rip2506

If so I want to nominate-  Natalie Hagar!

[quote name="Frogger09" post="789322" timestamp="1271114584"] [quote author=rip2506 link=topic=68499.msg789307#msg789307 date=1271109079] Dude, does any of you know that ZP your Utility Player was a 1st Team All Stater as a forward in that same tough TAPPS Div 1 as Yasmine and Madeline. again go to a USYSNC game and see for yourselves. It's a different story when you put elite players on both sides of the field. I'll give my girl Chloe the nod since ZP is not in the race. 50 goals are 50 goals Wow the results startled me.. Stowey as we call her did score 2 goals to Chloe's 1 on Sunday against Eclipse white. Good Job Kaitlyn... Oh it's on now little shark tooth. I know your going to go off next Sunday!!!!!! ;D [/quote] Didn't Chloe do the dirty work to get the ball in position to assist BOTH of "stowey's" goals though? And also scoring one of her own? In fact, one of her goals was from a strong shot by Chloe that the keeper couldn't catch cleanly.. resulting in Kaitlyn tapping it in off the deflection. The other, Chloe beat two defenders and instead of taking the shot she passed it inside to Kaitlyn for the tap in. I'm not taking any credit away from Kaitlyn, it was a great job on her part for being in the right place at the right time. Just wanted to state the facts! [/quote] Chloe is that you? I voted for you as Forward of the Year did you not get the memo! Yes you were correct that you did the dirty work, and had the power shot deflect off of the goalie. If not Chloe than who is this because your sure know all the details. I am laughing hard right now.  But the facts remain Stowey 2- Chloe 1

[quote name="Newbie" post="789313" timestamp="1271112061"] Fees for the big clubs are usually based on what the local market can stand.  Dallas Texans took over Austin United, Aggieland, and Pursuit.  Sting took over West Texas Heat, and some East Texas team that I can't remember.  I googled fees for the Aggieland division and they're comparable to what Spindletop has on their website, if that's current.  For the premier level player, you have the opportunity to guest play with the national league teams if you're that good, Disney cup, etc. I can only see this as being a good thing for D1 teams though.  One team per age level.  Anything more than that for this area would be watered down. [/quote] Good Stuff Newbie.  I googled topdrawersoccer.com.... And your Dallas Texans (Hussan and co.) had more players nation wide than any other in Texas and probably more per capita nation wide. I'll I have to check that last stat, but it felt good saying it.  Bottom line Dallas Texan players Kick Butt! When you google something like top drawer and Texas A&M player profile... It really put things in perspective about playing for a top 100 NCAA team. Heck SMU women's incoming 2010's were some very stout players. I heard it from two trainers from two different clubs that forget about A&M unless you are the best player in the state... and then they followed with but maybe you could make SMU..... so therefore the google search and the rude awakening. 2 were in the top 100 in the nation and one forgo playing highschool to go to the IMG academy in Fla... playing college ball is no joke folks. You cannot be a south east texas high school stand out and think you have made it. It takes  more work and dedication to the game than that. ps We play DT Aggieland in two weeks in National Cup.  We will see then what they are working with.  Actually I saw a 94 Dallas Texan (B) team take on the AHFC top 94 team at the Spring Classic and they (DT) was too much for them.... Remember this was the 94 B team... Good thing they did not see the A team.

[quote name="Newbie" post="789316" timestamp="1271112307"] The results just prove there are more Lumberton supporters on this forum than any other team. No contest. [/quote] that cracked me up...... I am still laughing. That's cool, if they out man us then they have the right to win the contest. I am still laughing!!!!!

there might be a little smoke to this topic, i am hearing. Let's hope so. :o

Dude, does any of you know that ZP your Utility Player was a 1st Team All Stater as a forward in that same tough TAPPS Div 1 as Yasmine and Madeline. again go to a USYSNC game and see for yourselves. It's a different story when you put elite players on both sides of the field. I'll give my girl Chloe the nod since ZP is not in the race. 50 goals are 50 goals

Y'all got this one right. Madeline is a 2nd team All Stater in a very tough TAPPS Div 1 Ursaline and Fort Worth Nolan would mop up every team in the Golden Triangle on any level including our best select team.

I will have to get Kaitlyn Stowe to verify Molly is a better mid than Yasi. If she says it's true than I believe her. She plays with both. Yasi is a 2nd team All-Stater in a very tough TAPPS DIV1. And she would be considered by most to be the best player on SSSC93 which Madeline,Stowe and Chiasson play for.

