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[quote name="58SHW" post="1074586" timestamp="1317901766"] [quote author=dawg-lover link=topic=88772.msg1074383#msg1074383 date=1317861842] I see...so [b]apparently some parents didn't agree with their child paying the consequences for what they did[/b]. To each their own I guess... [/quote] Sources say the ones released obtained attorneys. The others have not, at this time. Not to mention I was told "who" each kid is connected to (parents are employees etc), probably makes a bit of difference as well. Just last year a female athlete in Ned was caught do something similar (alcohol related)....SHE was suspended the entire year....key word word SHE. There are 2 types of attention (well 3 if you count none at all) Positive and Negative......make decision based on that, but dont complain about the type you receive AFTER the fact. To one poster, I am not nor have I claimed to be the second coming....it just seems these days that ANYONE who insist on accountability is "holier than thou" ....not it at all. This whole country is going the heck in a hand basket because its always someone eles fault or they are just kids, etc. Bottom line, I guess all of this is Bush's fault. [/quote] Until you know ALL the details then it is unfair for you to post innuendos claiming special treatment to the boys who were disciplined.  I have no hard facts nor will I ever; therefore, I can only say that if the punishment received is satisfactory to the district, the parents and the authorities, then I have to be good with that.  One thing I will not do is comment on what MAY or MAY NOT have happened.  I would also be wary of quoting so-called "sources" unless the source has first hand knowledge.  I also think accountability is paramount for ALL of us...so please hold yourself accountable to posting fact and not fiction. P. S. Sources tell me that Bush disagrees with your point of view.

[quote name="demons95" post="1074618" timestamp="1317905568"] Well I know a guy who knows a guy that has a kid on BMT-G.  He says this guys kid is one heck of a Madden player.  I have to give the nod to them. They are 7 and 8 and you never know what your gonna get. [/quote] They may be 7 and 8, but for some reason 3 of these teams are unbeaten (for now).  I think you know what you're going to get by watching each team perform and evaluating matchups from similar teams played.  Quit setting up your excuse as to why BMT G is gonna win.

[quote name="dogfather" post="1074518" timestamp="1317873139"] JUST PLAYIN WTH U BMT DONT GET UPSET..YA'LL ARE THE "REAL DEAL" AS THEY SAY TOO! [/quote] Yes they are! All the way to the 'Bowl with PNG G.

[quote name="The Godfather" post="1074504" timestamp="1317870708"] PS - Just say No to cow tipping Satisfactory? lol [/quote] YEP!

[quote name="Knoddy1" post="1074496" timestamp="1317870277"] Well the two players got re-instated and some of you hate it so badly that you just cannot let it go.  You heard this, you heard that, you assume this, but you really know nothing, you just heard it and that's good enough for you....I really hope if you guys or your kids every get a little bit sideways people don't judge you the way you are these kids. 64 was right missing the mcm game is like a season, they know they let their team down, the students, their parents, the town..they can't undo it, I'm sure they wish they could. What would really be nice if everyone would close out this thread..enough has been said. [/quote] [quote author=The Godfather link=topic=88772.msg1074499#msg1074499 date=1317870338] I remember a similar instance happened in Ned a few years back. Not sure if that incident received this much pub. Look, kids make mistakes and are then subjugated to the required punishment. If they are granted the appeal by going through the proper channels, then more power to them. And if you're a tax paying citizen of Nederland upset by the decision, then attend The school board meeting and have your voice heard. Hopefully, these student-athletes have learned a valuable lesson and never put themselves or another in a similar situation again. [/quote] THE END... (Except you didn't address cow-tipping)

[quote name="bigdog" post="1074479" timestamp="1317868013"] [quote]Hey neighbors , there a few on here that will keep this going as long as ya'll keep arguing.  May this thread rest in peace also.][/quote] Yep.  Time to go bye-bye. [/quote] ...But it's just now getting good!  Lol!  Okay, what if these guys were from another town, say Silsbee for instance...and they were caught "cow-tipping"...then what would we do to them???

[quote name="Gtj007" post="1074464" timestamp="1317866838"] Hey Aggie,  why do you care if their punishment was cut in half???  It's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!!!!!  You don't need an answer to that question.  Do you live in the   Nederland district??  Do you pay taxes to NISD???  If you really need to know go to the administration building and ask.  I'm sure they will tell you everything you need to know about matters that are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. [/quote] Why are you hating on AGGIE?  Unless your child is involved, it doesn't concern you either.  Regardless, who cares that they get to play?  If time was served, then they should be reinstated.

