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[quote name="Gusher" post="1095658" timestamp="1319720042"] My guess and it is only a guess. North- (Lumb. white and blue, Kountze, Bmt, LC, Vidor, & Orangefield) 7 teams 3 playoff teams. South- (Ned. white and black, PNG white and purple, PA, WOS, BC) 7 teams 5 playoff teams. Playoff teams only listed because if the team is in the supperbowl the player will not be in the probowl. So a team might be able to bring a few more kids to make up the difference. [/quote] You have omitted a BMT team and PNG G...is this because you think BMT G and PNG G will be in the Superbowl???

[quote name="demons95" post="1095647" timestamp="1319719551"] Yes he definitely did.  He paid for everyones food and even got the guys he didnt think would be there next week orders to go. ;D [/quote] Exactly...hope you guys had a good time.

[quote name="demons95" post="1095641" timestamp="1319719110"] Thanks again Chris for getting this little trash talk session together each year.  It was great to get back together with all the guys.  The thing that stands out the most with all the stories is that although we do all the the trash talking and razzing of each other all of the coaches are truly there for the same reason which is the kids.  Its funny that since this started 3 years ago it seems like its still the same coaches each year and that says something about your character and organization.  Good Luck to all in the playoffs. [/quote] Question of the day...Did Olexa pick up any of the tab??? LOL.

[quote name="rleefelt" post="1095365" timestamp="1319675561"] From what I read about last weeks game, Silsbee has a QB controversy.  The Drake kid did a very good job of running the offense. [/quote] No controversy...this ain't the NFL...the coach will start who he wants to and take it from there.

[quote name="PA4Life" post="1095376" timestamp="1319675963"] I wonde if the STJFL will let Port Arthu's players paticipate in the Pro Bowl?  Or will they ban the kids fom the Pro Bowl also.  Just asking... [/quote] I don't see why they wouldn't.  It has nothing to do with playoffs.  I hope they let them.  Good question though.

[quote name="BigTitan" post="1095350" timestamp="1319674906"] [quote author=AllSportsMom link=topic=90339.msg1093310#msg1093310 date=1319497924] On Jr level-PA wouldn't make it past PNG-White in Round 2 [/quote] PNG W won by 1 touchdown.  that means it was a competitve game. In competitive games, all teams are respected and are capable of winning. So you never know, PA might be good enough to beat big bad PNG W. lol Their last games were 38-6 47-0 46-0 46-0.  They can play too. lol [/quote] Good point...anything can happen at this age...

[quote name="the-riot07" post="1095336" timestamp="1319674310"] People from silsbee remind me of sad cowboy fans! Their is no such thing as beating yourself when their is another team on the field! Some how some way they made the plays to win the game and y'all didn't! Get over it! [/quote] Difference is, Silsbee has an awesome record...Cowboys don't... Silsbee will take care of business...

No excuses please...A win is a win is a win...just as a loss is a loss.  BC beat Silsbee...That being said, I still look for the Tigers to win this one at home...

[quote name="LHSALLZONE" post="1095277" timestamp="1319669275"] thats what ive been told, pro bowls a go [/quote] Only reason I ask is because there was talk on one of the boards today that it may not happen this year.  Glad to hear it's still a "go".

Any word on whether or not they are still honoring kids from each team with this event?

[quote name="queenb77630" post="1095112" timestamp="1319660929"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=90456.msg1095081#msg1095081 date=1319659616] [quote author=demons95 link=topic=90456.msg1095077#msg1095077 date=1319659442] What's all this mushy stuff smash?  ;D Are you trying to tell me you actually have feelings?  You dirty dawg I knew you had it in you. [/quote] It's just that...well...the STJFL playoffs make me emotional... :'(...[color=red]AND FIRED UP![/color] 8) >:( 8) [/quote] oh my, that one actually made me laugh out loud.  You guys crack me up with all the trash talk.  To think, men say women are bad about the "cat fights".  ;D ;D ;D  I'm gonna miss you guys, I really am. :-\ [/quote] Thanks queen, but it's not trash talk...it's how we really feel.  Pity our wives...

[quote name="demons95" post="1095077" timestamp="1319659442"] What's all this mushy stuff smash?  ;D Are you trying to tell me you actually have feelings?  You dirty dawg I knew you had it in you. [/quote] It's just that...well...the STJFL playoffs make me emotional... :'(...[color=red]AND FIRED UP![/color] 8) >:( 8)

