Yeoj

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1365040" timestamp="1358572029"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108357.msg1365017#msg1365017 date=1358570067] Went to this game and the refs were horrible! Central played 5 against 8 all night. [/quote]seriously? ??? The foul count was about even for the game. Oops, actually Ned had 3 more fouls than Central including a player with 2 clean blocks who fouled out. ::) The refs were consistent, what more do you want? Central was clearly the better team tonight, learn to WIN with class. ::) [/quote] Really class? How about teaching number 1 to play with and have some class about himself. Oh and it was real classy going get the police to make black people give up their seats for no apparent reason. The game was only as close as it was because of the officiating. Central is the better team period, not just tonight!

[quote name="BIG SHOW" post="1365015" timestamp="1358569781"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1364874#msg1364874 date=1358555622] Ned Fresh up 57-18 after 3 Qs. They won by 20 or so. Don't remember score. 5 on 5 may know. [/quote] 67-47 was the final in the freshman game. Ned was up by nearly 40 at one point. The second group played in the fourth quarter. [/quote] I wouldn't get too excited! Central has two freshmen on varsity and at least three other freshmen on JV.

Went to this game and the refs were horrible! Central played 5 against 8 all night.

The JV team myth: Central started two freshman that game that were new to not only varsity basketball but, high school basketball. The other three staters had one year of high school basketball experience. Fielding a JV team or not, it's arguable that your Silsbee Tigers were the more experienced team.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1364441" timestamp="1358447712"] That is not bias, that is fact based on the personnel of each team. Central still has the same team they started the season with, Silsbee does not. Is Central playing better basketball than they were early in the season? YES!! But Silsbee was basically fielding a JV team those first 3 weeks of the season and now have their full compliment of a varsity team (4 varsity players before, 14 now). Three of Silsbee's top 5 scorers (1. Elam, 2. Holmes, 4. Reed) were still playing football and 4 of the first 5 off the bench(Jackson, Barnes, Brydson, Scott) were still in football those first 3 weeks. Personnel wise, Silsbee is no where near the team they were those first 3 weeks than what they are now. You cannot make that claim with Central. Silsbee has grown much more as a team than Central. That is a fact, not opinion. [/quote] Nope it's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But, there are some who believe the Jags have grown more as a team and it's their opinion.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1364408" timestamp="1358442534"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108282.msg1364393#msg1364393 date=1358440908] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=108282.msg1364381#msg1364381 date=1358439093] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108282.msg1364364#msg1364364 date=1358436717] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=108282.msg1364353#msg1364353 date=1358435496] Why does HJ choose not to play a harder schedule? They play some local 4A and a ton of 2A schools. No school they have played so far this year besides Central and Longview could stay in the gym with Silsbee. Not even Kountze! [/quote] You are aware that Kountze have already beaten Silsbee by 20 already, right? [/quote] and we all know that was 3/4 Silsbee JV team at that time. Only 4 (just 2 starters) of the current 14 varsity players were playing at that time. But, that team was good enough to beat Central the week before. ;) [/quote]...and good enough to loose to a Baytown Lee team AFTER receiving the football boys back? 8) [/quote] Soulja, your basketball credibility is lacking if you are saying that Silsbee is the same team now as they were the first 3 weeks of the season. The Baytown Lee loss was a bad loss for Silsbee even tough it was the first game with the football players with 1 practice under their belts and on the road. A couple of those football players did not even suit out for that game. Do I think Silsbee beats Kountze now? Yes. Do I think Silsbee beats Central now? I don't know but I like their chances. [b]I can assure you that based on what I have seen from watching Silsbee and Central early part of the season till now, Silsbee has improved much more as a team than what Central has done thus far.[/b] Does that equate in a Silsbee win over Central right now? No it doesn't. But then again, Central had no business losing to a Silsbee JV team neither. ;) [/quote] Since the Silsbee/Central game the Jags have lost three games, the Tigers have lost seven. Two of which to a good Nederland squad that Central has beaten once. You're making at bias statement as a fan of the Tigers but, the proof is in the pudding. Central has grown more as a team!

Having seen both, I have to say that Jordan Hunter has more facets to his game and is the better player at this stage.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1357331" timestamp="1356046226"] Silsbee has the best individual talent of anyone. When they get it to mesh together, it will be scary! [/quote] Ridiculous statement! Central has at least 4 legitimate DI players on their team. How many does Silsbee have?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1349536" timestamp="1354683240"] Amazing how all is quiet when Central is  winning  ;D [/quote] Its hard to argue with winning! Even if you disagree, winning is winning. :-X

