The Old Ball Coach

Wrong about education, West Brook is miles above the others in staar scores, and SAT scores. Trust me the Staar scores comparison between the schools is to embarrassing to even post. 

Good job Smitty. Another great call by you. Tell you what you and your insider can keep second guessing coach crouch. S.I.E Smitty


[quote name="smitty" post="1277490" timestamp="1348242654"]
Still waiting!!    ???

[quote author=The Old Ball Coach link=topic=103236.msg1276847#msg1276847 date=1348166924]
Smitty your an idiot.

[quote author=smitty link=topic=103236.msg1276348#msg1276348 date=1348104309]
I have a lot of "inside" info on LCM football program.  It's not pretty.  It's a shame, though.  But they misuse good athletes.

[quote author=LB76 link=topic=103236.msg1276183#msg1276183 date=1348086518]
Give us a little hint, Smitty, name, initials, year, anything....You've got our curiosity up and the wheels are turning.
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Smitty your an idiot.

[quote name="smitty" post="1276348" timestamp="1348104309"]
I have a lot of "inside" info on LCM football program.  It's not pretty.  It's a shame, though.  But they misuse good athletes.

[quote author=LB76 link=topic=103236.msg1276183#msg1276183 date=1348086518]
Give us a little hint, Smitty, name, initials, year, anything....You've got our curiosity up and the wheels are turning.
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[quote name="randy77705" post="1269557" timestamp="1347579636"]
H-F Freshman 42
Westbrook 5A school 0
Without King and Malone
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Yes they are 5a but that was one of two teams, the other teamed played their schedule game against Houston Lamar.  Lamar did not have a second team

Yall really think WOS could hang with the 5a schools. HA! What was the score last year with Orangefield? what was the score last year with Hampshire Fannet? And you think you could hang with PAM or West brook.  this is funnny

I wonder Why not? 

LCM boys won first

[quote name="oldsarge777" post="1180578" timestamp="1329575454"]
With respect to the candidates, has anyone on here compared the number of playoff games each has taken his team to in the last 3 years as compared to Faircloth?  5 years as compared to Stump?  What about offensive statistics last season as compared to these two highly respected coaches?  Points per game?  Just curious what the numbers show?
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Crosby Beat the Faircloth coached Indians this year, and Nederland in the first round the past two seasons all coached by Flan.

how did the JV do

Did he play on the 7on7 team, and if so didnt they make it to the state tournament. He would have been an ineligible player then.

Well with that talent they should not loose a game untill maybe the state championships, no excuses at all.

[quote name="downgoesfrazier" post="959754" timestamp="1296665607"]
[quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=79572.msg959515#msg959515 date=1296624285]
DE Brandon Alexander- Texas A&M
WR Derek Edwards- Texas Tech
OT Jon Poehlman- Rice
CB Rodney Hubert- SMU
OLB Desmon Mathis- UTSA
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I can't believe you guys got knocked out in the first round with that talent.  Include your 2012 guys like Brown, Cole, Green, and Ballard, that are all D1 guys and you've got to wonder how you lose any games.
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I know Im wondering if even Lake Travis has that many Guys signing at that high of a level.
It really makes you wonder if it is truelly all about the Larry and Joes there....... and not the X's and O's...... ;).

[quote name="STiger85" post="932802" timestamp="1292302767"]
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[quote author=playdefense link=topic=77380.msg932377#msg932377 date=1292256570]
Someone needs to explain to me why Hank Jones from East Chambers is not on this team.  Wow - Are you kidding me.  I realize only so many can make it, but that is an absolute injustice.

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Because the 20-4a District MVP and Offensive MVP is the second team QB's, and the 21-3a Offensive MVP QB is the second team utility player. He is a little behind all three of these players

Here is your answer
 

[b]Reyes[/b]-2174 yards passing 19 touchdowns,,, 453 yards rushing 7 td's *includes playoffs

[b]Gonzales[/b]-2381 yards passing 21 td's,,,,597 yards rushing 11 td's

[b]Doty[/b]- 2830 yards passing 29 td's * includes playoffs
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b]Menard[/b]- 1390 passing 15 td's,,,,,,1006 rushing 17 td's * includes playoffs

[b]Jones[/b]- 1431 yards passing 13 td's,,,,,842 yards rushing 12 td's * includes playoffs

Great Kid, and he had a great year, but so did other QB's. He is behind in the Stats.
But trust me I'm sure he will not let this stop him from having a great future
[/quote]I think Reyes had a really good year this year but to have put him above Doty and Gonzales i didnt understand. [b]These 2 were by far the best 2 QB in the area.[/b] And if Lamar is looking for a Qb these 2 young men would have been a great place to start. Add FORD and some lineman to the already exisiting players u had on the Off and Lamar would be a force to be reconded with for years to come.
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You need to look at Silsbee's QB stats. You would take that comment back.
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[b]Gonzales[/b]-2381 yards passing 21 td's [b]6 INT[/b],,,,597 yards rushing 11 td's [b]32 total Td's[/b]

[b]Doty[/b]- 2830 yards passing 29 td's [b]12 INT[/b] * includes playoffs [b]Also had 3 rushing TD's[/b]
[b]32 total td's[/b]

[b]McDaniel[/b]-2502 yards passing 25 touchdowns [b]12 INT[/b],,,,,566 yards rushing 4 touchdowns * includes playoffs [b]29 total td's[/b]
Doty and Gonzales still have the edge

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If its pure stats then why isn't this one on here:

Myles Taylor -Hardin (TX) 3313 yard passing 38 touchdowns 759 rushing 4072 Total yards not including the playoffs  #11 in the state in overall passing yards #7 in Total Offensive yards...

