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1 hour ago, Cougar14.2 said:

Baytown Lee opted up with 1,802 last realignment and finished 2nd in 9-5A-D1 which is the local 5A-D1 district for SETX. They should’ve been in 12-5A-D2 which is the other local 5A district for SETX but were made to play with the two other Goose Creek CISD schools which were D1 and actually ended up being the better for it. Usually your opt-ups are in multi-school districts and I can’t think of any other ones around here? 

No one would be too interested in "rumblings" from Robert E Lee. Out of pure speculation, and the fact that the 5A D1 district has weaker talent/teams than the D2 district,  it wouldnt surprise me if Asbeck and the Hill decided to opt up. 

53 minutes ago, Bandwagon Ranger said:

I feel pretty confident that your assessment is inaccurate. 

It was in jest, hence the comment in parenthesis

2 hours ago, GCMNation5 said:

This been the best kept secret list since the Crosby job lol

As it should be

8 hours ago, GCMNation5 said:

I have to disagree with the not be able to make decent playoff runs in 5-A where we are. GCM has HAD and always has talent but it just walks away to another school for varius reasons.  The past 2 years Crosby has had 3-4 athletes that played big roles in some of their success. We lost 2 this past season back to Hull, 1 to Humble, 1 to West Brook, 2 to BCA have lost a few to Channelview and have lost another to Crosby and North Shore.  

This past season with the 3 that were at Crosby and the 2 at Hull oh and 1 at West Brook and 1 at Humble and 2 at BCA we make playoffs. 

So count that as 7-9 starters we should have had added to what we had left. Oh and count 8-15 kids walking the halls that all played at one point that could compete for a starting job and add depth as well.  GCM has been killed with the transfer bug and its been a problem.

I won’t dispute what ur saying Bc I’m pretty sure it’s accurate information. My response however, is how can you disagree with me, given the fact there’s never been playoff run in school history. Early in the program history  they strung a few seasons together, and won multiple district games and got to the playoffs, the last being in 2013, and have had 4 play off games in school history without a playoff win. 11 varsity football seasons, zero playoff wins. Sterling has been to the playoffs 1 time since 1986, when they got beat by WOS in the dome, in 1972, their 4th year of Football, they played Odessa Permian for the state championship and got beat. Not too many people know that. Then 10 yrs later in 82’ they lost to the Jerry Ball bruins form WB, but after losing on penetrations to wOS in 86, their run was done, and for 35 years it hasn’t changed. and lee had a good run under Olin in the late 90s early 2000s, but haven’t sniffed the postseason since. So going strictly by program history, with the exception of a couple good seasons here and there(years ago) combined by all the public schools in Baytown. There’s NOTHING that suggests, any kind of sustainability for a constant winner in football, for any of the 3. 

Im not being a pessimist or bad mouthing any coaches or players, I have nothing bad to say about their effort or dedication, it’s the demographics, strictly a numbers issue, and it always will be with 3 schools in a city the size of Baytown. Had we gone to 1 school, and the Baytown Memorial Oilers, Mosquitoes, Gangeriots(whatever the mascot would have been) taken the field, it would have been exciting, to be able to have the entire community getting behind the kids, and seeing Stallworth with 7500-10000 people at home games Bc the team is in the hunt every year, but instead our kids play in front of empty stadiums, unless on the road, Bc 3-7, 1-9, those kind of records don’t beg for exitemnt that you need to put butts in the seats. Just dealin in facts, but Cinderella is always looking for a date, and I’m counting on her to give our boys a chance for the next 4 years. As long as ur prepared to go without a date to the dance, the let down doesn’t sting near as bad, as holdin on to false hopes, that we have to convince ourselves are actually feasible. 

6 hours ago, RidinTheRange said:

It will all come down to who the Principal of the school wants.  She makes all the hires for that campus.

Their OC would be a good internal candidate, and Lee has a really good OC.  I'm sure this job will draw some outside interest as well.  

I think the only way a Baytown school will win is if they get someone from in Baytown that can get ALL of Baytown excited, and get kids filtering that way.  

The filtering idea is not even an option, first off as soon as an Influx of kids left one to go to the other there would nine kinds of Hell raised, granted there are a few right now that have transferred for one reason or another over the years, but the kind of migration it would take for one of the 3 schools to become a playoff mainstay, is stuff of fairy tales, just won’t happen. 

With the the 3 school model in effect for the foreseeable future, you could feasibly single out  one sport per school, to focus on. I.e. totally hypothetical here, but have GCM the “baseball” school”, REL the “basketball school” and RSS the “football school”. Baytown isn’t a huge metropolis that is too far to drive for any kid in the district. All the schools are within a 10mile radius. And with each high school having its own Academy that specialize in their own unique curriculum, and gccisd allowing students to attend one of the other 2 schools if the academy They Want is at that school. You could maybe pull it off that way, but it’s still a tall task. 

The short answer to this conundrum, is expectations need to be tempered in the football department, Bc when the one school option was shot down, so were the chances of ever making a deep run in the playoffs in Football.(Cinderella seasons not taken into consideration for this analysis)

2009 7-4 lost to Central @ the Babe 7-0 (last playoff appearance)

2012 6-4 (last winning season)

throw in 0-10, 1-8, 4-6, 4-6, 4-6, 5-5, 4-6, and it’s a little more than a few seasons over the last decade, 2 winning seasons, in a decade screams for a different way of doing things. 

