hunch

Ned white 40-6
Lumb red 15-10

No it doesn't affect lumberton! Not a problem

If bit runs the ball instead of pass because they completed one , they would have won

3 safety's in game so far

Bmt blue adjusting touchdown blue15-8 red blue getting ball back with lots of time

Lum red 15-0 half

let me see what ya'll are thinking about this week

No, unless the tied teams go to points allowed instead of head to head (forfeit) win/loss.  If points allowed which I think is a good idea, then the two Nederland teams would not meet until the super bowl if they both continue to win.  the way it stands now, they would meet in the second round of playoffs. maybe the board will do the right thing with this one.

Bobcat please call me u know who I am

war you missed the point.  they didn't break a rule.  you can't show me one rule they broke can you? here we go again.

marie,

the experience in Nederland was that an ethics committee determined the punishment.  The person that conducted the investigations abstained as well as the chair of the ethics committee.

I learned to keep my mouth shut while the teacher is talking.

lamar, you should have bet the 10k

I agree with most above.  As I have stated numerous times, the rules are not enforced as intended.  The rule regarding "running score up" is to prevent a team from INTENTIONALLY scoring as much as they can.  I think a violation would require some proof of the coaches intention before you could punish him.  The rules do not tell you to try and not score.  If that is what the league wants (agree or not) than the rules should indicate such.  Once you have pulled your starters, 2-3rd stringers should be allowed to run plays they that have learned instead of having to run the ball in the middle of the field.  A coach should not have to tell his kids to run out of bounds etc. as an STJFL rep told one of his coaches when he was faced with that situation. 

 

In reviewing a perceived violation, the head coach of the team should be contacted and told why he is being reviewed and given an opportunity to state what he did or didn't do.  Currently, what I know that has happened this year, is the coach is told you are suspended for rule 10 violation and you can submit a letter offering evidence that you didn't break the rule that board can look at in considering whether or not to grant you an appeal.  Remember, the coach isn't even made aware of specifically what he is accused of doing.  Once your appeal is denied, you can get a copy of the investigative report to learn that the opposing coaches and refs were asked questions but not you.  The questions range from, did winning team pull starters as required, did they run ball up the middle, type of plays run etc.  Even though the referees side with the coach, and the opposing coach doesn't have a complaint on the coach It doesn't matter.

 

To accomplish what it seems the board wants, they should simply state that a team up by x points should intentionally not score.   If team scores then punish them.  I'm not saying I agree with this but it would solve the problem of teams being at the mercy of the board with no clear understanding of the rules. 

 

Other possible things to consider in changing rules: take out the rule regarding points allowed when determining playoffs.  Teams are encouraged to not let someone score in case of tie record in when determining playoff standings.  Possibly let trailing team have ball at 20 yard line until score is under mercy rule.  Possibly having a true mercy rule as in baseball and game is over.

 

It just needs to be clear what the rules are. I agree with Anklebiter that a committee possibly of others that aren't on stjfl board be included in determining a rules violation.  At least present the coach with what he is accused of and let him present his side.

Bobcat, Oh never mind

Once the year is over, I think there will be changes for the better. There has to be. As for now we have to deal with what we have, like it or not. No ones opinions matter just yet so let's just deal with it. Coaching will not stop bmt from scoring against the all mighty Saturday. Their backup coaches will score just like the backup players they have to put in. Bmt 35-8 my guess

The drums are about the only thing that are going to get beat this weekend.

Lamar, whisperer, any others out there.  Can you please enlighten me as to what the outcome will be between Bmt and PNG?  Just curious if the bus has been fixed yet?  Man Vidor ruined a good week of flappin is all I can say.

Luvyablue you are correct. For example Lamar says png sr beats bmt next week. Lol
As Lamar says I have a hunch that is fiction

Jasper fumbles on 2 yard line with 1:21 on clock to give game to lumberton w. Lum coach won that battle by drawing jasper offsides at key times in game. Had a little luck on his side too

Class still starts at 5:45 but we have a substitute teacher now!

I guess Lamar's bus had a flat on the way to Beaumont and didn't have a spare

jag, trust me, they say a lot of things.  I heard the same thing!

I hear you Bugatti!  Like I said, I have no clue what happened.  All I know is if you win by margin of greater than 40, it doesn't matter if it was an mpr player who ran the ball up the middle and scored or whatever.  There was an STJFL rep at a game I witnessed (wasn't a Nederland rep) state, you better tell them to run out of bounds or whatever you have to do to not score.  I just don't think that is what the rule was created for.  I don't think it is enforced properly etc.... I think the true purpose of the rules is for a coach to not MALICIOUSLY attempt to try and run the score up.  I don't think you or your coaches ever do that.  I don't think the Nederland coaches did that.

I personally think if your 2nd, 3rd, string is in after the mercy rule in affect and they score, there should not be a punishment.  Let those kids run a normal play and not have to try not to score.

jag, he didn't suck at baseball, he just didn't excel in the sport like his ol man.  I'm sure if he put a little time into it, he would be awesome there as well.  I will take him, but you need to drop that track thing, he already know how to run.