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They may have Central ranked 4th based on them not having spring practice...... PN-G does return a 1000 yard+ rusher but I saw what they had behind the starters when they scrimmaged PA and it was like night and day as far as footspeed and quickness..... I dunno, I tend to give the edge to the teams with returning QB's so I'll go with Livingston, Central the PN-G because of the running game.....

[quote name="besbolbenbedygud" post="1019197" timestamp="1308373073"] [quote author=SFA85 link=topic=84989.msg1019063#msg1019063 date=1308334767] [quote author=besbolbenbedygud link=topic=84989.msg1019056#msg1019056 date=1308334065] Titan.... Don't let anyone fool you.  I've been through the good, the bad, and the good again, of West Brook.  It was quite the opposite.  Butch's hands were in the creation of NEW HEBERT, which sent West Brook to the Friday night grave yard you speak of.  It was clear, IMO, the intent was to have Ozen be superior in athletics (football and basketball). "With all due Respect"   1) Ozen barley started making the playoffs much less stop + 2) the slow exudes that had begun combined with + 3) Stump and his QB .......=brought instant and maintained success.  And I said "With all due Respect."............LOL   Just to add I'm a huge David Green fan!!!! [/quote] That's how it was when 'Old Hebert' was opened.  Forest Park didn't win squat in nothing..... [/quote] Well, good thing, I could care less about the Forest Park era.... I'm from the South Park/West Brook era which wld be where the majority of those 'New Hebert' recruits would be coming from now a days........  ;)  Loved being around Arthur Lewis!!! Great guy!! [/quote] That's just it, you young people have the historical attention span of a gnat.  SP wasn't all that great either.  19 out of 22 starters were from Hebert the first year they opened up which helped them win state in football.  FP/SP not so much....

[quote name="bigdog" post="1019077" timestamp="1308337379"] Moving from the old W 19-4A to 20-4A didn't help Ozen either. [/quote] They faired better under Brooks.  Had a 4-2 record agaist MC during the Brook years plus a bunch of D1 scholarships.  Was 3-3 against WO-S with Lewis and Brooks......

[quote name="besbolbenbedygud" post="1019056" timestamp="1308334065"] Titan.... Don't let anyone fool you.  I've been through the good, the bad, and the good again, of West Brook.  It was quite the opposite.  Butch's hands were in the creation of NEW HEBERT, which sent West Brook to the Friday night grave yard you speak of.  It was clear, IMO, the intent was to have Ozen be superior in athletics (football and basketball). "With all due Respect"   1) Ozen barley started making the playoffs much less stop + 2) the slow exudes that had begun combined with + 3) Stump and his QB .......=brought instant and maintained success.  And I said "With all due Respect."............LOL   Just to add I'm a huge David Green fan!!!! [/quote] That's how it was when 'Old Hebert' was opened.  Forest Park didn't win squat in nothing.....

Yep.  WO-S can beat any team around here with the spread but they've been losing to schools that run right at them.  This isn't anything new.  When they would play Ozen, the times they would lose is when Ozen ran right at them.  Better to take a 8 yard gain going straight, than to take a 3 yard loss going wide.  Besides, practicing against the I makes you tougher defensively.  So when they meet a Coldspring or a Kirbyville, they are more solid up the middle of the defense

[quote name="I dont play well with Jaguars" post="1019037" timestamp="1308329847"] Weak Brooke been recruiting for years IMO  :D Remember when WB was getting their rears handed to them on a platter and Ozen was making playoffs season after season? once Ozen stopped making the playoffs what happened? Oh, all of a sudden WB creeps up from the grave and became relevant again. hmmmmmm...... ;) I think Butch had a hand in it. LOL [/quote] This happened to Butch's dismay.  They keep letting kids transfer based on the schools performance on that test.  But instead of the kids that are struggling, they let the kids that are passing transfer not to mention they are 2 elementaries that are zoned to Marshall and Vincent that lie in the Pear.  Doesn't make sense to me.  Plus, Ozen went through a period of revolving coaches.  While Central had the same thing, Central kept winning and Ozen doesn't....

[quote name="Gasilla" post="1016654" timestamp="1307324229"] Pierce will run the 50. From what I've been able to find out, Hodges runs a bunch out of the "I". Looks like he runs about 70% of the time. [/quote] It would be nice to see WO-S more physical(I-formation).......

What kind of offense and defense do these 2 prefer?????

[quote name="James Mosley" post="1016522" timestamp="1307264872"] Very well said dawgnut. 100% agree!!! Oh by the way, it's American Idol, not American Idle, although America being idle might be whats wrong too...Either way, well said and dead on right. [/quote] He said it right the first time:  American Idle lol

[quote name="Big Ford" post="1016423" timestamp="1307225243"] Should have spent the money years ago to expand and renovate instead of create a 3rd high school.  We would now have two pretty dominate 5A schools in Beaumont.  D3, nothing against Ozen, just remember the days when Central and West Brook games REALLY meant something.  Now it's too diluted. SFA, yea I remember the Greenies, Cougars, Buffaloes, etc. [/quote] Been in BMT since '91.  WB had it all, Central had nothing and their ADM was dropping since day 1(per Dave Campbell Football) and WB dominated the Beaumont Bowl also.  I think Central may have won 2 before Ozen opened.  All the kids in NW Beaumont that were suppose to go to Central based on the old French AZ, started going to WB.  Also, Kelly was pretty stout back then also.  Besides, before the Teabaggers of the WestEnd began crying, CBT was a hero when he took BISD to neightborhood schools.....