[quote name="Tex22" post="1074370" timestamp="1317860436"] You guys crack me up, way too much time on your hands. Im not sure what happened in the org-fld game, but PA is the most physical team in the league, and their not too slow either.  Lum r will get a taste this wk.  I can only assume they let them score cause no one else had scored much including PNG g. If PNG g can beat both Lum r and WOS then i would give them the nod. If not, and BMT beats Lum W i would give them the nod. Also i don't think yall are giving PN credit on their speed, they had several long runs against PA.  But PA has been their only test.  That will change in the next few wks. [/quote] Partner, I don't know what posts you've been reading, but I don't think the majority of guys out here have questioned PNG-G's speed.  I think they will go undefeated. As far as PA is concerned, they are not a playoff team (due to eligibility), so nobody discusses them that much.

[quote name="DawgsOfGold" post="1074298" timestamp="1317850983"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=89311.msg1074251#msg1074251 date=1317848055] [quote author=dogfather link=topic=89311.msg1074243#msg1074243 date=1317847276] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=89311.msg1074114#msg1074114 date=1317837992] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=89311.msg1073940#msg1073940 date=1317825807] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=89311.msg1073931#msg1073931 date=1317825143] Potential 1st Rnd Matchups: GAME 1: #1BMT G vs #4 Bmt B Game 2. #2 Lum W vs #3 Lum R Game 3. #1 Png G vs #4 Png W Game 4. #2 Wos vs #3 Ned B [/quote]Yall will not be picking Lum-R over white after PN-g Rolls threw lumbreton (plays all their kids for 2 full quarters) Sorry red ! No ofense .......They will roll -Here's the deal every time I have seen BMT play someone I have not really seen them pull off their dogs. Do to them not having a winning season in past yrs. They are ready for redemption! Understandable! But here is the Kicker PN-G is running it up not even trying. I know some of those kids over there. They are running away with it - with kids that will never touch the ball again Linemen 3rd&4th stringers. THEY ARE DEEP THEY WILL WIN SUPER BOWL !!!!The Dogfather said it first remember that. PEEWEE FANS and FANS OF ALL! Good work, now keep going. Bmt G beats Bmt G Lum W vs Lum R (give me your pick) Png G beats Png W WOS vs Ned B (give me your pick) [/quote]I'll take Lum R because u said they hit harder. [/quote] [/quote] I can see PNG G taking it all...what I was asking was the 1st round projected matchup of Lum R and Lum W.  White would appear to be the favorite... [/quote]This dude has jokes. We never call the dogs off. PLZ, we have Mercy Ruled every team we've played. Including the teams that are currently in the Top 5 power rankings Some by half-time, others a lil later. Can PNG G say that. Y'all put up 15 against P.A, OF did that. And every other team y'all played gives up 40 to everybody. I bet those 3rd & 4th stringers wont be touching the ball vs Wos and Lum R. And I guarantee you they wont be against us ;) [/quote] To be fair, it is my understanding you never had to take your backfield out of the game against Lum R.  Bmt G scored and up by 28, then Lum R got the last possession and the game ended.  Still whipped em though.

[quote name="DawgsOfGold" post="1074261" timestamp="1317848758"] [quote author=demons95 link=topic=89140.msg1074240#msg1074240 date=1317847060] #3 scored all offensive touchdowns except one that I can remember and he is 8.  You are right I have no affiliation with pee-wee white.  Both of my kids have been fortunate enough to play for Chris and he's a buddy of mine.  He has plenty of good coaches to help him.  I understand what your saying but day in day out he puts together winning teams and believe me they played fast kids last year.  Guess what that got them?  A big ol Undefeated Super Bowl CHAMPIONSHIP trophy.  I know what you're gonna say BMT-G kids are phenoms unlike any other kid we've ever seen.  Until these kids start showing up on Marvel comic books they are still kids and not super heros. [/quote]Obviously you didn't watch the game. #3 had all the touchdowns :D He only had 1 dude. Yes he's 8 but he was 7 when the season started  ;) [/quote] Demons95 just talking smack to keep his mind off of losing...lol.

[quote name="baddog" post="1074253" timestamp="1317848258"] You can take that and run with it....it's cool. You know what I meant. Women at the gossip fence........ [/quote] It's all good...

