BEARCAT Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 There is usually (not always) a big difference in talent from 4a to 3a at the State level. Just look at the results of the YMBL tournament this year when some top 4a schools played one of the best (silsbee) 3a schools from our area. Yates is now ranked #1 in 4a (I think). I hope HJ and Silsbee can continue to be the class of region 3 but as of right now I think Yates will dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="BADSANTA" post="1170594" timestamp="1328209857"]Someone told me a few years back Yates was having issues with staying open due to test scores. In the 80's they were 5A, 00's 4A, and now 3A. Look out 2A![/quote]Pretty soon they'll be 1A division 2. They'll only have 12 boys at the high school, but all of them will be at least 6'5", except maybe their point guard :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="setxbbfan" post="1170590" timestamp="1328209780"]How will Wise fare coaching against guys like Sutherland and Siglar. He has his critics. [/quote] ::) ::) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="setxbbfan" post="1170602" timestamp="1328210076"]I agree-I'm asking can coach Wise hang with Sutherland and Siglar. I have seen them play many times. The very few times he had to make adjustments-he struggled.[/quote]he struggles against Findley Prep (with their old players) and nationally ranked teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="BEARCAT" post="1170608" timestamp="1328210120"]There is usually (not always) a big difference in talent from 4a to 3a at the State level. Just look at the results of the YMBL tournament this year when some top 4a schools played one of the best (silsbee) 3a schools from our area. Yates is now ranked #1 in 4a (I think). I hope HJ and Silsbee can continue to be the class of region 3 but as of right now I think Yates will dominate.[/quote]Ahhhh! Refreshing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1170613" timestamp="1328210195"][quote author=setxbbfan link=topic=95318.msg1170590#msg1170590 date=1328209780]How will Wise fare coaching against guys like Sutherland and Siglar. He has his critics. [/quote] ::) ::)[/quote]his team full of recruits will probably be too much for them, but from a coaching standpoint, he's no better than them. from what i've seen, he's probably worse, as he doesn't know how to play but one style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setxbbfan Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Thats kind of my point. As long as his style is working-they are very tough. I have seen a couple (not many) games in which his opponent was as good as his team and when adjustment time came-he struggled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="bullets13" post="1170621" timestamp="1328210409"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95318.msg1170613#msg1170613 date=1328210195][quote author=setxbbfan link=topic=95318.msg1170590#msg1170590 date=1328209780]How will Wise fare coaching against guys like Sutherland and Siglar. He has his critics. [/quote] ::) ::)[/quote]his team full of recruits will probably be too much for them, but from a coaching standpoint, he's no better than them. from what i've seen, he's probably worse, as he doesn't know how to play but one style.[/quote]They have too many weapons to defend. They're getting international recruits ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST413 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Wow! I can't wait until the day one of these little ole 3A teams knocks mighty yates out of the playoffs, especially if its one of out local teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="setxbbfan" post="1170626" timestamp="1328210573"]Thats kind of my point. As long as his style is working-they are very tough. I have seen a couple (not many) games in which his opponent was as good as his team and when adjustment time came-he struggled.[/quote]I watched them play Wheatley (whom Central beat this year) and the game was very much in doubt until the last 5 minutes. The lead changed hands many times during the game. Now the reason being given is that three Yates starters were missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="ST413" post="1170631" timestamp="1328210762"]Wow! I can't wait until the day one of these little ole 3A teams knocks mighty yates out of the playoffs, especially if its one of out local teams.[/quote]Sorry, you'll be too old to remember what happened when and if that day comes. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfever Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 The winner of 21-3A will probably play Yates (winner of 23-3A) in the Regional Quarterfinals. That is if both of them win the 2nd round game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="bballgod" post="1170645" timestamp="1328211066"]The winner of 21-3A will probably play Yates (winner of 23-3A) in the Regional Quarterfinals. That is if both of them win the 2nd round game.[/quote]let us all pray together for this to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST413 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1170639" timestamp="1328210900"][quote author=ST413 link=topic=95318.msg1170631#msg1170631 date=1328210762]Wow! I can't wait until the day one of these little ole 3A teams knocks mighty yates out of the playoffs, especially if its one of out local teams.