Man you guys are so short sided.  At one time BMT had 6 public hs and 2 ISD's....... Anyway, quit with all the transfers from the Pear to WB and Ozen will stay 4A.....

I hear from a reliable source he's out til week 1 of district.  Knee ligiment......

Now back on topic.  Wilmer-Hutchins ISD was dissolved into Dallas due to years of financial mismanagement to the point of only 30 percent of their buildings could be used.  I'm sure somebody will fact check me but I'm sure that's what led to their demise....

[quote name="Don't slap PAM or Brooke  too hard with your pimp hand,Jags." post="999644" timestamp="1303247244"] [quote author=I dont play well with Jaguars link=topic=83348.msg999642#msg999642 date=1303247029] [quote author=Don't slap PAM or Brooke  too hard with your pimp hand,Jags. link=topic=83348.msg999639#msg999639 date=1303246878] [quote author=I dont play well with Jaguars link=topic=83348.msg999606#msg999606 date=1303242244] I still say LCM got robbed of a playoff spot.  ;) I would have had them there instead of Central LMAO!!! wait for it.................................................... [/quote]Won't happen.  [b]You see the mess that was formed when SFA, Lincoln, and Jefferson combined[/b]...   ;D ;D [/quote]the best 5A school in SETX was formed  ;) [/quote]After Charles, the talent pool went dry.  Basketball was medeocre, then  you started losing talent to MC and  Beaumont Kelly (are you serious)? ;D [/quote] As hard as I've been on PAM since the merger, you can't name me one kid that could start @ either football or basketball who left.....

[quote name="Versey Ledbetter" post="984499" timestamp="1300398484"] Port Arthur is full of brand new schools and yet no one is beating down the door to move to there. [/quote] Bottom line is PA does have new schools.  And the refineries haven't left.....

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="983845" timestamp="1300298764"] Little Cypress-Mauriceville and Port Arthur SFA played 12 times between 1970 and 1995.  However, Little Cypress High School (before it's merger with Mauriceville) played Port Acres High and later SFA 10 times between 1958 and 1969. These are the results of the LC-M/SFA series: [table][tr][td][b][color=black]Year[/td][td]     [/td][td][b][color=black]Score[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1970[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=green]LC-M 22, SFA 12[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1971[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=green]LC-M 21, SFA 14[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1972[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=green]LC-M 21, SFA 0[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1973[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=blue]SFA 26, LC-M 0[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1974[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=green]LC-M 37, SFA 21[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1975[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=green]LC-M 13, SFA 7[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1976[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=blue]SFA 30, LC-M 24[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1977[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=green]LC-M 19, SFA 15[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1988[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=blue]SFA 7, LC-M 3[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1989[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=green]LC-M 29, SFA 15[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1994[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=green]LC-M 24, SFA 0[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1995[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=green]LC-M 6, SFA 3[/td][/tr][/table] These are the results of the Little Cypress/SFA series: [table][tr][td][b][color=black]Year[/td][td]     [/td][td][b][color=black]Score[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1968[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=blue]SFA 21, Little Cypress 15[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1969[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=green]Little Cypress 41, SFA 0[/td][/tr][/table] These are the results of the Little Cypress/Port Acres series: [table][tr][td][b][color=black]Year[/td][td]     [/td][td][b][color=black]Score[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1958[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=blue]Port Acres 24, Little Cypress 0[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1959[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=blue]Port Acres 41, Little Cypress 0[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1960[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=blue]Port Acres 20, Little Cypress 6[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1961[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=green]Little Cypress 26, Port Acres 20[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1962[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=blue]Port Acres 12, Little Cypress 0[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1963[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=Blue]Port Acres 13, Little Cypress 0[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1964[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=blue]Port Acres 13, Little Cypress 6[/td][/tr] [tr][td][color=black]1965[/td][td]     [/td][td][color=blue]Port Acres 27, Little Cypress 8[/td][/tr][/table] [/quote] Thanks Grad.  Where can I find the history of all the schools???

Need this info.  Mostly for SFA vs. LC-M.  I only recall 2 years in the mid nineties so WO-S grad help me out

Supposedly Jim McMahon was suspended after he left BYU for the NFL......

Congrats Lady Panthers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No.....

The author stating that Lancaster is possilbe another LaMarque is ludicrous on it's face.  I don't think LC has ever won Region 2 let alone 5 rings, numerous district and regional titles.....

[quote name="Anafanatic" post="939765" timestamp="1293720567"] It may be Albritton based on what he does next season, but back in the day I remember 2 real good RB's: Kedrick Williams & Percy Hill [/quote] Only beat them once in 5 years of playing against those 2

No.....

Not just LM but the Ricebirds as well.  But since it's a caculation vs a hard number, then LM and El Campo should be on the low end of 4A just like Stephenville.....

[quote name="adminbaberuth" post="935315" timestamp="1292638880"] where's aledo located? [/quote] South of Fort Worth I believe...