bobcatfan

This is a bit of a surprise for me.  Sigler left a very loaded Clarksville team.  Clarksville will be preseason top 2 or 3 in TABC and the odds on favorite to go to Austin.  They shouldve been in Austin this past year, had it not been for the huge shocker Tenaha pulled off in the regional finals.  I watched the game and was very impressed with Clarksville, who has 3A/4A athletes like the Cayuga teams of recent years.  Silsbee is a great job no doubt, I just wonder why he left such a good situation in the first place... 

Patrick Moore for Dodd City makes all state as a junior.  He was the best player on the #4 team in state in Dodd City that went undefeated in the regular season.  I saw him play once and he was pretty legit.  Yet he's not good enough to make it this year.  Although there is a player on this list whos team didnt even make the playoffs.  Can anyone take a wild guess at who the 1A-II region 3 all state coordinator was??

Burkeville will have to contend with Michael Anderson for Laneville, who is one of the best players in the region and will probably be all state.  I saw him play against a very good #13 Saltillo team this year and he put up around 25 pts and they had no answer for him.  Laneville is very athletic for a 1A-II team and pressures the ball a lot.  It wouldnt shock me if Laneville somehow won the region, if there was a team to beat Dodd City it would be someone like Laneville.

[quote name="The Spy" post="969404" timestamp="1298265475"]
Yea but half of Martinsvilles games are vs teams like Gary, apple springs and centerville, Burkeville came out of the toughest district in the region, and IMO idt Martinsville is any better than leggett or spurger or even goodrich. So Bkv has the edge in this one
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I'm failing to understand the argument here.  How can you criticize Martinsville's predistrict schedule, when outside of Silsbee, the 2 best teams Burkeville played before district were in Martinsville's district.  Burkeville lost to Kennard and # 9 Wells, and they lost to #9 Wells by 30 pts (74-45).  Kennard was the 4th place team in Martinsville's district.  Burkeville also lost to Broaddus who Wells beat by 30 pts.  Did I mention that Martinsville beat Wells once in district?  Kennard took Wells to overtime and Chireno, the 3rd place team in Martinsville's district, beat Martinsville on feb 15.  With 2 top 10 ranked teams, I think you could make the argument that 23-1A-II is just as good as 24-1A-II.  18-1A-II may have been the toughest district of all of them though with #4 Dodd City, Roxton, and Miller Grove (plus Ector who MG had to beat in a playoff).  I would not call Martinsville's schedule weak either.  They beat Tenaha (who just beat 3A Center) who won 22-1A-I and has be ranked and could be in the regional tournament.  They played Tenaha (22-1A-I), Woden (22-2A), Gary(22-1A-I), Elysian Fields (20-2A), who are all playoff teams and only lost to Woden.  I would speculate Martinsville is pretty close one way or another to the top 4 in 24-1A-II but I dont know how you could give Burkeville the edge by any measurement or standard given.

http://hoopinsider.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5067346

I started doing projections for the playoffs just to see what it looked like.  I based it on current standings now plus tiebreakers, schedule, some guessing and gut feeling.  I realize that some of this information may change in the next couple weeks since some districts have only played oone round of district play.  I may update in a week or 2 if or when some of the standings change.  Some of the district information was kinda hard to find, so if you have some information to add on a district for these brackets, send me a PM.  I couldnt find much on districts 17 and 20 in 1A-II, so if you have any info on that let me know.

[quote name="Mustangs Basketball" post="945377" timestamp="1294674365"]
I think Burkeville Should be in the top 25
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Up until their big win over Leggett, Burkeville really didnt have any big wins over any other notable teams that would get them recognition.  They lost to Silsbee by 50, they lost to 1A-II Wells by 30, they lost to unranked 1A Broaddus by 30 and lost to unranked 1A-II Kennard.  I just dont think that resume is good enough to warrant a ranking.

[quote name="nuthinbutnet" post="928691" timestamp="1291823091"]
Being in the stands, yes this was an upset. [b]When ever a #22 beats a #5 team, it is an upset[/b].
Spurger and WS were very competitive throughout the first half. If I recall it right, the spread never got above 3 or 4 points. From the beginning of the 3rd qtr, Spurger just did not stay in the game that played in the first half. Severalof us commented that Spurger offense was very high and could not get WS to get away from their post. Spurger would not take an outside shot and would attempt to pass into the post to where it would get stolen. WS played very well and consistent. The point spread drifted up to 10 and then Spurger went into "force it" mode where WS took advantange of the turnovers. Spurger played a very odd game for them. They just did not look "together" and did not gel at all.