On 11/10/2018 at 10:55 PM, Bandwagon Ranger said:

Disagree completely. A team can impose their will to start a game. At some point, they should know that it is in their best interest to run the damn ball, play the back ups, and just get out of there. 

It's all about winning with class. Coach Kay at North Shore does it right.  He could have put 100 on the board the past 2 seasons against GCM,  but did not. Beating GCM by 100 is NOT his ultimate goal. He has bigger asperations. 

If you can line up and run the ball and score 63...more Power to ya. To run a hurry up offense and continue to throw the ball up 49 points is classless. Always will be. 

Already done with this season. Ready for next year. 

 

 

And that’s fine everybody has their own opinion we can agree to disagree. But to me it’s pretty cut and dry, when they moved on from Boyd, which was necessary and time for, they hired someone from his staff and kept all of the same coaches. The reason for letting him go/him resigning, was because the performance and record had fallen off it was time for a change. But change does not come unless everything is changed including the coaching staff. If you have a program where they’re losing and have that instilled in them Bc that’s all they’ve known, Then what makes anything change if the recipe stays the same.  When you change head coaches the entire regime needs to go In order for total change to happen and a new philosophy combined with a new culture is required. By not doing this you set the program back by 4 years. Take Lee for example, they cleaned house brought in Finn and he’s turning that program around. They have fewer numbers than GCM and although they can’t stop a lot of people from scoring, they routinely score 40+ a game and remain competitive if not entertaining throughout. GCM has struggled to put quality units on the field for 4yrs under current regime. It’s not the coaches fault Bc they were set up for failure, the program needs a shot in the arm, to bring out more kids to the program and an overall make over to attract more talent. The kids put in a lot of work and should be commended, but another area of concern is the coaching at the junior high level. 99% of our kids at a certain jr high, can’t tell you what a 3 technique or lining up in a 7 or 9 means. And then you play the likes of Cunningham, North Shore MS , and they are on the sidelines, yelling for their kids to change into different techniques to adjust for the offensive alignment and they do it immediately.  Our kids are at a disadvantage from the time they walk in to the high school doors districtwide. The high school coaches have to teach all these things when I get there because they weren’t taught in junior high immediately putting them behind the eight ball. You have to start from the bottom and go to the top with culture change and that’s what it’s going to take the kids to be successful. End of discussion

BCA mercy rules them 63-6 at halftime

2 hours ago, Bandwagon Ranger said:

42-0

KPark getting to work on their hurry up offense and passing game. Classy.

There comes a time and point where, if you’re giving up 50+ points a game and getting beat every week, and ur avg margin of defeat for the last 3 years, is 36.8pts, it’s not the other team not being classy, it’s the product that’s put on the field that needs to be questioned. If you don’t like them scoring... do something about it and stop them. Those same kids playing basketball and baseball don’t get beat like that, and they fight their tails off to the end, but attitude reflects leadership, and it’s time to cut the head off the snake and go in an entirely new direction. 

1 hour ago, GCMNation5 said:

Where do you find Baytown Sun Stats?

In today’s paper

GCM up 52-0 at the half! 

8 minutes ago, Cougtalk said:

Cougs take over 3;51

Score?

Hadn’t seen him, haven’t had time look anywhere though, NS scores everytime they snap the ball, had long td called back for holding so they did it again the next play. They could score 127pts tongiht it they wanted to, no resistance 

48-0 NS 4 min left in the first half

Here’s the link for the broadcast 

15 hours ago, BoGip7387 said:

38-7 Memorial with backups playing the whole 2nd half. 

That’s a bold prediction, since both schools are Memorial. Port Arthur Memorial and Goose Creek Memorial.  Little more specific, although I’m pretty sure I know what you meant lol.

20 minutes ago, Bronco/Cat Fan said:

Still raining in Crosby?

Should be clear by kickoff, if not, shortly there after. 

On 9/17/2018 at 7:55 AM, MMstangfan said:

Crosby should beat a 4A team every time, but so should PNG , Nederland , Vidor and all other 5A teams. But this is WOS we are talking about , yeah they are still a work in progress this year but if the QB position snaps into place anything can happen. Put a Jack Dallas caliber QB with this team and we would be 3 - 0 . 

It’s raining at my house and I’m 5miles from the stadium, looks like it should be moving out by kickoff

4 minutes ago, CCRed said:

Kpark is not very good at all. 

No they aren’t, a lot of self inflicted wounds aiding in BH halftime lead.

20-3 Barbers Hill at the half.

KP had 3 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, in the first half , the third resulting in KP LB being ejected from the game for going headhunting on a hit during an slide, knocking his helmet off. BH Offense rolling D flying around lighting peop up

Vidor HC Jeff Matthews trolls Barbers Hill after the Eagles loss to Montgomery last night...”take a cue from ur band, they wouldn’t march on our field, now y’all cant even step on the field as us” said Matthews

Don’t read too much into that Angleton score, they got some DUDES over there, kP will be in the playoff hunt.

38-7 THE GOOSE