[quote name="dogfather" post="1074243" timestamp="1317847276"] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=89311.msg1074114#msg1074114 date=1317837992] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=89311.msg1073940#msg1073940 date=1317825807] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=89311.msg1073931#msg1073931 date=1317825143] Potential 1st Rnd Matchups: GAME 1: #1BMT G vs #4 Bmt B Game 2. #2 Lum W vs #3 Lum R Game 3. #1 Png G vs #4 Png W Game 4. #2 Wos vs #3 Ned B [/quote]Yall will not be picking Lum-R over white after PN-g Rolls threw lumbreton (plays all their kids for 2 full quarters) Sorry red ! No ofense .......They will roll -Here's the deal every time I have seen BMT play someone I have not really seen them pull off their dogs. Do to them not having a winning season in past yrs. They are ready for redemption! Understandable! But here is the Kicker PN-G is running it up not even trying. I know some of those kids over there. They are running away with it - with kids that will never touch the ball again Linemen 3rd&4th stringers. THEY ARE DEEP THEY WILL WIN SUPER BOWL !!!!The Dogfather said it first remember that. PEEWEE FANS and FANS OF ALL! Good work, now keep going. Bmt G beats Bmt G Lum W vs Lum R (give me your pick) Png G beats Png W WOS vs Ned B (give me your pick) [/quote]I'll take Lum R because u said they hit harder. [/quote] [/quote] I can see PNG G taking it all...what I was asking was the 1st round projected matchup of Lum R and Lum W.  White would appear to be the favorite...

[quote name="demons95" post="1074240" timestamp="1317847060"] #3 scored all offensive touchdowns except one that I can remember and he is 8.  You are right I have no affiliation with pee-wee white.  Both of my kids have been fortunate enough to play for Chris and he's a buddy of mine.  He has plenty of good coaches to help him.  I understand what your saying but day in day out he puts together winning teams and believe me they played fast kids last year.  Guess what that got them?  A big ol Undefeated Super Bowl CHAMPIONSHIP trophy.  I know what you're gonna say BMT-G kids are phenoms unlike any other kid we've ever seen.  Until these kids start showing up on Marvel comic books they are still kids and not super heros. [/quote] Awesome kids (you left off the awesome part). Well the Ned B and Lum R head coaches will tell you what kind of team Bmt G is...and they have good teams too.  I understand your kid plays on Lum W, and I also agree that Olexa has a helluva coaching skill and great group of boys...I also know that if you underestimate Bmt G, you'll be talking about the 2010 Trophy next year too (cuz there won't be one in 2011)!  Good luck and stay healthy.

[quote name="baddog" post="1074239" timestamp="1317846785"] Can we leave these kids alone now? 11 pages GEEEEEEZ, what busybodies. Worse than women [/quote] I agree.  My issue isn't with the kids, but with un intelligible posts...and just to stir the pot, "is there something wrong with women?" (OK ladies, this is your cue...lol).

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1074230" timestamp="1317845372"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1074225#msg1074225 date=1317845050] [quote author=58SHW link=topic=88772.msg1074212#msg1074212 date=1317844265] Yes I did. And that probably came off wrong. I was basing that on a 6 week (original) punishment, in which the season would be over. Hence, the rest of the season. And you are correct, I hate football as much as you like drunken kids on campus.....now who is sounding rediculus? ::) [/quote] You are still... Who said (other than a message board and rumor mill) that the punishment was 6 weeks?  Do you know for a fact that all involved were in trouble to the same degree?  Is there a chance that some of what you are considering to be fact is merely heresay? I think the kids were wrong.  I think they should be punished.  I think that crucifying them and all other athletes (as you appear to want per your postings) is wrong. [/quote] It was confirmed to me by people "in the know" that it was 30 day suspensions. School suspensions (at least from my personal knowledge) are counted by school days, do not include weekends. In this case, this is well short of the "30" days. But, there could be a valid reason for the suspension being cut short. [/quote] Certainly possible, but then again, you are not out on a witch hunt for wayward athletes... 58SHW doesn't seem to realize that athletics are a positive influence in MANY young men and young ladies lives.

[quote name="58SHW" post="1074212" timestamp="1317844265"] Yes I did. And that probably came off wrong. I was basing that on a 6 week (original) punishment, in which the season would be over. Hence, the rest of the season. And you are correct, I hate football as much as you like drunken kids on campus.....now who is sounding rediculus? ::) [/quote] You are still... Who said (other than a message board and rumor mill) that the punishment was 6 weeks?  Do you know for a fact that all involved were in trouble to the same degree?  Is there a chance that some of what you are considering to be fact is merely heresay? I think the kids were wrong.  I think they should be punished.  I think that crucifying them and all other athletes (as you appear to want per your postings) is wrong.

