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I'm just saying from what I saw against L-E. Lots of short throws with tons of open space. L-E secondary seemed to play 5 yards off of the receivers almost every play.

This wasn't really an upset. Carthage is a powerhouse, with arguably the best coach in Texas high school football today. I don't even think you will hear a Gilmer fan say that this was an upset. That being said, I was questioning Poppy before this game started. I watched the first game this season, which I'm sure you all heard, he broke the Gilmer passing record in a game and what not. The reason I questioned that, is because I had seen L-E twice (now 3 times) this season, and their secondary is just not what is has been in past years. I also have been trying to find the statistic, but I don't think it's out there, on the YAC during the Gilmer/L-E game. Watching the game, I am figuring over half of the passing yards was due to YAC. He doesn't take many deep shots, it's mainly just the usual Gilmer screens and short throws.

I have 2 problems with this statement. 1. Who do you think teaches them discipline on the field? 2. Do you really think coaching has nothing to do with how the team plays? Coaching is more important even than the talent is.

That's an understatement.

They may not post so much on the Carthage thread. I mean, even I have to say that I don't know of anyone that definitively has a better coach that Carthage in the state of Texas. He's made his team do the unthinkable, more than once, even when over-matched with talent. But to add to that, you did say 4ADII, and Carthage is DI.

Lol in case you have noticed, we don't like ANYONE saying something along the lines of "nobody can compete with (insert team name here)." Just ask the Gilmer faithful. Or really, start a post just like the one you started, just insert Gilmer's name where you had WOS's and see what happens lol.

Lol I'm having a real hard time telling Chukslegacy and WOS36 apart. I'm not convinced they're not the same person.

I mean we could mention those, but then we'd have to point out that Newton is 3AD2, then we'd have to point out that the 1 win Silsbee has it against a Jasper team that I wouldn't exactly call an impressive 4AD2 team. That being said, good luck to you guys! You're going to need it!

In one of the most dominant performances in Texas state championship history I may add . We're getting back into winning shape, and have a pretty good team this year. Just gotta find our stride.

Yea well you have to worry about.... what other good teams are in south Texas again?

That's what the Leopards thought too.

I like Rabbits

I got Wharton. Just something telling me after that week 1 loss to Sealy, they finally got it back on track. That was a close loss to a very good El Campo team I may add.

I'm just talking about the thread in general lol.

Navasota is without their head coach. If anyone doubted that Fedora had that program on the map, they don't now.

So it begins on SETX too. Chuk is this your other name?

Thank you sir. We will see how it pans out. Hopefully they get everything ironed out and ready for district.

Oh I am sure that we're not ready to face Gilmer right now. You didn't say that Gilmer was good enough to win their district, you said they would win their district. After a 13 year drought to Gilmer, including losing in the Qtr. Finals to them 2 straight years, no opponent can possibly know what Gilmer is capable of more than I. I have also watched Gilmer this season, and I am aware of what their passing game looks like, which is not far from the way it looks every year, consisting of a heavy dose of screens. With that being said, Atlanta does need to improve. The Henderson was a very bad showing on several levels, mainly in special teams and offensive line. Do they have the talent to hang with Gilmer? Yes, most definitely. I have to trust that the coaches can get this team in the shape they need to be in, as they did last year when we entered the playoffs with a (6-4) record. So I wouldn't give Gilmer the trophy just yet. They may very well win it, but I won't sell my Rabbits out over the blowing the first game of pre-district. I think they are well equipped with enough talent to take on whomever they meet.

WO-S by a lot. But I do think Silsbee will score.

Looks like it to me.

Mighty tall claims to only be 3 games deep in a season with only 1 slightly impressive win against a team that's been exposed more than once for having a weak passing defense. We will see how this plays out.

I'm taking Carthage in this game. I haven't seen Carthage this year, but I have seen Gilmer once. I just think that Carthage's style of football and their defense will be the decider in this game. We will see!