Hats off to WS, they played very well.
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Spurger is #5 in 1A-II and West Sabine was #22 in 1A-I, which is a higher classification so I wouldnt call this an upset.   Spurger is ranked high because of their run to the state tournament last year and then dropping down classifications.  There are other teams in the region though I would say deserve to be ranked ahead of them based on their early season resume, like Dodd City and Laneville.  Rankings dont many very much especially this early in the season, but I would expect to see Spurger to drop a little over the next couple weeks.  Their region is very tough and will be hard to win (and their district too) so it should be pretty interesting to see how it plays out.

Nov 22


Big Sandy 51, Corrigan Camden 50
Bland 33, Whitewright 25
Blooming Grove 42, Riesel 35
Broaddus 64, Garrison 41
Brownsboro 50 Rains 25
Bullard 55, Winnsboro 53
Campbell 58, Sulphur Bluff 33
Carlisle 37, Douglass 25
Centerville 71, Latexo 27
Daingerfield 78, Clarksville 58
Dodd City 65, Bells 58
Gilmer 43, Union Grove 38
Goodrich 60, Coldspring 27
Greenville 38, Bonham 33
Groveton 43, San Augustine 42
John Tyler 63, Mount Vernon 57
Kaufman 60, Scurry Rosser 37
Kemp 45, Eustace 34
Lindale 60, Sulphur Springs 34
Lone Oak 50, Caddo Mills 49
Mabank 63, Hubbard 49
Madisonville 52, Bryan 50
Magnolia AR 64, Pleasant Grove 41
Marshall 61, Carthage 47
Mildred 34, Rice 31
Neches 69, Diboll 33
New Caney 72, Splendora 57
North Forney 40, Grand Saline 32
Ore City 47, Gladewater 34
Pine Tree 58, Texas High 33
Quinlan Ford 53, Bonham 23
Sabine 43, Kilgore 29
Saltillo 64, Chapel Hill 18
Slocum 45, Cayuga 35
Tenaha 37, Chireno 31
Trenton 41, Ector 33
White Oak 67, Hawkins 34
Willis 67, Cleveland 42
Zavalla 56, Wells 31


Nov 23

Apple Springs 41, Colmesneil 20
Bells 40, Bonham 28
Brownsboro 44 Canton 23
Cayuga 45, Oakwood 27
Centerville 60, Kennard 14
Central Heights 58, Slocum 40
Daingerfield 72, Pleasant Grove 46
Edgewood 50, Kemp 32
Honey Grove 52, Cumby 50
Hubbard 50, Rice 26
Jefferson 60, Atlanta 51
Linden Kildare 46, Mcleod 19
Livingston 48, Huntington 32
Lone Oak 48, Scurry Rosser 38
Lovelady 43, Elkhart 28
Mart 58, Buffalo 48
Martinsville 38, Douglass 35
Mildred 33, Palmer 31
Nacogdoches 51, Center 19
Neches 59, Westwood 36
New Caney 60, Huffman 32
Prairiland 53, Como Pickton 13
New Summerfield 48, West Rusk 36
Spring Hill 57, Diboll 46
Waskom 64, Karnack 42
Woden 52, Grapeland 42
Zavalla 64, Corrigan Camden 42

Saturday scores


Wells Tournament

3rd place game

Broaddus 47
Wells 46

Consolation

Bland 47
Blue Ridge 28


Trenton Tournament

3rd place game

Trenton 25
Ector 21


Slocum Tournament  

Rusk 53, Trinity 36

Malakoff 42, Cushing 41  - Consolation final

Frankston 57, Kennard 30 - 3rd place

Woden 45, Slocum 39 - Championship game


Saltillo Tournament

Saltillo 62, Rivercrest 32 - Championship game

North Hopkins 54, Como Pickton 47 - 3rd place

Avery 40, Sulphur Bluff 28 - Consolation

Friday scores

Slocum Tournament

Winners bracket

Slocum 72, Leggett 34

Woden 37, Frankston 27

Slocum 63, Frankston 31

Losers bracket

Trinity 46, Laneville 38

Cushing def SFA (forfeit)

Rusk 52, Leggett 46

Malakoff 56, Trinity 38

Slocum and Woden will play for championship, Frankston and Kennard will play for 3rd, and Cushing and Malakoff will play for consolation tomorrow.


