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[quote name="liltex" post="1412301" timestamp="1370877704"] My pic-ems in order=Crosby-SC-KW Park/Dayt/BH battlin for the last 2 spots [/quote]secret nose guard is no secret. Jordan Treyhan played o-line last year as a sophmore. He is already bigger than Charles and will be an impact player on the dline. Right now he is probably about 260 and can crush a baseball but thats another story. One more thing liltex. Charles was a 3 year starter on dline not nose. Wright was the nose in 2010. Wright had the size for the position. Charles played it the next 2 years and while he was good he was undersized and out of position. IMO he would have been a better 3tech.

4 of daytons young ones at a ut invite camp today. They sure look good in black n burnt orange with mack brown. Kyle ran a 4.42 not bad for a junior.

[quote name="dustoff03" post="1411969" timestamp="1370647404"] I think your poll is wrong. 2010-lake travis 2011-lake travis 2012- denton guyer or cedar park, leaning more towads cedar park. [/quote]i think aledo beat lt in 2010 during their non district schedule and was the undefeated d2 state champ.

One more fact for coug14. LM played ns in 09 and got beat 44-34 i believe. That particular year lm didnt even make the playoffs in 4a. So your conclusion that ns would beat sc by 50 could be a little off.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1412065" timestamp="1370707972"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=111829.msg1412005#msg1412005 date=1370656816] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411926#msg1411926 date=1370636561] To think that Katy has more talent than North Shore is also stupid. Talent is one thing, buying into a program is completely another. Just because you're dedicated and operate as one doesn't mean you have a bunch of talent. Katy is good because they can their kids close to the ceiling while they're still in high school. You ask the UT recruiter who he's taking and it's going to be the kid from North Shore 9 out of 10 times strictly because he's more TALENTED, not because he bought into a program last year. North Shore doesn't highlight anybody, that's why you don't know who half their kids are until they sign with Alabama or UT. Besides Bobby Reid there hasn't been a feature player at North Shore since Tiki Hardeman. The backs split carries, the qb usually gets a scholarship as an "athlete" and they hardly throw to the receivers which are often D1 recruits. Katy is going to play mistake free and out execute you, that's discipline not talent. There's D1 recruits from North Shore who've barely started so how are they being highlighted? If anybody highlights players it's Katy. That's why you can't tell me the name of North Shore's backs but I can name you all of Katy's. They give it to them 25 times a game and they get a bunch of yards and accolades which is the definition of highlighting a player, see Dean, Young and Taylor. Most years the rb is the only player you can name off Katy's team. I guess Nick Saban and Mack Brown are idiots though since they take the kids from North Shore over Katy. Don't mistake being coachable or playing in a good system for having talent or upside because they're two completely different things as you can see every year on signing day. [/quote] Its like you don't even read what i type.  You just see me not giving a crap that NS has superior individual talent then Katy, and assume that i am trying to say that Katy and NS are equal on an individual athletic scale. My first contention with you, is that you are either ignorant or slow in regards to evaluating physical talent Ex. RB Donovan Young.  Just because he didn't dawn on the red and black uniforms doesn't mean he isn't ever bit as talented as Woods or Cornett.  In happen to know for a fact that every school in the country was in physical talks with Young, and it was other elements that prevented him from getting the actual offers.  Without hanging out dirty laundry, you need to understand that.  Young was every bit the back that NS had in the backfield if not more.  You want to claim that his success was a mere result of his offensive line.  When Young played the limited games he did for Humble (varsity) he was lights out....behind an Humble offensive line that was at best below average.    Just because they don't go to NS doesn't mean they aren't individually better than who you have.  period.  Young was a total package back, Woods and Cornett were not. Second contention is that you keep reverting to values that have nothing to do with the performance of team or individual stats on the HIGH SCHOOL gridiron.    You simply use a measurement that has proven to not be a reliable measurement of overall production from teams.    You want to use measurements that College coaches use to determine if a student is compatible with their system, to measure the value of a completely different entity.    Im sorry, but the facts are that D1 talent more then often doesn't contribute to Elite program status.    We are infatuated with the prospect of a kid getting recruited, as if it matters on this level.    Coaches are recruiting seeds for their program, to make them into trees.  They don't recruit final products.  A lot of your great high school football players will never be great college players.....its a different game.      In terms of High school talent, Katy is every bit as talented as NS.  I would take a Katy Senior player over a Senior NS player 15 out of 22 times.    Again no one is denying that NS has a lot of talent.  Im just saying that your measurement of what a HS player could contribute to another HS team is based on variables that have nothing to do with High School football.    This game, Texas HS football, is more like the real world..... Were determination guts, and the pursuit of victory mean far more in measuring talent then how big and fast you will be in college. [/quote]I don't care how many points of contention you have, you're mistaken in your assessments. I don't know what these personal issuses you speak of about D. Young but fact of the matter is he was a three star back and received three star offers. These issues had absolutely NOTHING to do with how he was rated. Rivals doesn't care about grades and "issues", they grade football players. Young was an unranked back period. Taylor and Dean both started at least two years and had well over 4000 career yards while DY started started one and had less than 3000 career yards behind the best line of them all. Your thoughts about him are exactly what they are, your thoughts, and please with this total package stuff. The other guys were 4 stars and Dean is 4th on the TCU depth chart. My thoughts echo the sentiment of that first Wednsday in February. Miss me with that "this is what Texas High School Football is really all about". Nobody is prouder or has boasted louder to more people about what high school football means down here in Texas. You sound like a mouth-breather saying stuff like "its a fact that D1 talent more than ofter doesn't contribute to elite program status". Other than Katy name me an elite program that doesn't have elite talent? Lake Travis maybe but they had an enrollment advantage and the Gatorade National Player of the Year, first round L when they play the kids with the same enrollment though. What it's all about is those kids over there in Katy have a head start on life compared to the majority of kids that play on a team like North Shore or Skyline or Westfield or Lamar. For most of these kids if they don't get a scholarship they will never see the inside of a college classroom, on the other hand while most may not graduate the majority of the kids at Katy will at least attend some sort of college some point. Heck yeah you would take the kid from Katy over NS if you were trying to project their tangent's in life. There's an exponential chance in a lot of cases. You take him though, I'll take the kids that didn't grow up with a garage and try to coach them up because I know they'll be the hungriest and that's exactly what you see with the NFL numbers. Trey Hopkins and Sedrick Flowers will be drafted and if my cousin can make a roster this year that's a for sure three more NS grads in the league. Everybody has talent at that level so it's all brutally hard work and the kids from the east side prove over and over they have what it takes to make it to the highest level. Their parents don't have jobs they want to do but their cousins play professional sports so that's what they aspire to do. Sadly for some though, if they don't get scholarship they never leave the area and their paths in life could often be muddled. That's the real life I speak of, the same kids several years later people will be complaining about being a drain on their social system. What you need to be worried about is why once Humble High lost half their enrollment and has to play 4a they suck if y'all are such a fertile recruiting ground? I reacall Humble and Kingwood being beast before they built KP and SC. Now your fertile recruiting ground has three schools that suck and one that couldn't make the playoffs. I guess nobody is playing as one besides SC?  [/quote]in an earlier post you said only 2 kids on katy could even play for ns. Now you say DY had the best o-line. Do you read what you type.