[quote name="demons95" post="1074203" timestamp="1317843727"] Maybe ya'll are right but there are still a few games left to be played before then.  I don't personally coach pee-wee but I would be willing to bet Chris will have the kids ready to play.  They may not win but from start to finish those boys will be ready to play.  By the way we have very little speed on Senior White this year and have shut down several speedy players so you can stop speed and can coach to stop it as well.  Good luck to all you 7 yr old bandwagon riders and may your odds hit.  I'm sure a few of ya'll have gambled on this. HA HA [/quote] I have no doubt they will be ready to play!  What's amazing about these Bmt G boys is that the better players on their team ARE only 7...amazing.  Demons95, are you telling me right now that you have NO coaching affiliation with Lum W???

[quote name="58SHW" post="1074198" timestamp="1317843566"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1074189#msg1074189 date=1317843134] [quote author=58SHW link=topic=88772.msg1074180#msg1074180 date=1317842616] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1074175#msg1074175 date=1317842307] [quote author=58SHW link=topic=88772.msg1074171#msg1074171 date=1317842223] [quote author=the sports guy link=topic=88772.msg1074164#msg1074164 date=1317841910] If you think it doesnt happen in your neck of the woods....your wrong.  Suspended not suspended, in trouble for this one but not that one.....it happens everywhere.  [b]It doesnt matter[/b].  It happens now and will continue to happen. Its life.  Get over it.  I have seen worse.  I am sure everyone else has seen worse. [/quote] I agree, (except with the the "it doesn't matter part") hence my comment "but its ok, because everyone else is doing it" AND, just because there are worse crimes (or mistakes) shouldnt mean we negate the lesser ones to meaningless all together. [/quote] Answer this, please...What do you think a fair punishment would be for the boys in Nederland who got into trouble? [/quote] For starters, equal to all involved (since it's being stated that it isnt) second, being they either had alcohol (which is considered a drug) on campus or under the influence while on campus (and that it is against federal law to do so) Id expect at least a season suspension, not a game or two. [/quote] If some were not athletes, then what do you do to the non-athlete...since we're keeping it equal and everything?  Kinda blows your so-called "equal" punishment out of the water. [/quote] No it doesn't....depending on the severity of the offense. They either serve equal time in in school suspenion, or off campus suspension...PERIOD! And, I looked up the FEDERAL LAW, and alcohol is listed as as drug as it pertains to the Drug-Free School Zone, which includes up to 1000' of any property utilized by the school. [/quote] But you said the athletes should be prohibited from participating in football for the rest of the season...Since we are being equal, why are you basing punishment periods on football season.  Sounds to me like someone here is a football hater more and more.

[quote name="pngfan97" post="1074187" timestamp="1317842904"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=89311.msg1074169#msg1074169 date=1317842179] [quote author=pngfan97 link=topic=89311.msg1074165#msg1074165 date=1317841943] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=89311.msg1074159#msg1074159 date=1317841374] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=89311.msg1074114#msg1074114 date=1317837992] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=89311.msg1073940#msg1073940 date=1317825807] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=89311.msg1073931#msg1073931 date=1317825143] Potential 1st Rnd Matchups: GAME 1: #1BMT G vs #4 Bmt B Game 2. #2 Lum W vs #3 Lum R Game 3. #1 Png G vs #4 Png W Game 4. #2 Wos vs #3 Ned B [/quote] Good work, now keep going. Bmt G beats Bmt G Lum W vs Lum R (give me your pick) Png G beats Png W WOS vs Ned B (give me your pick) [/quote]I'll take Lum R because u said they hit harder. [/quote] LOL...good one.  What about WOS vs Ned B [/quote] WOS [/quote] I agree 100%...don't know about the 2 Lum teams though.  Both are good...but 1 is 4-2 and 1 is 6-0...should be the answer righ there.  Whatcha think? [/quote] IMO, I think this is a toss up.  Lum W barely got by Ned B, and other than that their schedule has been pretty easy.  Lum R lost to two very good teams in Bmt G and WOS.  Bmt G handled Ned B like they did Lum R, and it may come down to who has had more tests in the regular season.  If that is the case, I'm going with Lum R. [color=red][b] Plus they hit harder[/b][/color]. [/quote] Good analysis...and I get your "hit harder" comment. Lol.