Wells Tournament

Losers bracket

Mt Enterprise 45
Apple Springs 38

Alto 41
Joaquin 24

Winners bracket

Lapoynor 60
Broaddus 46

Brookeland 37
Wells 32


Campbell Tournament

Cooper 30
Trenton 28

Campbell 40
Ector 27


New Summerfield Tournament

Chireno 53
Elkhart 35

New Summerfield 54
Trinidad 26


Saltillo Tournament

Sulphur Bluff 44, C.H.E.S.S. 29

Avery 38, Roxton 22

Rivercrest 53, North Hopkins 29

Saltillo 60, Como-Pickton 28

Saltillo vs Rivercrest in championship
North Hopkins vs Como Pickton for 3rd
Sulphur Bluff vs Avery for consolation

Slocum Tournament

Leggett 38, Trinity 37

Slocum 67, Laneville 30

Kennard 41, Malakoff 38

Woden 42, Cushing 31

Rusk 49, Groveton 40

Frankston 47, SFA 23

Cushing 41, Groveton 37


Wells Tournament

Broaddus 67, Mt Enterprise 37

Lapoynor 71, Apple Springs 40

Brookeland 37, Alto 34

Wells def Joaquin


Campbell Tournament

Trenton 46, Detroit 21

Campbell def Prairiland JV

Cooper def Bland

Ector 33, Blue Ridge 30


Saltillo Tournament

Como Pickton 46, Sulphur Bluff 35

Rivercrest 59, Avery 36

North Hopkins 51, Roxton 24

Saltillo 71, CHESS 21

Slocum Tournament
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Wells Tournament
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New Summerfield Tournament
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Campbell Tournament
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Saltillo Tournament
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[quote name="Dr.Baden" post="911353" timestamp="1290007623"]
do you have any of the girls tournaments to post
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Yes, I believe I have the Slocum, Wells, New Summerfield, Campbell and Saltillo girls brackets that I will post for you.  There is no east Texas forum on here so I guess I'll post it on this forum.

I'll update this thread if I find anymore

A&M Consolidated 72, Lufkin 42
Beckville 51, West Rusk 21
Big Sandy 66, Alpha Omega 10
Blooming Grove 50, Cross Roads 38
Broaddus 63, Laneville 44
Buffalo 70, Elkhart 17
Bullard 62, Lindale 51
Campbell 52, Dodd City 42
Caney Creek 49, Coldspring 28
Carthage 37, Tenaha 28
Central Heights 48, Elysian Fields 44
Chireno 61, Timpson 38
Cushing 44, Apple Springs 34
Daingerfield 96, Gladewater 20
Dawson 42, Frost 35
Desoto 77, Red Oak 35
Diboll 59, Silsbee 23
Ector 34, Bells 28
Edgewood 48, Rains 42
Evadale 51, Colmesneil 22
Farmersville 55, Quinlan Ford 54
Ferris 46, Palmer 37
Gateway Charter 38, Pittsburg 23
Gilmer 86, Atlanta 62
Grand Saline 45, Eustace 23
Greenville 49, Bonham 30
Groveton 40, Kennard 35
Harleton 61, Big Sandy 35
Hawkins 37, Lone Oak 32
Honey Grove 68, Community 27
Hudson 59, Whitehouse 35
John Tyler 65, Palestine 50
Kemp 65, Scurry Rosser 24
Linden Kildare 47, Avinger 28
Lovelady 50, Pollok Central 37
Marshall 55, Texas High 48
Melissa 41, Decatur 40
Mexia 42, Connally 32
Mount Vernon 67, Cooper 37
Nacogdoches 45, Huntington 42
Neches 59, Lapoynor 37
New Caney 56, Cleveland 41
North Hopkins 47, Roxton 32
North Lamar 42, Sulphur Springs 33
Ore City 57, Union Hill 27
Pine Tree 52, Harmony 32
Princeton 59, Leonard 41
Royse City 60, Cleburne 44
S & S 55, Blue Ridge 40
Sabine 51, New Diana 41
Saltillo 75, Detroit 19
Sam Rayburn 57, Cumby 41
Savoy 53, Sulphur Bluff 19
Slocum 74, Mt Enterprise 50
Splendora 64, Leggett 40
Spring Hill 41, Mt Pleasant 32
Sunnyvale 51, Caddo Mills 25
Tatum 65, Henderson 48
Teague 46, Moody 26
Terrell 50, Paris 45
Tyler Grace Community 33, Van 32
Tyler Lee 55, Hallsville 35
Union Grove 46, Troup 42
Van Alstyne 48, Pottsboro 42
Wells 57, Gary 28
Westwood 46, Trinity 30
Wortham 40, Coolidge 32
White Oak 46, All Saints 34
Whitewright 30, Anna 25
Winnsboro 80, Liberty Eylau 57
Winona 54, New Summerfield 45
Zavalla 81, Centerville 35

If you want to know who all is covered in these rankings, go here: http://eastexsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=4248.0

You can post your comments here or go to the link and comment: http://eastexsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5266.0

By the way, Silsbee, HJ, Kountze arent covered by Eastexsports(but Spurger is) so I'll save you the post of asking why they arent on the list.