Dayton was 9-2 with their 2 losses against 2 of the top 10 teams in the state. For most teams that would be a great season. That was also with almost all our skill position players being sophmores. I just dont see a drop off this year. Not to mention dayton will have the best nose guard they have had in several years which is very important with the 3-4 they run.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1412044" timestamp="1370700082"] [quote author=liltex link=topic=112445.msg1412013#msg1412013 date=1370658395] Uh I was wondering who voted for Dayton.We will struggle to get a playoff spot.But give them very young Broncos a year.When this yrs soph get a lot of varsity exp they will roll their jr/sr years-wait for it ??? 8) [/quote] [/quote]

[quote name="liltex" post="1412013" timestamp="1370658395"] Uh I was wondering who voted for Dayton.We will struggle to get a playoff spot.But give them very young Broncos a year.When this yrs soph get a lot of varsity exp they will roll their jr/sr years-wait for it ??? 8) [/quote]not going to struggle for a playoff spot. Only 1 team that will be tough for dayton to overcome. Started 5 sophmores on offense last year and will have even more sophmore talent this year.

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411958" timestamp="1370642742"] Naw... MW was a more talented team than SC that year.  Conversely, Dayton wasn't more talented than Crosby. [/quote]scoreboard doesnt lie. Beating crosby is what dayton does.

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411950" timestamp="1370641148"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411948#msg1411948 date=1370640560] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1411940#msg1411940 date=1370638337] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411926#msg1411926 date=1370636561] To think that Katy has more talent than North Shore is also stupid. Talent is one thing, buying into a program is completely another. Just because you're dedicated and operate as one doesn't mean you have a bunch of talent. Katy is good because they can their kids close to the ceiling while they're still in high school. You ask the UT recruiter who he's taking and it's going to be the kid from North Shore 9 out of 10 times strictly because he's more TALENTED, not because he bought into a program last year. North Shore doesn't highlight anybody, that's why you don't know who half their kids are until they sign with Alabama or UT. Besides Bobby Reid there hasn't been a feature player at North Shore since Tiki Hardeman. The backs split carries, the qb usually gets a scholarship as an "athlete" and they hardly throw to the receivers which are often D1 [right][/right]recruits. Katy is going to play mistake free and out execute you, that's discipline not talent. There's D1 recruits from North Shore who've barely started so how are they being highlighted? If anybody highlights players it's Katy. That's why you can't tell me the name of North Shore's backs but I can name you all of Katy's. They give it to them 25 times a game and they get a bunch of yards and accolades which is the definition of highlighting a player, see Dean, Young and Taylor. Most years the rb is the only player you can name off Katy's team. I guess Nick Saban and Mack Brown are idiots though since they take the kids from North Shore over Katy. Don't mistake being coachable or playing in a good system for having talent or upside because they're two completely different things as you can see every year on signing day. [/quote]man your funny. I bet i used to ball on you at greenwood park. [/quote]I have no idea what you're talking about and why am I funny? We used to play on Wade in McNair and MacArthur parks. I doubt you could ever beat me at anything Bronco. I'm talking anything athletic at all, even ping pong and golf. I'm thirty years old and still catching alley oops and getting 20 a night in our work league which is actually pretty competitive and full of ex college hoopsters. Your mouth is going to write a check your a*& can't cash. You can kill me on Crosby and Dayton all day but this really ain't what you want. I'll make sure my little Cougar14 drops the hammer on Dayton extra hard next year just for you. [/quote] Speaking of Crosby vs Dayton ...how'd Crosby lose to Dayton last year?  I'm still amazed those guys got 9 wins.  Crosby seemed like the better of the two teams talent-wise.  Did this come down to coaching? [/quote]i thought the same thing when dayton pounded mw right after they handed sc an arse whipping.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1411948" timestamp="1370640560"] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1411940#msg1411940 date=1370638337] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411926#msg1411926 date=1370636561] To think that Katy has more talent than North Shore is also stupid. Talent is one thing, buying into a program is completely another. Just because you're dedicated and operate as one doesn't mean you have a bunch of talent. Katy is good because they can their kids close to the ceiling while they're still in high school. You ask the UT recruiter who he's taking and it's going to be the kid from North Shore 9 out of 10 times strictly because he's more TALENTED, not because he bought into a program last year. North Shore doesn't highlight anybody, that's why you don't know who half their kids are until they sign with Alabama or UT. Besides Bobby Reid there hasn't been a feature player at North Shore since Tiki Hardeman. The backs split carries, the qb usually gets a scholarship as an "athlete" and they hardly throw to the receivers which are often D1 [right][/right]recruits. Katy is going to play mistake free and