[quote name="thetragichippy" post="1094823" timestamp="1319649192"] [quote author=lu cards link=topic=90456.msg1094819#msg1094819 date=1319648790] [quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=90456.msg1094806#msg1094806 date=1319647936] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=90456.msg1094778#msg1094778 date=1319646816] [quote author=lu cards link=topic=90456.msg1094776#msg1094776 date=1319646560] [quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=90456.msg1094759#msg1094759 date=1319645319] [quote author=ndndad link=topic=90456.msg1094753#msg1094753 date=1319645136] I knew that when I started it, but also knew that I would get some honest feedback. All opinions were appreciated and I am going to use them to turn this situation into a positive one. [/quote] If you and your son can use this situation that way and he learns to harness his aggression and competitiveness, then this can be a great teachable moment.  I'll give you this, you are pretty brave for putting this out for everyone to see and comment on.  It sounds like your son is very talented.  I hope this is just a bump in the road for him. [/quote]its great you want to make this situation a positive but its sucks for the coaches of that team that are having there judgement questioned on a public message board. [/quote] No harm done with ndndad's post, I think.  From a previous coach's perspective and from a parent's perspective, it's awesome!  Enlightenment!!! [/quote] I agree.....as a coach you should be able to take other peoples perspectives......good and bad.... It will make you grow [/quote]i agree 100% that a coach should take other perspectives but not on a messageboard where you get one side of the story.if i were coaching i would hope the parent would pull me aside and we handle with a simple conversation.to each his own. [/quote] I agree with you, this probably was not the "best" place. With that said, he seemed to tell the entire story, and accepted some of the responsibility.  Based on what I read, he seemed more at fault (at least with the way he handled it) and he accepted the feedback.  When a parent gets on here, it normally goes down hill quickly.....so, I respect him for listening and taking the advice....... [/quote] My sentiments too...

Lord please heal this child and comfort this grieving family as you see fit.  In Jesus's name, we pray. Amen.

[quote name="queenb77630" post="1094780" timestamp="1319646833"] [quote author=Birddogtx link=topic=90339.msg1094659#msg1094659 date=1319640261] Since wall have similar opinions on the best teams at each level, who would be your sleeper picks?  Birddog [/quote] don't know about sleepers but I am telling all of you moms, dads, grannies and granddads out there: We we all know WOS is an awesome team and can kick rear  ;D ... you all better watch out for Port Arthur next year!  Can't speak for any other then Senior level.  I still have nightmares about that game ... and we won!  :o [/quote] Their Pee Wee team is legit too!

[quote name="lu cards" post="1094776" timestamp="1319646560"] [quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=90456.msg1094759#msg1094759 date=1319645319] [quote author=ndndad link=topic=90456.msg1094753#msg1094753 date=1319645136] I knew that when I started it, but also knew that I would get some honest feedback. All opinions were appreciated and I am going to use them to turn this situation into a positive one. [/quote] If you and your son can use this situation that way and he learns to harness his aggression and competitiveness, then this can be a great teachable moment.  I'll give you this, you are pretty brave for putting this out for everyone to see and comment on.  It sounds like your son is very talented.  I hope this is just a bump in the road for him. [/quote]its great you want to make this situation a positive but its sucks for the coaches of that team that are having there judgement questioned on a public message board. [/quote] No harm done with ndndad's post, I think.  From a previous coach's perspective and from a parent's perspective, it's awesome!  Enlightenment!!!

[quote name="ndndad" post="1094753" timestamp="1319645136"] I knew that when I started it, but also knew that I would get some honest feedback. All opinions were appreciated and I am going to use them to turn this situation into a positive one. [/quote] GOOD CALL!

[quote name="football04" post="1094748" timestamp="1319644860"] WOW, this is a hot topic, nothing gets the masses typing faster than a complaint about youth coaches [/quote] For me it is not in defense of a youth coach...like I stated in my previous post, there are good and bad ones.  I hoped to share my opinion about a situation that could possibly help a young athlete better himself.  I know that sounds corny, but it's true.  Athletics (especially football in my opinion) is a great way to teach life lessons and build character.  I want it to stay that way.

[quote name="ndndad" post="1094729" timestamp="1319643851"] Thanks for the honest opinions. I didn't hold him out because I was angry, I held him out because they didn't need him until we were behind and wanted him to bail them out. I agree with the assessment of his attitude, but I don't have that issue with him at home. I am not able to be there with him at practices, so not sure what happens there. I have coached kids with agressive behavior before and would like to think that I did everything I could to help them. I would never try to sweep it under the rug. The defensive coach did a great job and got the most out of him, so why couldn't the offensive coach? That's my point and I will leave it at that. [/quote] At least you are honest.  That is admirable.  I will caution one thing...Football is a TEAM sport.  Your son was not bailing "them" out (if bailing out is even the correct term to use)...he was stepping up for the TEAM (himself included).  In your defense, all coaches are not good mentors.  All coaches are not good problen-solvers.  All coaches are not all Good coaches.  Do the best with what you are given...it's all you can do.  Try to be a good role model for your son and sometimes that's all YOU can do.  Once again, good luck to you both.