1A-II

1. Dodd City
2. Spurger
3. Laneville
4. Miller Grove
5. Martinsville
6. Bloomburg
7. Leggett
8. Saltillo
9. Goodrich
10. Douglass/Ector

1A-I

1. Clarksville
2. Cayuga
3. Martins Mill
4. Grapeland
5. Slocum
6. Tenaha
7. Kerens
8. Bland
9. West Sabine
10. Hubbard/Avery

2A

1. Crockett
2. New Waverly
3. Melissa
4. Daingerfield
5. Tatum
6. Central Heights
7. White Oak
8. Arp
9. Sunnyvale
10. MP Chapel Hill

3A

1. Cleveland
2. Lindale
3. Lovejoy
4. Liberty-Eylau
5. Mexia
6. La Vega
7. Groesbeck
8. Athens
9. Madisonville
10. Center

4A/5A
Will post later in season

Always check here on game nights.  I will usually have some scores from around southeast Texas like 22-3A, 18-3A or 1A.


http://eastexsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5241.0

Anna 52, Denison 35

Apple Springs 49, Spurger 25

Arlington Sam Houston 56, Cleburne 39

Avinger 39, Ore City 35

Brownsboro 52 Wills Point 25

Bryan 56 Wells 42

Buna 69, Dallardsville Big Sandy 54

Carthage 78, Kilgore 52

Celina 86, Farmersville 39

Central Heights 54, Tenaha 20

Chester 43, Legacy Christian Academy 28

Clear Lake 55 , Lufkin 46

Conroe Oak Ridge 68, Caney Creek 24

Diboll 76, Shepherd 27

Duncanville 50, Desoto 44

Ferris 29, Corsicana 28

Forney 48, Mabank 37

Garrison 42, Trinity 31

Groveton 36, Centerville 26

Harleton 67, Pewitt 36

Henderson 64, Mineola 27

High Island 30, Brookeland 25

Huffman 47, Anahuac 38

Hughes Springs 58, Simms Bowie 38

Huntington 45, Silsbee 41

Huntsville 64, A&M Consolidated 61

Kerens 59, All Saints 19

Lewisville 63, Mesquite 56

Liberty Eylau 87, Dekalb 23

Lovelady 75 Leggett 27

Lovejoy 53, Sanger 41

Melissa 44, Howe 30

Mexia 76, Mart 47

Mildred 55, Scurry Rosser 47

Montgomery 72, Splendora 32

Mount Vernon 69, Sulphur Springs 38

Muenster 46, Honey Grove 38

Mumford 55, Bremond 27

Neches 64, Central 15

New Diana 63, Waskom 31

New Summerfield 41, Beckville 38

North Mesquite 38, Ennis 30

Quinlan Ford 47, Van Alstyne 27

Rains 47, Community 46

Rice 44, Dallas Life 22

Royse City 53, Richardson Pearce 44

Sherman 65, Bonham 13

Slocum 56, Kennard 36

Tatum 70, Queen City 50

Tomball 43, Magnolia 38

West Brook 59, Cleveland 15

Willis 43, Conroe 39

Winnsboro 82, John Tyler 65

Woden 49, Hudson 45

Wortham 45, Trinidad 8

http://eastexsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5238.0

Here a link to the poll I posted on eastexsports, go and vote for who you think is the best district race in east Texas.  I copied and pasted my post on the link below:

What is the best district race in east Texas?  There are several good ones here.  You got 2 top 5 teams in 1 district in New Waverly and Crockett.  New Waverly had another run at the state tournament and Crockett went a couple rounds in 3A.  You have maybe the best 2 teams in 1A-I in one district in Martins Mill and Cayuga who played for region 3 last season.  Miller Grove and Dodd City lost to the 2 regional finalists last year and return a lot of players.   Slocum and Grapeland split in non district action last season before being reunited in the same district again this year and both should be strong again. Martinsville drops down to 1A-II and should give Kennard a battle for 23-1A-II.  21-2A will be tough every time Arp, Frankston, and West Rusk play each other.  19-3A features a couple state ranked teams in Mexia and Groesbeck.  There are some districts I am not quite familiar with so there may be some districts i'm leaving out.  Tell me what district races you are looking forward to...

http://eastexsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5222.0

Go check it out, there are tons of schedules all over East Texas for you to see.  There are many districts on there of interest to SETX, like 24-1A-II, 24-1A, 22-2A, 18-3A, and 22-3A, and so many more.  If you have a schedule of a team that I dont have or see something that needs to be corrected, please send me a message on here or on Eastexsports.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="894605" timestamp="1288710335"]
If you are strictly speaking of our area teams, I see no one winning a state title.