You people crack me up. Come out to a game with elite players on both sides of the field USYSNC and then see where the chips fall. It's Bailey Fontenot hands down, with Bianca Garza a close 2nd.

;D bump. last round for rip, before I let this thread rest in peace.... Holler at me if ya'll want to try. I did want to touch on something Shoes brought up earlier.  Big Applause and Kudos to the high school coaches that are promoting their players to play year round club ball. It did not seem like this was permissable in the past, I even heard of coaches forbidding their players to play club while they were in season. It is the Div 1, S2, D2 competition that has made these players what they are. Let them continue to play and improve and see what kind of HS program you will have. GOOD JOB LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL COACHES!!!!!

[quote name="the iceman" post="787511" timestamp="1270695357"] If we unify the best talent from this area, girls and/or boys; we can WIN BIG against the fragmented Houston teams.  UNIFICATION is the key. [/quote] Right ON! Iceman I love your thinking.

[quote name="82Champs" post="787413" timestamp="1270676417"] The local association (SYSA) which is made up of all the local clubs (BYSC, Spindletop Select, Hardin, Orange, Gulf Coast, and Seabreeze) will be having association wide tryouts for the first time ever.  All the kids in the area that want to play competitive soccer will be trying out together at the same time.  Teams will be formed based on talent and preferred level of play (D1, Super 2, D2).  This is a step in the right direction to get the best talent in the area playing on one team to compete in Houston.  Right now, the two most successful teams in the area, have most (not all) the talent in their age groups, the Spindletop Select 93 Girls & Spindletop Select 96 Girls.  They are both upper level Div 1 teams. [/quote] 82 Champ this is music to my ears. I have to politely disagree with Stori however about looking and not finding greener pastures. My daughter has competed in only 2 showcase tournaments at the premier level in the past 2 months and she has had more serious contacts than in the past few years combined. The pasture is greener but the work that it takes to get there(driving to and fro to Houston to practice ) is what I would like to change for the future generations, In my daughters case I believe it is too late. Being on the 93 team (as a parent and assistant to Mike) since it's inception I believe I can speak for Mike on why this team has achieved the level of success that it has achieved and sustained for so many years. And the 96 team used it as a model and followed suit. First Mike started scouting for talent when they were 6 and 7yrs old. I'll never forget our first road trip was to the outskirts of Austin and they were just 7yrs old and playing in a 3v3 tournament. Then he got organized with Jorge and began special training at a set time, usually Sunday for an hour or so. Then he began taking them to Austin, Houston and Dallas to compete against the best competition. U11 they qualified for Div1 out the box. 92 and 93 have some special kids, I donot know why but even the ODP trainers said there was something special  about the 92 group... must have been what the parents were drinking.... So this created and even better competitive base. Many parents that had older children that had played said wait til U15-U16 the wheels are going to fall off... They always do here in Beaumont.... The great thing about it, because of the success....3 Pres Cup State titles and 2 back to back regional appearances.... girls that really got serious about their soccer and wanted to play beyond high school found the team (Chloe, Stowe, Natalie Hagar (2 tours of duty) Haley Shipman,Bianca Garza and others) gave the team the boost it needed to continue on. For the first time in it's history there were so many girls at tryouts, they formed two teams hince the U18 team which the majority are 93,94 and 95 birthdays. The team has girls from LC-M, Westbrook,Jasper, Silsbee,Kelly, PN-G, Nederland, Hardin Jefferson and Lumberton. All serious girls that what to compete and win. So there it is a unified team, girls from every rec club in the area playing under one umbrella. It works, they just have to start earlier and have the total support of the coaches and parents that gave them their first intiation into soccer. Mike is a genius and he proved his method would withstand the test of time. We just need to take it to the next level...Premier (which we did qualify for at U12) and stay there. You have a guy here with World Class Experience.... He may not be the businessman as Hussan....but he does love the kids and it is a start!

[quote name="soccerr3" post="786600" timestamp="1270570340"] in reponse to rip, i know washburn had been talked to by the spindletop trainers a year or two ago about getting on hughes team after they watched her in a scrimmage but she was a few months too old. Other than hughes team there isnt an actual club team in this af the teams are only d iv 2 that i know of. She went to houston to play on some teams for a little while but there just isnt enough well put together teams in this area [/quote] That has been a sad reality here, that only Mike has had the ability to build and sustain a reasonably competitive team at a Div 1 level. Hopefully for the kids that are in grade school now ....something will change. I know a few folks like Kelly Krotter, and Jim Ducan are trying real hard. Steve Hernandez also has a High School aged team, made up of mostly Westbrook and Kelly players that may have a year or two left in them...