out execute you, that's discipline not talent. There's D1 recruits from North Shore who've barely started so how are they being highlighted? If anybody highlights players it's Katy. That's why you can't tell me the name of North Shore's backs but I can name you all of Katy's. They give it to them 25 times a game and they get a bunch of yards and accolades which is the definition of highlighting a player, see Dean, Young and Taylor. Most years the rb is the only player you can name off Katy's team. I guess Nick Saban and Mack Brown are idiots though since they take the kids from North Shore over Katy. Don't mistake being coachable or playing in a good system for having talent or upside because they're two completely different things as you can see every year on signing day. [/quote]man your funny. I bet i used to ball on you at greenwood park. [/quote]I have no idea what you're talking about and why am I funny? We used to play on Wade in McNair and MacArthur parks. I doubt you could ever beat me at anything Bronco. I'm talking anything athletic at all, even ping pong and golf. I'm thirty years old and still catching alley oops and getting 20 a night in our work league which is actually pretty competitive and full of ex college hoopsters. Your mouth is going to write a check your a*& can't cash. You can kill me on Crosby and Dayton all day but this really ain't what you want. I'll make sure my little Cougar14 drops the hammer on Dayton extra hard next year just for you. [/quote]so your saying you have to be athletic to play ping pong and golf. Also you play in a highly competetive work bb league. Wow. Im impressed. Also i dont want your little coug14 dropping anything on me. I actually call mine big Bronco pride but im sure little coug14 suites yours just fine.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1411926" timestamp="1370636561"] To think that Katy has more talent than North Shore is also stupid. Talent is one thing, buying into a program is completely another. Just because you're dedicated and operate as one doesn't mean you have a bunch of talent. Katy is good because they can their kids close to the ceiling while they're still in high school. You ask the UT recruiter who he's taking and it's going to be the kid from North Shore 9 out of 10 times strictly because he's more TALENTED, not because he bought into a program last year. North Shore doesn't highlight anybody, that's why you don't know who half their kids are until they sign with Alabama or UT. Besides Bobby Reid there hasn't been a feature player at North Shore since Tiki Hardeman. The backs split carries, the qb usually gets a scholarship as an "athlete" and they hardly throw to the receivers which are often D1 [right][/right]recruits. Katy is going to play mistake free and out execute you, that's discipline not talent. There's D1 recruits from North Shore who've barely started so how are they being highlighted? If anybody highlights players it's Katy. That's why you can't tell me the name of North Shore's backs but I can name you all of Katy's. They give it to them 25 times a game and they get a bunch of yards and accolades which is the definition of highlighting a player, see Dean, Young and Taylor. Most years the rb is the only player you can name off Katy's team. I guess Nick Saban and Mack Brown are idiots though since they take the kids from North Shore over Katy. Don't mistake being coachable or playing in a good system for having talent or upside because they're two completely different things as you can see every year on signing day. [/quote]man your funny. I bet i used to ball on you at greenwood park.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1411839" timestamp="1370623833"] No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL. [Hidden Content] [/quote]theres actually a fairly descent player not on that list.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1411760" timestamp="1370617851"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=111829.msg1411732#msg1411732 date=1370615051] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411698#msg1411698 date=1370608800] 398 I would even go as far as to say other than Aaron Sharp there's not a player in Humble ISD that could start for North Shore. Dakota Allen probably could too if he switched positions due to the fact Whitley is already commited to  Alabama. [/quote] LOL! Oh yes there is.  Youre going to sit here and tell me that a school district that has put numerous kids in to D1 schools and d2 colleges every year doesn't have anyone that could start for North shore?    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You must not be familiar with the level of athlete that this school district produces.  Urban Myer once called it the most fertile recruiting ground in Texas.  Don't mistaken having a Texas Legendary coach like David Aymond fool you into thinking that the talent at NS is unmatched.  their are very few areas in the state that have produced as much talent as ours. [/quote]Urban Meyer must have never been to North Shore. All the prospect in Humble ISD over about the last decade vs a single high school Humble ISD - [Hidden Content] North Shore - [Hidden Content] They've had more prospect than your entire district and better ones too. You need more than this? North Shore doesn't have twice the enrollment either, their school is just in a different place if you know what I'm saying. Bronco, I'm not knocking your son's friend but he's probably not good enough to play at NS which is the reason he doesn't like the coaching either. [/quote]he is actually a starting safety. Why would you make comments about kids you dont even know. It makes you sound ignorant which i dont think you are.

