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Silsbee gave the ball back to Newton on the 35. Newton fumbles..Tigers recover. Silsbee long run by QB 2nd and 10 on the Newton 18.

7-0 Newton 1 play scoring drive - 72 yard TD pass

To answer the orginal post... This year: Too early to say. Last year: Dayton.

What you say may be true..but at the end of the day Kirbyville are the reigning champs for the district. Newton gets a chance to to reclaim that title later in the year...but until then it is Kirbyville's to lose. Yes, last year was the first time in decades Kirbyville beat Newton..but it WAS the last time...the good news is this question WILL get settled on the field so trying to settle it on a forum is pointless. I happen to be quite happy Kirbyville is at a level to contend with Newton. The rivalry has been renewed...it loses something after a couple dozen lopsided scores. It is also nice to have a game in the same classification that is not a forgeone conclusion. Week 10 is much more exciting than the weeks that lead up to it.

There is no transitive property in football. That being said..if I were a betting man I'd take the Eagles.

I hear the fields will be muddy.

Longview should win it all. Lake Travis is rated too highly based on last year.

Apologies if I was misinformed. DCTF reports 4 offensive and 0 defensive starters returning. P.S. It is JohnsTon and yes, that will most certainly help. Also, I don't know what gave you the impression I am down or Kirbyville or the defense. I am not. At all. As I said, there are a couple question marks..but those could turn out that this year's squad is better than last year..I just don't know.

A preseason poll is all hype they are based on what the team did the year before and who they have coming back and what they think they will do. There are prob 3 or 4 teams on this list that wont be on it a few weeks into the season. Both good points but what gets me is that everyone is questioning their D this yr. We all know that they lost alot of starters but those starters didn't play the majority of each game last yr. The playing time that the underclassman got will be a huge key to ther defense. Somewhere in the 5-10 spot sounds about right for a pre-season poll. Well that is a bit of an overstatement I think. They did not lose "alot of starters" they lost all 11. It is also not likely true that the starters played less than half of the downs for the season (or if it was true then the posted stats were not accurate). I get your point that Kirbyville was often up (particularly in most district games) and the backups/underclassmen likely got a good bit of playing time. I also agree that playing time will certainly help in the coming season. I just don't buy that they played more than the starters. I think "questioning" the D is fair. I don't think it is fair to say they won't be good or even that they don't deserve any ranking they have but losing 11 starters is enough for me to say I don't know how good that D would be. From my chair, this is a very telling year for the Kirbyville program. They have had a very special group of kids the past few years that all just left. How they do without them will likely be a good indicator of things to come.

Attendance for these 10 games are among the highest on record in state history: Attendance Game Site Year 49,953 Plano vs. Port Neches-Groves Texas Stadium 1977* 46,339 Southlake Carroll vs. Euless Trinity Texas Stadium 2006 45,790 Highland Park vs. Waco Cotton Bowl 1945* 45,000 Houston Washington vs. Galveston Rice Stadium 1968 45,000 Dallas Adams vs. Richardson Cotton Bowl 1967 39,102 Garland vs. Katy Astrodome 1999* 39,102 Stephenville vs. Port Neches-Groves Astrodome 1999* 38,570 Port Neches-Groves vs. Houston Kashmere Astrodome 1977 38,374 Plano vs. Highland Park Texas Stadium 1980 38,000 Odessa vs. San Antonio Jefferson Memorial Stadium (Austin) 1946 36,000 Fort Bend Willowridge vs. Houston Yates Rice Stadium 1988 * State Championship game

The Padilla poll is what is now used for the DCTF rankings. The link below shows the Padilla poll to 50 places for each class. [Hidden Content]

Coaches Poll as reported in DCTF 1. Daingerfield 2. Cisco 3. Muleshoe 4. Newton 5. Kirbyville 6. Arp 7. Pilot Point 8. Refugio 9. Blanco 10. Rice

Southeast Texas != Golden Triangle

I highly doubt anyone can present a credible argument that Johnston "switching sides" does not: 1. Help Kirbyville 2. Hurt Newton

How about Jasper, Newton, Kirbyville 5 Finals appearances and 2 championships by those 3 teams in the last decade.