This  must be a really tired subject.... just Myself, Newbie and setxgal even interested in making a comment. Newbie you made some very good points..... I believe what I meant to say was that it would be common knowledge or practice that the best players would play for one club.... We will see what happens. Thanks All for the thoughts

[quote name="Newbie" post="786320" timestamp="1270502008"] The problem with local clubs IMHO is they are mostly parent ran.  To be truly competitive and run well, look at the Dallas Texans model.  They have professionals running the show and calling the shots.  Let them come and see what they can do with the talent. [/quote] I think you are right Newbie, but I believe it has to be these professional ran clubs (ie Dallas Texans, Albion ...) objective to unify the community, not divide and conquer. There is some good in all these organizations and those aspects should be perserved and shared.

bump. just trying to keep this thread current til the rest get off of work. ::)

What is a Utility player?

[quote name="oodooo" post="786228" timestamp="1270482658"] I'll agree with Rip on this one, unification would be great in this area because you would get the level of competition and also a mingling of players that normally wouldn't happen. All of which seem like benefits, unless there's something I'm overlooking. In my opinion the whole Super Gold thing the B.E. does is a good thing, but in years past hasn't been the most credible way to award top players in the area as a whole, per se. Because, no disrespect to the B.E. but it doesn't cover soccer like it does with other sports say baseball, football, or basketball so it seems that they base it off of coaches opinions or whatever information they get, which can include this forum. All said when I played and the players from across the league I've talked to the Super Gold team seems like a consolation prize at times. There's my two cents, now let's see who will crucify it. [/quote] Thanks for the support oodooo. Now I will do my best to protect you from being crucified.  Let the one who has NOT SINNED cast the first stone, or go reply to Gold Club post.. Hope that helps! lol. :D

Why has there not been a unification or merger of the local clubs?  I am not talking about abolishing the recreational level organizations but funneling to a singular competitive entity.  I was in Dallas this past weekend at the Spring Classic and their was a rumor started of another club coming to town.... It seems to me the only way to really produce the best players is to get them all together and compete on the highest possible level.... similiarly as Mike Hughes has done. This is not a plug for Spindletop.... due to the fact my daughter and other players have recently left for Houston... but to compete against Houston we must have an All out Joint effort. I am I right or wrong. I would really like to see this happen in my life time. I think it will benefit the kids. Because the truth be told girls like Chloe( Super Gold Player of the Year) are competing against other girls that are better prepared.... for those same Div1 scholarships.... It makes no sense for us to drive 1.5 hrs one way to practice on a school night... but it is what we must do to compete against the top tier players from around the state for those scholarships, not to mention the other girls from the other 49 states. This is in no way a Spindeltop bashing... it is the best thing going... But it must improve and can with the willingness of the GREAT GOLDEN TRIANGLE! hince super GOLD! It does not matter what the name of the organization is or who is in charge. Heck Call it Super GOLD that has a nice ring to it! ps. I thought i was finished with my rant or rally call but something else hit me that only goes to prove my point. The SSSC93 team has only been 2 or 3 players away in it's entire existance from being a truly elite team by EDDOA standards and has lost enough DIV1 players to create a whole new team... names the likes of Lauren Seawright, Julianna Cruz, Brittney Jeanis, Claire Dykeman, Bailey Fontenot, Mallarie Hearn and now add Zuri Prince and Aaron Strawser to that list... Which begs me to ask where has Great Players the likes of Lauren Washburn and others been hiding or filling their thirst for competition in the sport they love. Players of this caliber would have made a significant difference in the outcome of this team (SSSC93) accomplishments and probably helped to keep some of the others from leaving to go to Houston to play in premier... I am not naive to say it would have stopped all from leaving but funneling these girls, that were willing, to the best team that could afford them the best opportunities would have gave the team a better oppurtunity at staying entacted with most of it's original players. Believe me the drive is wearing me out, not to mention the strain on the girls. OK I am through.   « Last Edit: Today at 10:48:01 AM by rip2506 »  Report to moderator    24.242.102.120