[quote name="ozensfinest" post="1348140" timestamp="1354526095"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=106883.msg1348125#msg1348125 date=1354511932] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=106883.msg1348087#msg1348087 date=1354508599] [quote author=BmtTopFlight2017 link=topic=106883.msg1347754#msg1347754 date=1354483606] Noooo what's DUMB is u using winning district titles as a measuring stick for being successful as a coach..now that's hilarious....and on top of that saying he's not on Bouttes level as a head coach....maybe not but who cares...so I guess Coach Saveat is not successful because he hasn't won a district title but he's gone the furthest in the PLAYOFFS out of all the schools...u have a lot to learn my friend..told u I TALK FACTS...NOT FICTION...and u act as If Nederland,Central, which btw are the only schools who could actually compete for a district title are pushovers....hmmm my fellow SETX ppl let is Larry Brown a good coach yes...is Roy Williams a good coach yes...the only difference is their approach to the game...your a supporter of Ozen right sounds to me when they lose your the first to say I told u so...when we head to state don't bother packin your bags we don't want fair weather fans riding on the bus..... [/quote]Ok lets talk fact...the first time Ozen has ever lost to central is when Saveat took over correct? The first time ozen hasn't won the district title since its been open(maybe besides once or twice) was under Savaet correct? We can talk facts all day its proven that the program has gone down since being under savaet thats facts...and I thought thats what coaches were judged by their success [/quote] You do realize Ozen doesn't have a 6'10" NBA player on its team anymore don't you? Ozen has a good team, but they are not overloaded with talent like they use to be in the Boutte era. [/quote]You do realize they didn't have anyone 6'10 on the 07' team that went to state either huh? [/quote] No, but they had 6'7" Chris Richard who went on to play at Tulane and some professional basketball over seas.

[quote name="ozensfinest" post="1348087" timestamp="1354508599"] [quote author=BmtTopFlight2017 link=topic=106883.msg1347754#msg1347754 date=1354483606] Noooo what's DUMB is u using winning district titles as a measuring stick for being successful as a coach..now that's hilarious....and on top of that saying he's not on Bouttes level as a head coach....maybe not but who cares...so I guess Coach Saveat is not successful because he hasn't won a district title but he's gone the furthest in the PLAYOFFS out of all the schools...u have a lot to learn my friend..told u I TALK FACTS...NOT FICTION...and u act as If Nederland,Central, which btw are the only schools who could actually compete for a district title are pushovers....hmmm my fellow SETX ppl let is Larry Brown a good coach yes...is Roy Williams a good coach yes...the only difference is their approach to the game...your a supporter of Ozen right sounds to me when they lose your the first to say I told u so...when we head to state don't bother packin your bags we don't want fair weather fans riding on the bus..... [/quote]Ok lets talk fact...the first time Ozen has ever lost to central is when Saveat took over correct? The first time ozen hasn't won the district title since its been open(maybe besides once or twice) was under Savaet correct? We can talk facts all day its proven that the program has gone down since being under savaet thats facts...and I thought thats what coaches were judged by their success [/quote] You do realize Ozen doesn't have a 6'10" NBA player on its team anymore don't you? Ozen has a good team, but they are not overloaded with talent like they use to be in the Boutte era.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1336240" timestamp="1353262734"] [quote author=Silsbeealum14 link=topic=106422.msg1336212#msg1336212 date=1353261580] Amen 2 that proudmom32, that was the first time I seen ur son play and I can truly say that he's a monster in that paint !!!! Donta Wilson may be the best pg in this area. Being only bout 5"7 on a good day, the Lil man plays like he's 6"7 and can hold his on ground !!! Central can be one of the Top teams in 4A but yesterday they got out coach and out played cause not one time I seen the central coach get up and call anything... Gd luck to both teams !!! [/quote]I saw the Central coaches huddle up during a time-out and talk [/quote] I saw that also. Those fools called a timeout and had a coacheshuddle. Then sent the players back out on the floowithout any instructions. SMH

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1335216" timestamp="1353189773"] Sorry I doubted my Tigers! gREAT WIN! BlueDove, Beaumont teams get run by Silsbee like I said! [/quote] Seriously? Central will be fine once they get more games under their belt! The Jags started 3 sophs and 2 freshmen. I have a feeling they'll get another shot at the Tigers.

I think I will make this game!

Well I'm still here and will be here. Anyone that follows WB football knows that this was going to be a mediocre year at best. We will be back to handing out ass whippings in the very near future. I say give this staff a chance. And if Flannigan had the luxury of playing in a 6 team district where 4 teams make it in, he could make the playoffs every year like Stump did!  ;D