I don't doubt the posted those times. I do doubt they actually ran 40 yards in that amount of time. Before anyone brings up "you run harder in the 40 because you dont have to go as far as the 100": The 40 meter split from the world record 60 meters (Maurice Green in 2001) is 4.64 That extrapolates to a 4.24 40 yard dash. Now for a real superhuman 40: Ben Johnson in 1988 ran a since DQ'd world record 50m (the shortest distance recognized in track) of 5.15 seconds. I don't have his splits so I can't get any closr than using his 50m time but that extraplotes to 3.77 which, is likely a little faster than his actual but coming in sub-4 is certainly possible. Bear in mind these are the fastest times ever recorded..by the fastest men in the world, INDOORs, on a track, in spikes, with years of training with the best coaches, nutrionists, (and in the case of Ben Johnson performance enhancing drugs) available.

TLDR Version: Usain Bolt ran a 4.4 40 yard dash at the Olympics. I got involved in a conversation a while back about 40 yard dash times (my basic assertion is the times you see are largely BS). It started when someone was claiming a high school kid ran a 4.2 I'll spare you the details but at some point the conversation turned to world class sprinters and converting 100m times to 40 yard times. It was claimed that Usain Bolt's 40 was 3.54 (it turns out someone at ESPN actually made this claim). We all (or at least those of us that know better) know this is hogwash. So....I set out to find out what his actual "40" time was. First let's start with how the math genius at ESPN came up with 3.54: 1. They took the 100 meter distance and converted it to yards (100 meters = 109.36133 yards) 2. Next, you take the 40 yards distance and divide that by 109.36133 to get the percentage of 100 meters 40 yards is (36.5759%) 3. Now take Usain Bolt's record 9.69 100m time and multiply it by .365759 and you get...3.54420471 4. I little rounding and viola..3.54 Now then, anyone that knows just a little about sprinting (or physics for that matter) knows that this is a flawed method. A runner does not start at full speed and maintain that velocity for the entire race. In fact, in the 100 meter runners don't get to top speed until around the 50m mark, well past the 40 yard distance. So ideally we would have a 40 yard mark on the track and could see what time he crossed it..but we don't. So....I'll do the best we can. First off we need to look at his 10m splits. They are as follows (all times in seconds): RT (from gun to start moving) 0.165 0m-10m 1.85 10m-20m 1.02 20m-30m 0.91 30m-40m 0.87 40m-50m 0.85 50m-60m 0.82 60m-70m 0.82 70m-80m 0.82 80m-90m 0.83 90m-100m 0.90 Total Time 9.69 seconds This are the actual electronically timed, video verified splits..no RT, hand timed tricks. Now then where would that 40 yard mark be? The answer is the is the 36.576 meter mark. As such, we'll be taking the total of his splits to the 40m mark. That happens to be 4.815 Next we do a simple conversion to find that 40 yards is 91.44% of the 40 meter distance. Now we can convert his 40m time into a much more meaningful 40 yard time. That time? 4.4 (4.815*.9144=4.402836) I stand by my assertion that all these 15 year-olds are not running 4.3s

You mean all those high school kids arent really running 4.2s and 4.3s?!!?!

Navy does run a spread offense. I chose them and Tech for my examples because they are opposite extremes of the spread "spectrum". Here is a decent article on the spread: [Hidden Content] The spread can be very effective in the running game at the high school level because by spreading the defense out, you can overcome a lack of size on your offensive line.

I agree...Not many better than C. Michaels, but J. Charles. Jamaal had 4105 yards rushing and 52 TD's in two years. 2051 yds his Jr. year and then 2054 yrds his Sr. year (in just 9 games). I don't have his receiving stats or his Sophomore season stats. In his first game back from shoulder surgery, posted 371 yards on 49 carries against Midland Lee in 2004 ... Had 400 yards on 31 carries and six TDs versus Spring Westfield. Great numbers against great competition. Point made, badndn. However, Michaels achieved those numbers while sharing the backfield with other good backs like Albert Williams, Jordan Garrett, Jeremy Cooper, ect. If he had been the only back playing, I'm quite sure his numbers would have been as good as, or better than Charles'. As it was, Jamal was the feature back when he was in HS, and subsequently got all the carries, while Michaels was sharing the RB duties. I don't know about his Junior year but Michaels wasn't doing much duty sharing last season.

I'd be interested in hearing reasoning from anyone that does not have Anahuac as a heavy favorite.

Depends on which flavor of the spread you are running. Some are run-first offenses (Navy). Some are pass first (Texas Tech). It depends on what you are trying to do.

I've always thought the "football 40" should be run in full pads.

Is this strictly based on stats?

how is kirbyville a darkhorse team? they went to the state championship game last year They also graduated nearly all the key players on that team..neverless..I think they will do better than expected.