[quote name="sharkfutbol" post="786199" timestamp="1270475444"] Congratulations to Chloe of PNG.  I met her one day as she was out with another player practicing during the spring on her own.  All she wanted  was to get better and go play college.  She was out doing this on her own, obviously it helped, she got what she gave... and deserves her award.  She scored the most, and she is a team player.  Alot of other local girls played the same schedule and did not score as many.  You all can keep pointing out whatever you want.  The paper has been published and she has the award.  Lets be happy for the players that got Super Team,  congratulate them all.  And thank RC for putting it together.  And figure out a way to build the local club programs so our high school teams benefit. [/quote] Right on about Chloe she is a Very Hard worker and it will pay big dividends in the future! but I must confess i jumped on your quote for this reason. The last sentence.... figure out a way to build the local clubs to benefit our local schools.... Why has there not been a unification or merger of the local clubs?  I am not talking about abolishing the recreational level organizations but funneling to a singular competitive entity.  I was in Dallas this past weekend at the Spring Classic and their was a rumor started of another club coming to town.... It seems to me the only way to really produce the best players is to get them all together and compete on the highest possible level.... similiarly as Mike Hughes has done. This is not a plug for Spindletop.... due to the fact my daughter and other players have recently left for Houston... but to compete against Houston we must have an All out Joint effort. I am I right or wrong. I would really like to see this happen in my life time. I think it will benefit the kids. Because the truth be told girls like Chloe are competing against other girls that are better prepared.... for those same Div1 scholarships.... It makes no sense for us to drive 1.5 hrs one way to practice on a school night... but it is what we must do to compete against the top tier players from around the state for those scholarships, not to mention the other girls from the other 49 states. This is in no way a Spindeltop bashing... it is the best thing going... But it must improve and can with the willingness of the GREAT GOLDEN TRIANGLE! hince super GOLD! It does not matter what the name of the organization is or who is in charge. Heck Call it Super GOLD that has a nice ring to it! ;) ps. I thought i was finished with my rant or rally call but something else hit me that only goes to prove my point. The SSSC93 team has only been 2 or 3 players away in it's entire existance from being a truly elite team by EDDOA standards and has lost enough DIV1 players to create a whole new team... names the likes of Lauren Seawright, Julianna Cruz, Brittney Jeanis, Claire Dykeman, Bailey Fontenot, Mallory Hearn and now add Zuri Prince and Aaron Strawser to that list... Which begs me to ask where has Great Players the likes of Lauren Washburn and others been hiding or filling their thirst for competition in the sport they love. Players of this caliber would have made a significant difference in the outcome of this team (SSSC93) accomplishments and probably helped to keep some of the others from leaving to go to Houston to play in premier... I am not naive to say it would have stopped all from leaving but funneling these girls, that were willing, to the best team that could afford them the best opportunities would have gave the team a better oppurtunity at staying entacted with most of it's original players. Believe me the drive is wearing me out, not to mention the strain on the girls. OK I am through. ;D

[quote name="Islander" post="785988" timestamp="1270382854"] Hughes' contribution to girls soccer should not be under estimated.  The man loves soccer.  His teams are constantly raided for talent, yet he is able to send another winning team out on to the soccer field.  Keep up the good work.  And, his daughter, Emily, is one of the best soccer players in the area. [/quote] Spot on observation Islander. He lost two more top tier players this Spring and I still expect them to win State in Pres. Cup!

I heard Emily Hughes was the difference maker with 3 goals!

[quote name="Newbie" post="777259" timestamp="1268671222"] I believe Stefanie Miroballi also signed with Lamar.  She plays with my niece on Clear Lake High School's soccer team.  She has been on the Varsity team for 4 years, a member of last year's 5A runner up team at State, an outstanding midfielder/defender, Captain of her school team, and plays for Albion 92 blue.  Both players should make nice contributions. [/quote] I heard there was a total of 4 players from Albion, Newbie. That's great news.

Big Ups to the Lamar Head Soccer Coach Lamar's Head Soccer coach Dewi Hardman is showing me his hard efforts in recruiting are beginning to pay off by signing a top level soccer player in Angie Guillory. I have had the priviledge of watching Angie play and she is a star amongst stars on a loaded 93 team. There are players on that team that are verbally committed to  Rice, University of Texas, University of Kansas and the University of Houston to name a few.  And to say that our home town Lamar just snagged one of their elite players is saying something to me where the Cardinal Women's soccer program is headed. Quite frankly I still cannot  believe it!!!!!! Great Job Dewi!

[quote name="Newbie" post="774624" timestamp="1268251568"] Heard that they signed a couple of Albion Blue players.  Nice adds to the team.  Any more adds for next year? [/quote] Angie Guillory is a BIG add!  Gives the home team some real legitimacy in my eyes. If she played in the Golden triangle she would be the best player bar none!