One thing ned leaves out about the pc win is that pc lost their qb the week before. He also happened to be a d1 caliber qb. I believe pc had to play their rb at qb.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1411703" timestamp="1370609631"] Delusional about what part Bronco? I know you may think because Katy wins titles and often beats North Shore that the level of athlete may be similar but I'm here to tell you they're not in the same stratosphere  as these boys on the east side. Year in and year out North Shore and Dallas Skyline are the most talented teams in the state bar none. Since 1998 North Shore has had more d1 recruits than any other school in the state of Texas. If Gary Joseph coached over here NS would have have more titles than Katy does hands down. [/quote]im not saying katy has more d1 athletes as ns or skyline. Then again katy has about half the enrollment of the 2 schools you mentioned. Im saying your statement that only 2 kids from katy could play at ns last year. My dad is a ns grad and ihave several friends sons who play and start at ns. So im not hating on ns or their talent i just think your statement was dilusional.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1411692" timestamp="1370608136"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=111829.msg1411663#msg1411663 date=1370575915] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411643#msg1411643 date=1370572430] [quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=111829.msg1411619#msg1411619 date=1370567036] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411618#msg1411618 date=1370566716] 2008. Donovonn Young. [/quote] So thats why you so envious of Katy, wasnt he at Humble before he transferred? Makes sense now.  ::) [/quote]Donovan Young wouldn't have played at North Shore. They had Tracy Woods and Tim Cornett who went to Miami(OH) and UNLV. Cornett was the backup at North Shore and started as a true freshman at UNLV. [/quote] Yes he would of.  D. Young could of started for what ever school he wanted to.  He was a freak of nature.  When he showed up at Humble as a freshman he was 5'11 190 lbs.  When he left katy he was 6'0 215lbs and ran 4.6.    That kid could ball. [/quote]What??? 6' 215 and 4.6. There's 50 kids like that walking down Wallisville right now.Cornett was 6' 190 and 4.4 and was the backup. T.Woods was the 200+ pound banger so no, Young wouldn't have gotten on the field much at all. We're talking about a kid who's second best offer was North Texas after rushing for 2000 yards. I guess you think Aundre Dean could play too. Adam Taylor is another back who won't do much in college. Don't think because these guys put up a bunch of yards behind offensive lines where they don't get touched until they're six yards down the field that they're big time backs. There's not a player on Katy's roster who could've started at North Shore this year besides Matt Dimon and a big guard they had. [/quote]man your a little dilusional.