Of all the teams in the state, these are my picks for state titles:


5A    Fort Bend Bush

4A    The Colony

3A   Lubbock Estacado

2A   Hallettsville

1A DI    Clarksville

1ADII    Paducah
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AAW, I dont know anything about Paducah, but I'm surprised you didnt pick Bronte to win 1A-II, since they moved down from 1A-I to 1A-II, returning their best players, and you watched them take Cayuga to the wire in the state championship game in the drum.  I like the Clarksville pick, but I also think Cayuga or Martins Mill could win that very tough region 3.

[quote name="ST413" post="871958" timestamp="1286773997"]
Thanks for the post.  I made the statement on the other site so I will make it here.  Their logic is hard to understand,  they have    H-J ranked higher than Silsbee, yet they have the Tigers picked as the district favorite?????
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To answer your question, I think the top 10 poll is voted on by all the coaches in the state while the district picks are only voted on by the district coaches.  Another example of this is 1A-II Leggett is ranked in the top 10 but only ranked 3rd in district, and the 1st and 2nd place teams arent even ranked in the top 10.

I just got the new Texpreps Magazine for this basketball season.  I posted the Top 10's for all classes and also all the district picks for east and southeast Texas.  In the link below is where it is all posted.  You can go there for all your east Texas basketball info.  Over the next month I'll be posting full schedules, and some point in the season will start 1A-5A rankings.  Also there will be scores and standings throughout the season.

http://eastexsports.com/forum/index.php?board=15.0

[quote name="PhatMack19" post="867788" timestamp="1286463656"]
A friend posted this on FB:


Where does Halladay rank among the great modern pitchers: Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Schilling, [b]Beckett[/b], Johnson, and Clemens?


Roy still has some years left to catch up with those guys numbers.  If he hadn't been hidden in Canada for all of those years, this argument may be a little different.
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I'm sorry, but Beckett doesnt belong on the list of guys you just mentioned.  Beckett just finished his 9th full season and has only racked up 112 wins and only has pitched 30 starts 3 times in his career.  Beckett is not reliable during the regular season, he's always hurt.  Beckett is hyped because he had a few excellent postseasons, but you have to do more than that in the regular season to be considered an all time great.  I would replace him with Roy Oswalt, who entered the league around the same time and is 150-83 and a career era thats almost a full run lower.  Since he's entered the league, he ranks top 5 in wins, era, winning %.  

To answer your question though, its always about longevity for the HOF, but Roy Halladay is definitely on a fast track to the Hall of Fame.  If he contributes to a Phillies World Series win, and can have about 3-4 more really good seasons, hes a lock for the HOF.

The Astros just lost 2 long time players that were cornerstones of their franchise.  I think both wouldve liked to finish their career in Houston but i also think both wanted a shot at one more title and i cant fault them for it.  Both seemed to express interest in possibly coming back to Houston before they retire.  Berkman has always lived in Texas so i imagine he'll want to come back as soon as he can.  Oswalt is still 1 win away from the club record and i really think he wanted and wants to break it.  If i were voting on the poll, i may be on Oswalt over Berkman.  While Berkman has more ties to the club with his hometown, he plays a position that has been filled by Brett Wallace while Oswalt plays a position that has 5 spots in a rotation.  I think Oswalt has a little more incentive to come back with the club record in wins still in reach.  What do you think though?

I know this was a couple nights ago, but did anyone see Carlos Gonzalez's cycle against the Cubs?  He hit a walkoff home run on the first pitch to the upper deck in the bottom of the 9th to complete the cycle.  I was watching it live on WGN and jumped out of my seat when it happened  (Carlos Gonzalez is on 2 of my fantasy teams, lol).  I just heard though that he is the first lefty in MLB HISTORY to get all 4 hits for the cycle off lefty pitchers.  This guy probably shouldve been an all star and is a superstar in the making.  Just wondering if anyone noticed this over the weekend.

I got to see the 9th inning of Braden, Halladay, and Jimenez this year, and this game seemed to have all the makings of a perfect game/no hitter with the great catch in the 9th by Austin Jackson.  You figure on a close call, like Anibal Sanchez's no hitter on the final play of game a few years back, they would give him the benefit of the doubt.  He just blew it.  I wonder now with all this recent umpire controversy, if the talk of instant replay will come back.  With today's technology, it's hard to argue against it now...