Struggled in the Win department but still had the stats.
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My fault I forgot to add that everyone of those players also led there team to a 7 win or better season, but you are right about Taylor.  Smaller schools do get over looked at times especially if they are not winning.

[quote name="playdefense" post="932377" timestamp="1292256570"]
Someone needs to explain to me why Hank Jones from East Chambers is not on this team.  Wow - Are you kidding me.  I realize only so many can make it, but that is an absolute injustice.

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Because the 20-4a District MVP and Offensive MVP is the second team QB's, and the 21-3a Offensive MVP QB is the second team utility player. He is a little behind all three of these players

Here is your answer


[b]Reyes[/b]-2174 yards passing 19 touchdowns,,, 453 yards rushing 7 td's *includes playoffs

[b]Gonzales[/b]-2381 yards passing 21 td's,,,,597 yards rushing 11 td's

[b]Doty[/b]- 2830 yards passing 29 td's * includes playoffs
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b]Menard[/b]- 1390 passing 15 td's,,,,,,1006 rushing 17 td's * includes playoffs

[b]Jones[/b]- 1431 yards passing 13 td's,,,,,842 yards rushing 12 td's * includes playoffs

Great Kid, and he had a great year, but so did other QB's. He is behind in the Stats.
But trust me I'm sure he will not let this stop him from having a great future

But I dont think you can put Sonnier at MVP because his total stats is no where near Gonzales

Gonzales
over 3020 total yards and 32 touchdowns

Sonnier

After adding in his passing over 700 total yards and 18 touchdowns

How many yards did sonnier have rushing, and also how many rushing Touchdowns did he have. He motioned into the backfield a lot from the wr spot. He also was the "Wild DOG" guy.  Even though he is lined up at QB he is a listed wr. He had 438 yards rushing with 15 touchdowns if you add that to his Receiving you get 626 yards and 16 touchdowns.  That is with missing the Vidor game.  In my opinion if I was coaching against the two players I would be more worried about Sonnier wherever he lined up.

In district only
Nelson-545 yards 5 touchdowns

Sonnier-626 total yards 16 touchdowns

Great team

[quote name="PURPLE 4EVER" post="893600" timestamp="1288624612"]
I believe, if Livingston makes the playoffs, PN-G will be the #2 seed (assuming Central beats PN-G).  If PN-G wins, they will be the #1 seed.  Thinking about it, there is a lot on the line for PN-G.  If they go into the playoff bracket as the #1 seed, that side of the bracket is pretty soft.  The winner of the 19-4A and 20-4A might just have two more pretty easy playoff games.  
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[b]The only way PNG plays Dayton is If [/b]
1. PNG loses,LCM wins, and vidor beats Livingston.  Then it looks like this

1.Central 7-0 Big school 1 seed
2. LCM 5-2 Small school 1 seed
3.PNG 4-3 Small school 2 seed
4.Vidor 3-4 Big School 2 seed ( Vidor is in with wins over Ned in Liv.)
4.Ned 3-4 out for loss to vidor early in season
4. LIV 3-4 out with loss to vidor

[b]OR>>>>[/b]
Livingston wins, Ned Wins, and PNG Loses
1. Central 7-0 Big school 1
2.Liv-4-3 Small school 1
2.PNG- 4-3 Small school 2 because of loss to Liv
2.Ned 4-3 Big school 2
2.LCM 4-3 out with 1-2 record vs tie breaker teams just like PNG, but lost head up to them

It's gonna be a fun ending

a coin flip comes into play when the pts. differental is tied or if the teams didn't play.

Coin flips are also used in playoffs when the 2 head coaches can't agree on a neutral site for a playoff game.

he went to North Mesquite

[quote name="Justafan1" post="789646" timestamp="1271179840"]
Old Ball Coach I agree with you 100% I had a long talk with my son when he got home that evening about commitment and what it means and what his goals in life are. I asked him if walking off the field would help him achieve these goals and he told me no and that is why he went back into the dug out. I told him his job is to play baseball and do what the coach tells him and that anyone can  find an excuse to complain about life being unfair. He was not allowed to play the rest of the game. A decision I agree with. I spoke with the coach after the game and told him if wanted to remove my son from the team I would support his decision. The players need to play ball as instructed by thier coach. Period end of story.
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I'm glad there are parents like you still in the world. 

a player(OR A CHILD) never has the right to make a decision for the coach ( a grown man with an education).  If they truely did this then I hope they are banned from all sports for the rest of their career.  Because if not, they will do this again in the future, like someone said earlier maybe on their first job.  There must be a lesson learned, those kids are not going to play college ball anywhere, so they are in athletics because it is fun, [b]but most importantly to learn life long lessons.[/b]  [b]If the players are in control no lesson will ever be learned, and they will always think they should get what they want. Which as we all know is not how the world works[/b]

told you critter no split this year between the two.  WOS didnt get to see bats like that in preseason, maybe next year

man your predictions have been a little off lately havent they ::)