sandy[/b] @ Hull-Daisetta [b]Burkeville [/b] @ Goodrich Fri [b]PAM [/b] @ West Brook Barbers Hill @ [b]Crosby[/b] [b]Central[/b] @ PNG [b]Vidor[/b] @ Livingston LCM @ [b]Nederland[/b] [b]Hardin-Jefferson[/b] @ WOS [b]Silsbee[/b] @ Hamshire-Fannett Bridge City @ [b]Orangefield[/b] Hull-Daisetta @ [b]West Hardin[/b] Goodrich @ [b]Spurger[/b]

I have said it elsewhere the top 5 or 6 players on these teams are pretty equal,  the difference is the difference is the Tigers have more depth.  The Hawks have just as good a chance at winning as do the Tigers when those top players stay in the game and stay fairly fresh.

[quote name="SHSTIGER" post="949614" timestamp="1295239156"] Pretty sure Kountze beat Silsbee last year. [/quote] Unfortunately yes the Tigers lost to the Lions twice last year.

That's the only way HJ can have the last one!!!!

Poppa, I guess I will give you a vuictory in the last meeting between the us as long as it is district or a district tiebreaker.

The girls loved it I am sure, but it sure made for a long evening. If our girls would have kept it interesting it would have made it go by faster.

By the way not being able to wait for round 2 wasn't meant to take away from any other game. I just love seeing the atmosphere of this matchup.

Definately. They seem to have come together well. Early on it looked like they would have to fight for a playoff spot. It looks like they are the definite favorites for one now.

Can't wait for round two!

AAW soyunds like we agree on the difference between these two. Would like to know the rebounding by halves if anyone knows it.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="949179" timestamp="1295155216"] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=78734.msg949160#msg949160 date=1295151313] Basketball is so unpredictable you cant narrow it down to 3 things.   And I dont even know what your calling the pot calling the kettle black is, I have no allegience to either team.  Just like to hear the scores. I just want for (some, not all) to congratulate Silsbee on the win and dont come back later claiming it was this or that.  Great game to both teams.  Dont let the adults ruin it for the kids.   [/quote] Who are you to ask for "some people" to congratulate Silsbee????  Were you are the game???  NO, so make no comment about it and ask for people to congratulate Silsbee!!! If that is the way it should be then some of the Silsbee people should eat a little crow for saying that HJ could not hang with the Tigers.  HJ proved that they are just as good and talented as the Tigers.  With a break here and there all of the Tigers would be eating crow and they would be the ones making excuses!!!!  But the Tigers executed and got the W, but I can assure you the coaches, players and fans of Silsbee were on edge and worried about losing to the Hawks up until about half way thru the 4th!!!  And yet not one person has given HJ credit for keeping the Tigers off of their game for 3 quarters, their excuse is that the Tigers were rusty..........HJ has only played one more game than the Tigers since going back to school and only one more game than the Tigers since the Christmas break, so no rust!!!!  Just being beat for 3 quarters!!!! [/quote] I am not saying the Tigers were rusty.  Sure I was concerned about it  before the game.  Heck I am not going to try and guess wether each pass was a result of pressure or not being sharp. I don't think we played that poorly during any part of the game.  I think Sean having to sit down for a large part of the last quarter was huge. Not getting to be as aggressive on defense played a part as well but that also played a part into getting those 4 fouls.  That could flip in the next game and we could be in that position,  hopefully that will be when our depth shines the most.  

One thing you have to realize about this rivalty, that is typical of most rivalries.  Unless one team has a very down year,  you can never count out either team.  I was one that thought last years Tigers had a definite advantage over the Hawks.  Last years team had a big height advantage and skill to go with it. It  had size that most  3A teams would die for. Yet the Hawks still got a win over the Tigers. This years team has depth that most teams would  love and  speed most would envy as well. Do I think the Hawks don't have a chance of beating the Tigers? Heck no.  I didn't feel like that before last night and for three quarters they proved they could win.  However winning games like this one against a quality team with less depth than you is very often done this way.  The game stays in doubt until late when the team with less depth starts to get tired.  I was told by a Dallas Madison fan last year that even though my Tigers made a heck of a comeback run late, the difference at the end was our stars were wore out while theirs were fresher. As far as all these what ifs,  yes foul trouble limited some Hawks late, but you are still guessing as to how different it would been.  I could say if the Tigers had played more than one game in the last two weeks we would have been sharper in the first three quarters,  not letting the Hawks pressure get to us quite so much.  However,  I would still be guessing as well.  I am a Tiger fan through and through and I want the Tigers to go undefeated the rest of the way.  These players deserve it.  However,  after watching  these two teams go at it for the last several years and getting familiar with the Hawks players and some fans ,  as bad as I want the Tigers to beat them,  I still hate to see any of these kids lose.  There isn't one of them that don't step out there and give everything they have and then some.  I wish I could have been a part of a rivalry of this quality.  It is an honor to be able to watch it each year.

No doubt it would affect DC's game as it did those. 

Definitely makes a difference.

That does make a difference. I thought Seans was early in the 4th. I was so into the game I don't even remember Gus fouling out. Don't know how I missed that.

Which Hawks went into the fourth with 4 fouls. I don't remember 3. I thought Sean got his 4th early in the 4th which was big don't remember the others.

I never said we would have won by more just said he would have mada a difference. Don't you feel that even though his assistants could do well if Sutherland missed the game it would have an effect?

As good as all these coaches are I don't see how you can say not having Travis didn't have an effect. Yes it wouldn't have changed the way we played but it would have given a thirdbset of eyes on the bench, and more ideas strategy wise.          Would it have made much difference in the outcome is guess work but he definitely would have made a difference. He wasn't given the job for no reason!