[quote name="ndndad" post="1094692" timestamp="1319642535"] He's a very aggresive kid who hates to lose. He does have an attitude, but lots of kids do in every sport. I expected his coaches to maybe sit him or work with him, but that didn't happen. He's not perfect, but to just ignore the problem isn't acceptable to me. He needed a positive role model to work him thru it and didn't get that. [/quote] ndndad, with the limited knowledge that I have of the situation, I will make the following comment. The attitude problem is mainly YOUR responsibility more than the coaches.  They get to coach him a few afternoons a week and at game time along with 25 or so other kids.  Your are his Dad, and you should have a hand in this too! Additionally, if you did not allow him to play QB when the coach wanted to send him in...let's just say that situation speaks for itself. I would bench a starter in a heartbeat if he could not come to the field with a good attitude and TEAM focus. I hope he has a great playoffs and a bright future.

[quote name="ndndad" post="1094642" timestamp="1319638153"] My son played in Junior this year and I thought it was going to be another fun year. Let me start by saying he was the qb of a PeeWee team that won the Super Bowl and played qb and rb as a 9yr old last and helped a team that didn't win a game the year before make the playoffs. This year, as a 10, we expected big things from him and the team. We found out early on that the "coach" didn't want him to play qb and that he would get touches at rb. I thought that was strange, but didn't say anything. We started off the season with a record of 3-1 and my son scored 10 out of 15 tds with limited touches on offense. We then played a powerhouse team and lost by 40+ points. The "coach" got mad because he said my son quit on his team. Instead of "coaching" him and making him a better player, he decided my son wasn't going to play offense anymore. Any one else see a problem with this? It gets better. My son wasn't allowed to play offense the final 4 games of the season UNTIL the final game when we were losing by 6 with just over a minute to play. They called him in to play qb and I told the "coach" that my son didn't play offense. Was I wrong? Well the final straw was when I found out that he didn't make the allstar team because we only had a couple of chances. I know he's my kid and I might be a bit biased, but he was far and away the best player on our team and I feel like instead of coaching my boy the "coaches" decided that they would rather just not deal with him because of his attitude. I thought that as a coach you were supposed to help mold young boys into not only athletes, but better people. If you think I am just whining, maybe you're right, but if it happened to your child, you would feel the same way. [/quote] That's a crappy situation to be in.  When the coach was gonna put your kid in at QB, and you informed the coach he didn't play offense, did you allow your son to play QB or did he not go in? Did your son really have an attitude, or did the coaches have a misperception of him? My son's 1st year in Pee Wee, he was the best O-Lineman...not just my opinion, but the Line Coach and Head Coach's opinion as well.  He wasn't picked on All Stars because the Head Coach said his policy was to put only 2nd year guys on All Stars since they would be moving up next year. Sometimes you have to say, "There's always next year."  The coach has the final say, and that's just how it works...right or wrong.

[quote name="demons95" post="1094624" timestamp="1319636794"] BWW tonight.  See ya'll there.  Will Ocho show?  Will smash show?    We will have to see coach.  I know we will be there LUM SR. WHITE. [/quote] Smash will not show...got to work tonight; I will be there in spirit.

[quote name="LR2014" post="1094593" timestamp="1319634797"] Vidor wins 3-0 [/quote] I think you had a "type-o"...was that supposed to be 30 to 0? Just sayin'...

[quote name="ST413" post="1093980" timestamp="1319566955"] Haven't killed anything yet but did sit on my stand yesterday evening trying to see a pig and saw the nicest rack that I have seen on that stand. A good nine point here in setx. He didn't realize how lucky he was, the crosshairs were in the kill zone, only a couple weeks too early. [/quote] Do you hunt in Hardin County?

[quote name="Rebel Yeller" post="1093768" timestamp="1319555485"] I have mixed emotions on this. Been on the losing end of some of those lopped side losses, but recently had to consider another point of view. If it is late in the season and teams you are playing are not really good when you get a lead and put in the second team or JV players then you are taking your players who will need to be sharp for the playoffs out of the game. Coaches will talk about reps. The average high school game offenses get between 45 to 60 snaps. If your team is winning then you could be looking at half to 3/4 of the snaps being taken by your first team. If you have a good team then your starters get as little as one game in two blow outs. That could really hurt you in the playoffs especially if your division has three teams which means that a district champ will have a bye in the first round of the playoffs. Also when second team guys or JV players get in the game then they want to prove themselves, so they are running hard, making plays and are up against players that are tired from playing the entire game up against fresh legs. Those players will whatever they can to score, impress the coaches and run up the score in the process. I agree with an earlier comment, about calling time outs and things that are out of the ordinary in order to score, but if you continue to run inside the tackles and the other team can't stop you then what are you to do. If you intercept passes and run them back for TD's. If you return punts for scores what are you suposed to do?...Take a knee starting once you get up by 21 or 35 or 42. What number is enough to start saying you won? [/quote] Only if it's less than 2 minutes would I take a knee.  Everything else, I agree with in your post.