[quote name="Razor" post="1411410" timestamp="1370535904"] I hate to ask a stupid question, but how many playoff games has the mighty SC won since 2010? [/quote]you can count them with one finger.

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411334" timestamp="1370527594"] At the end of the day ...a 3 year old Varsity program is relevant in a very dominant region.  Who would have thunk such a young program would go into 19-4A and take over. A 3rd district championship in the making in just 4 years?  Every team in the district got a [size=36pt]L[/size] after meeting SC.  Crazy! [/quote]guess you never heard of manvel.

I heard Thames is going to blinn. Can anybody tell me why . He was probably the best hitter on bh and a really good pitcher. I know other kids are getting d1 looks and was just wondering why he wasnt. Also maybe he has been getting other offers i havent heard of. At any rate he is a heck of a player who deserves the mvp he received.

Guess tomball is the real deal. Hope they take it all.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1409372" timestamp="1369934597"] [quote author=DChatman2008 link=topic=111829.msg1409319#msg1409319 date=1369928574] Deunte Chatman ,running back for Summer Creek,class of 2015 ran the ball 3 times for 120 yards in Summer Creek's spring game.Today,I timed his 40 at 4.49 and he is 6'1 210lbs and bench-presses close to 400 pounds.You can look him up on youtube.com ,too.This weekend ,he will camp at Baylor on Saturday and Texas A&M on Sunday and at UT camp next Sunday.I think it is time for him to start receiving some offers.He has a 3.9 GPA and just took his ACT and SAT tests [/quote] He did a good job in Spring game at RB! I just feel he's better at LB, he's a big kid but need to work his speed for that RB position. Our fastest RB is playing WR, and that's AJ Jeffrey. I still believe Ford will put him in back field before its all said and done..... [/quote]heck if the kid ran a sub 4.5 speed is not an issue. How many rbs ran sub 4.5 at nfl combine. Just looked i think 4 rbs ran sub 4.5 times at the nfl combine. So if this kid runs a legit 4 5 im sure he is fast enough to play rb in high school.

Was this the first time bh was shut out this season. I know they only had a few losses but wasnt sure of the scores.

On the bh foster thread it said a 1 game series. Glad its going 3.

From what i have heard this is a 1 game series. I havent seen either team play so i was wondering who benefits the most from a 1 game series.