[quote name="58SHW" post="1074180" timestamp="1317842616"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=88772.msg1074175#msg1074175 date=1317842307] [quote author=58SHW link=topic=88772.msg1074171#msg1074171 date=1317842223] [quote author=the sports guy link=topic=88772.msg1074164#msg1074164 date=1317841910] If you think it doesnt happen in your neck of the woods....your wrong.  Suspended not suspended, in trouble for this one but not that one.....it happens everywhere.  [b]It doesnt matter[/b].  It happens now and will continue to happen. Its life.  Get over it.  I have seen worse.  I am sure everyone else has seen worse. [/quote] I agree, (except with the the "it doesn't matter part") hence my comment "but its ok, because everyone else is doing it" AND, just because there are worse crimes (or mistakes) shouldnt mean we negate the lesser ones to meaningless all together. [/quote] Answer this, please...What do you think a fair punishment would be for the boys in Nederland who got into trouble? [/quote] For starters, equal to all involved (since it's being stated that it isnt) second, being they either had alcohol (which is considered a drug) on campus or under the influence while on campus (and that it is against federal law to do so) Id expect at least a season suspension, not a game or two. [/quote] If some were not athletes, then what do you do to the non-athlete...since we're keeping it equal and everything?  Kinda blows your so-called "equal" punishment out of the water.

[quote name="58SHW" post="1074171" timestamp="1317842223"] [quote author=the sports guy link=topic=88772.msg1074164#msg1074164 date=1317841910] If you think it doesnt happen in your neck of the woods....your wrong.  Suspended not suspended, in trouble for this one but not that one.....it happens everywhere.  [b]It doesnt matter[/b].  It happens now and will continue to happen. Its life.  Get over it.  I have seen worse.  I am sure everyone else has seen worse. [/quote] I agree, (except with the the "it doesn't matter part") hence my comment "but its ok, because everyone else is doing it" AND, just because there are worse crimes (or mistakes) shouldnt mean we negate the lesser ones to meaningless all together. [/quote] Answer this, please...What do you think a fair punishment would be for the boys in Nederland who got into trouble?

[quote name="pngfan97" post="1074165" timestamp="1317841943"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=89311.msg1074159#msg1074159 date=1317841374] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=89311.msg1074114#msg1074114 date=1317837992] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=89311.msg1073940#msg1073940 date=1317825807] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=89311.msg1073931#msg1073931 date=1317825143] Potential 1st Rnd Matchups: GAME 1: #1BMT G vs #4 Bmt B Game 2. #2 Lum W vs #3 Lum R Game 3. #1 Png G vs #4 Png W Game 4. #2 Wos vs #3 Ned B [/quote] Good work, now keep going. Bmt G beats Bmt G Lum W vs Lum R (give me your pick) Png G beats Png W WOS vs Ned B (give me your pick) [/quote]I'll take Lum R because u said they hit harder. [/quote] LOL...good one.  What about WOS vs Ned B [/quote] WOS [/quote] I agree 100%...don't know about the 2 Lum teams though.  Both are good...but 1 is 4-2 and 1 is 6-0...should be the answer righ there.  Whatcha think?

[quote name="58SHW" post="1074163" timestamp="1317841779"] [quote author=dawg-lover link=topic=88772.msg1074158#msg1074158 date=1317841334] Isn't that the truth?! lol But, all of these kids are athletes. Just not "football players". [/quote] Ah look, here is one that understands! Maybe so, and if we were in THAT season, then they would be getting released. [/quote] So much for being "OUT"... I bid you a good day and the hope for a better (and more intelligent) tomorrow.

[quote name="Knoddy1" post="1074139" timestamp="1317839727"] I think I remember reading that the exact punishment for the two Ned boys would be re-evaluated after additional information was gathered, and this was before the Vidor game. obviously with their reinstatement that was done, I do not know or have knowledge of that information, and some of the Judges on this thread don't either.  Just a little info for 58shu if  the guys reinstatement was because of our opponent, then it would have happened last week before we played PN G...that was a bigger game for the dogs than this week [size=18pt][u][b]and if you don't know that then you are truly clueless[/b][/u][/size]. [/quote] 58SHU is TRULY clueless!

[quote name="DawgsOfGold" post="1074114" timestamp="1317837992"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=89311.msg1073940#msg1073940 date=1317825807] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=89311.msg1073931#msg1073931 date=1317825143] Potential 1st Rnd Matchups: GAME 1: #1BMT G vs #4 Bmt B Game 2. #2 Lum W vs #3 Lum R Game 3. #1 Png G vs #4 Png W Game 4. #2 Wos vs #3 Ned B [/quote] Good work, now keep going. Bmt G beats Bmt G Lum W vs Lum R (give me your pick) Png G beats Png W WOS vs Ned B (give me your pick) [/quote]I'll take Lum R because u said they hit harder. [/quote] LOL...good one.  What about WOS vs Ned B