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[quote name="utfan06" post="1220318" timestamp="1336653827"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=99728.msg1219840#msg1219840 date=1336515439] [quote author=utfan06 link=topic=99728.msg1218978#msg1218978 date=1336255475] I know who has more rings.. and that's what matters.. [/quote] Yes you do have more rings playing Deweyville, Warren, and Hardin. Are those 2A rings made out candy or plastic? [/quote] Take a look at the year we won 3A:-)  when our only losses were to Memorial and Houston Milby... and Nash is right we don't play those teams in Austin ... also didn't we beat the last state tournament team y'all had? Actually we beat y'all twice that year:-) [/quote] Not many teams in the state that can look down upon the accomplishments of Kountze in basketball.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1220576" timestamp="1336684097"] [quote author=lamar73! link=topic=99849.msg1220569#msg1220569 date=1336682798]   Numbers (percentages) don't lie, look them up them for yourself and then answer your own question. [/quote] Actually they can be very misleading...BISD has been a Recognized District....So, again...WHY HJISD? [/quote] I have a couple of questions for you, Dicky. 1.  Are you saying that he should have gone to Westbrook or Ozen because that is what YOU think is right? 2.  If you are so troubled about this, are you ready to go on this  board and lecture the Dove about his two kids transferring to Ozen?  My guess is that their drive to school is longer than Johnsons. In either case, it looks pretty silly to try to justify multiple transfers every year at one school by comparing them to one in seven years at another.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1220514" timestamp="1336677474"] Neither does Yates...But they could say you guys stole a kid from Central, although that would not be the truth either. He just showed up...right? [/quote] So Mr. Wise does not coach AAU ball?  I beg to differ.  FYI- The Central kid NEVER had a SINGLE word of conversation with anyone from the HJ staff prior to attending the school.  Furthermore, you are trying in vain to make a case out of 1 kid over a 6 or 7 year period vs substantial numbers of kids during the same time frame.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1220502" timestamp="1336676502"] Larger city nash... ::) ::)...you know better than that...If HJ were in a larger place, the numbers would be very similar. [/quote] No they would not.  HJ does not actively recruit transfers via AAU coaching

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[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1220437" timestamp="1336670566"] You get my point though....The better your program is, the more likely a kid will just show up at your school.  Be honest with yourselves...Its not just at Yates. [/quote] Believe what you wish, Dickie.  If the average "show up" rate at a group of schools is, as an example, 5 and one particular school continually maintains a "show up" rate of three or four times that, then something is likely "unique" about that one.

[quote name="Team Game" post="1220425" timestamp="1336669319"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=99849.msg1220402#msg1220402 date=1336666125] So you are telling me that each and every kid (except the Johnson kid) was born, raised and reared in Sour Lake, Texas? Or even Nome, or China? And once again there is NOTHIING wrong if its not, I am just asking...You guys want to give Yates HS program a hard time for having kids that transfer there (without coercion), but if you guys look at this objectively, it happens in most places where there are good basketball programs. Its not accident that Silsbee got a kid from out of town..It speaks for their program, and its nothing wrong with that. [/quote] Wow - now you have to be living in the district at the time of birth????? That deserves a big - Come on man! [/quote] It's what you do when everything else has failed.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1220402" timestamp="1336666125"] So you are telling me that each and every kid (except the Johnson kid) was born, raised and reared in Sour Lake, Texas? Or even Nome, or China? And once again there is NOTHIING wrong if its not, I am just asking...You guys want to give Yates HS program a hard time for having kids that transfer there (without coercion), but if you guys look at this objectively, it happens in most places where there are good basketball programs. Its not accident that Silsbee got a kid from out of town..It speaks for their program, and its nothing wrong with that. [/quote] It happens in a lot of places.  The frequency and volume are what troubles many.  The Kimball incident was not coincidental and you won't convince a lot of people that these types of situations  don't take place at Yates as well.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1220403" timestamp="1336666154"] Card carrying republican, I bet! ;) [/quote] Sorry, Dickie but not many Repubs go the " I am a victim" route.  They believe in personal responsibility.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1220397" timestamp="1336665231"] To my knowledge I only know of one transfer to HJ (Johnson this past season) over the past several years. Don't know where anyone is getting this "multiple" transfers to HJ to play basketball. [/quote] Only in Dickies mind.  It's a liberal tactic.

Anybody want to bet on which political party this mom supports?