[quote name="BrookAlumni" post="1308034" timestamp="1351012279"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=104984.msg1307709#msg1307709 date=1350986466] [quote author=BrookAlumni link=topic=104984.msg1306027#msg1306027 date=1350786447] Do yall think that Clack or Padia will start this game against northshore and whats your predictions? but the defense is going to be the ones to me that are going to make or break this game. They got to get some turnovers and at least get some three and outs or something and that has not been seen alot this year. and for the qb start i say let the junior get another game started to see if he can get some things moving if not you can always put clack back in and roll with him but the Offense when facing a good team needs to score some points to help that defense out! [/quote] I would like to see the 10th grader playing JV taking snaps on varsity. He has a great arm and is a really good athlete. Plus he can't do any worse than Clack or Padia. [/quote] WOW Yeoj you must be the 10th graders friend cause if you know anything about WB and seen the JV kid play and practice you know that kid is not even close to being ready for Varsity...lol..maybe next year he can make a play for the spot but I would bet against it, Also Mouse your comment on Clack being mobile is a joke as well, clack has the least amount of yards on the ground on the team and has been sacked at least 6 times per game, where as in two games Padia has shown good running and scrambling and has 2 rushing TDs  and more rushing yards than clack, oh yea clack has 0 rushing TDs!  All said no matter who starts they lose to north shore 9 out of 10 times, but would be nice to see Flanagan get some experience for Padia since he will most likely be the guy next year! [/quote] You must be Padia or his parent. He's a hard worker but not the answer. And the 10 grader is as ready as Clack or Padia is. Its not like either one is setting the field on fire!

[quote name="BrookAlumni" post="1306027" timestamp="1350786447"] Do yall think that Clack or Padia will start this game against northshore and whats your predictions? but the defense is going to be the ones to me that are going to make or break this game. They got to get some turnovers and at least get some three and outs or something and that has not been seen alot this year. and for the qb start i say let the junior get another game started to see if he can get some things moving if not you can always put clack back in and roll with him but the Offense when facing a good team needs to score some points to help that defense out! [/quote] I would like to see the 10th grader playing JV taking snaps on varsity. He has a great arm and is a really good athlete. Plus he can't do any worse than Clack or Padia.

The best QB in the area is Robert Mitchell! He just happens to play on the worse coached team in the state. This kid will make some serious noise for whatever college gets him.

[quote name="D3zii" post="1287660" timestamp="1349069853"] This brings me baq to my point, How do we let a coach that goes 4 rounds, (Stowers) get away the next year.. [/quote] Let get away? Didn't Stowers apply for a job in the DFW metroplex every summer of every year he coached at Central? Wasn't he from the DFW area? Sounds like he wanted to go home and he took the first opportunity that presented itself.

Get real! WOS is good! And they are the best in their district. But, not best in the area. It took turnovers and bad coaching for them to get 14 on a team that Ozen could have very easily dropped 70 on! PAM and WB would beat them. Nederland, Ozen, and Vidor would beat them. So the answer is a resounding NO!

[quote name="baddog" post="1287318" timestamp="1349036920"] Yep, forget what Stump did for WB after the underachieving Rabb years. He moves to Atascosita and has them on the upswing, but let him lose a game to Westfield, and the bashing begins. SFA85 must be a wannabe coach. All he does is bash other coaches. Wow, what a guy. Never coached a down in his life. [/quote] First of all yes Rabb did suck! But, WB had alot of talent there at the end of Rabb's reign. Evident by all the close loses. Uninformed people keep saying "what Stump did for West Brook". Stump was losing at Kelly before he got the WB job. He wasn't this offensive guru, there. His program was taking it on the chin. The talent at WB hid his average coaching ability. Research the DI talent WB sent to college in Stump's tenure as head coach. And with all that talent WB won one district championship and never made it pass the third round of the playoffs. Now that's the definition of underachieving!

[quote name="wbfan" post="1286975" timestamp="1348976765"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=103793.msg1286584#msg1286584 date=1348954235] Any team with equal or better talent beats Stump! No wins against westfield! Katy beat him like drum every time he played them. One win against North Shore! No wins against Humble! Dude leaves a legacy of underachieving teams. One season he has the top back in the state and doesn't make it out of the second round, go figure... Smh [/quote] Out of curiosity, were you ever a coach for WB? [/quote] Nope! Just a loyal fan to the program  that calls it how I see. I'm a WB graduate and lifetime Bruin. Now out of my curiosity which statement, made by me, is inaccurate?

What's with all this love making between the pirates and panthers? I had to check and make sure I was on the right site. Where's the smack talk? This is high school football people! Vidor by 75 or Ozen by 200... Come on!!! What's the world comig to? First Destiny's Child breaks up and now this! A brother doesn't have anything to believe in...  :o

0-4 Central vs 0-4 Lumberton Somebody's 0 must go!!!! I just hope Central plays with 11 guys on defense all game long!!! I expect Mitchell to run wild and throw a couple TDs. Central by 9.

[quote name="82 5A State Champs" post="1283969" timestamp="1348836917"] Westfield has always had Stump's number. I believe he is 0-4 against the Mustangs. [/quote] Any team with equal or better talent beats Stump! No wins against westfield! Katy beat him like drum every time he played them. One win against North Shore! No wins against Humble! Dude leaves a legacy of underachieving teams. One season he has the top back in the state and doesn't make it out of the second round, go figure... Smh