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1220368" timestamp="1336661448"] Why is there less of a "risk" in outlying areas....Don't answer that, because I already know the answer..and its certainly not always true...I am not sure about EVERY kid that has landed there, but I know of a few...Its not coincidental, by no means that they happen to be pretty decent ball players either....No crime in that..just what it is.. [/quote] Lets get honest, Dickie,  You dont know about ANY OTHER transfer because you ONLY know one that happened to be a good player.  In recent years, there have not been any but you arent willing to admit that on this board.  Therefore you DONT KNOW of a FEW, but rather ONE, and to suggest/imply the situation is similar to YATES is an absolute joke.  As for the risk, I was speaking of perceived risk and that perception lies in the eyes of each individual thus making it not possible for me to answer for them.

thank you- had read that in the paper last week and was trying to find it-  FACTS, Dickie, FACTS That "you would say" options?  Sorry, that is ONLY your opinion and there are thousands of opinions out there that are as valid or more valid than yours.  HJ gets kids OFTEN?  Name three over the last 6 years.  And you might as well face it- there is a public perception (regardless of its accuracy) that attending an outlying school has less risk of physical danger for a student.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1220272" timestamp="1336617290"] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=99849.msg1220268#msg1220268 date=1336616957] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=99849.msg1220262#msg1220262 date=1336615940] Who pushes the kids from other cities to HJ? ::) 8) [/quote] Nobody- and it is killing you [/quote] So they just show up to the great metropolis of Sour Lake for the sights and opportunity? ::) ::) [/quote] They?  I can only think of one in the last several years-so it is not a regular, every day happening as it is in other places.  Some people find the thought appealing that their child will get a good education and is not likely to have a knife pulled on them during school hours.  As for "the great metropolis of Sour Lake"- it was many years ago but I selected that area  SPECIFICALLY for the school system and living style for my family and I could have moved anywhere that I wanted.  Your mistake is in assuming that everyone has the same values as you do or that you know better than everyone else where everyone should want to live and for what reasons.

[quote name="king" post="1220030" timestamp="1336574899"] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=96957.msg1220026#msg1220026 date=1336574490] If you have seen any of the playoffs so far and listened to the commentators, it is pretty evident that Mr. Rondo is, without a doubt, one of the premier point guards in the league with numbers to support it. [/quote] do you think he is a point guard like drose and cp3 that can change a franchise? Would he still be up there if he didnt have stars around him? [/quote] He understands the game well enough that he would be valuable wherever he went.  At this point, he is the biggest star on his team.  Showed stats last night where you combined points, rebounds and assists and he was leading the playoffs with Kobe and LeBron close behind.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1220262" timestamp="1336615940"] Who pushes the kids from other cities to HJ? ::) 8) [/quote] Nobody- and it is killing you

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1220235" timestamp="1336606464"] Yes, Silsbee beat Kountze by a total of 84 points over the last 3 match ups! [/quote] Why didnt you just state that to begin with rather than using the ploy above?

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1220188" timestamp="1336593534"] The situation at Kimball was CLEARLY orchestrated..Kids that transfer to Yates are not set up by summer coaches...A lot like the way HJ gets their "move ins", right? [/quote] Nope- not right at all-  You can attempt to portray Yates as "clean as the wind driven snow" all you want-  Most everyone here knows what takes place and throwing an innuendo at HJ will not change the Yates situation one iota.  Hj hasnt gotten as many transfers in the last ten years as Yates gets in a semester and you can't change that either. 

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1220167" timestamp="1336590847"] Yes, I know the story and Keith Frazier moved to Kimball for athletic purposes...Had he sat out a season, playing JV, they could have done nothing about it, but he did not...So, tell me Nash...you mean to tell me that HJ does NOT get transfers? ::) [/quote] Every once in a while but they are not "orchestrated". 

Of course, this type of circumstance NEVER happens in Houston, right Dickie?

If you have seen any of the playoffs so far and listened to the commentators, it is pretty evident that Mr. Rondo is, without a doubt, one of the premier point guards in the league with numbers to support it.

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1219909" timestamp="1336528982"] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=99728.msg1219879#msg1219879 date=1336525446] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=99728.msg1219840#msg1219840 date=1336515439] [quote author=utfan06 link=topic=99728.msg1218978#msg1218978 date=1336255475] I know who has more rings.. and that's what matters.. [/quote] Your right! Point being that when you win a state title, you effectively have beaten every other team in the classification . Yes you do have more rings playing Deweyville, Warren, and Hardin. Are those 2A rings made out candy or plastic? [/quote] I dont think any of the teams you mentioned were opponents in Austin [/quote] [/quote]

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1219840" timestamp="1336515439"] [quote author=utfan06 link=topic=99728.msg1218978#msg1218978 date=1336255475] I know who has more rings.. and that's what matters.. [/quote] Yes you do have more rings playing Deweyville, Warren, and Hardin. Are those 2A rings made out candy or plastic? [/quote] I dont think any of the teams you mentioned were opponents in Austin

Looks like the Kountze folks won't take the bait.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1217426" timestamp="1336010297"] Hearing some rumbling that a certain 6'6" from Dayton may be looking for a new home in Beaumont, PLUS the other [s]6'7" ..[/s]..errrr I was corrected that he's really 6'8'. [/quote] Maybe they will become Panthers? 6'8" ?  Manute Bol and Shawn Bradley were both 7 footers Sam Bowie was (7 footer) was drafted ahead of Michael Jordan