[/quote]Sorry, you'll be too old to remember what happened when and if that day comes. ;)[/quote]It will happen, just a matter of time. I remember a game last year, that you said my Tigers couldn't win. No they didn't win it but only because the last spot just wouldnt fall. You said out was lack of focus by GBall, it only takes one night for that to happen and that last shot to happen to fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanintheStands Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="ST413" post="1170717" timestamp="1328213278"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95318.msg1170639#msg1170639 date=1328210900][quote author=ST413 link=topic=95318.msg1170631#msg1170631 date=1328210762]Wow! I can't wait until the day one of these little ole 3A teams knocks mighty yates out of the playoffs, especially if its one of out local teams.[/quote]Sorry, you'll be too old to remember what happened when and if that day comes. ;)[/quote]It will happen, just a matter of time. I remember a game last year, that you said my Tigers couldn't win. No they didn't win it but only because the last spot just wouldnt fall. You said out was lack of focus by GBall, it only takes one night for that to happen and that last shot to happen to fall.[/quote].... and Silsbee proved 3 weeks ago that yes, sometimes that last shot does fall! (Sigh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="ST413" post="1170717" timestamp="1328213278"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95318.msg1170639#msg1170639 date=1328210900][quote author=ST413 link=topic=95318.msg1170631#msg1170631 date=1328210762]Wow! I can't wait until the day one of these little ole 3A teams knocks mighty yates out of the playoffs, especially if its one of out local teams.[/quote]Sorry, you'll be too old to remember what happened when and if that day comes. ;)[/quote]It will happen, just a matter of time. I remember a game last year, that you said my Tigers couldn't win. No they didn't win it but only because the last spot just wouldnt fall. You said out was lack of focus by GBall, it only takes one night for that to happen and that last shot to happen to fall.[/quote]OMG! Back on that game again, huh? Let me say it in a different way. Ball did not take Silsbee as serious as Silsbee took Ball. And as I predicted, Ball won as expected. They played *down* that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1170794" timestamp="1328217268"][quote author=ST413 link=topic=95318.msg1170717#msg1170717 date=1328213278][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95318.msg1170639#msg1170639 date=1328210900][quote author=ST413 link=topic=95318.msg1170631#msg1170631 date=1328210762]Wow! I can't wait until the day one of these little ole 3A teams knocks mighty yates out of the playoffs, especially if its one of out local teams.[/quote]Sorry, you'll be too old to remember what happened when and if that day comes. ;)[/quote]It will happen, just a matter of time. I remember a game last year, that you said my Tigers couldn't win. No they didn't win it but only because the last spot just wouldnt fall. You said out was lack of focus by GBall, it only takes one night for that to happen and that last shot to happen to fall.[/quote]OMG! Back on that game again, huh? Let me say it in a different way. Ball did not take Silsbee as serious as Silsbee took Ball. And as I predicted, Ball won as expected. They played *down* that game.[/quote]and assuming yates comes into 3A as confident as YOU are with them, they'll be playing "down" to opponents' levels through the entire playoffs... which means one of the several quality teams in this region could easily pull off an upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 ;D Keep in mind Bullets, that the Dove uses "selective" reasoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADSANTA Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 SETX will beat a Yates team next year! They play almost out of control at times. They have very below average shooters. Most of their points come off the press. I think the Tigers and Hawks have points returning who can beat their press and not panic under pressure. They normally start 6'2, 6'2, 5'11 6'6 and 6'5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST413 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1170794" timestamp="1328217268"][quote author=ST413 link=topic=95318.msg1170717#msg1170717 date=1328213278][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95318.msg1170639#msg1170639 date=1328210900][quote author=ST413 link=topic=95318.msg1170631#msg1170631 date=1328210762]Wow! I can't wait until the day one of these little ole 3A teams knocks mighty yates out of the playoffs, especially if its one of out local teams.[/quote]Sorry, you'll be too old to remember what happened when and if that day comes. ;)[/quote]It will happen, just a matter of time. I remember a game last year, that you said my Tigers couldn't win. No they didn't win it but only because the last spot just wouldnt fall. You said out was lack of focus by GBall, it only takes one night for that to happen and that last shot to happen to fall.[/quote]OMG! Back on that game again, huh? Let me say it in a different way. Ball did not take Silsbee as serious as Silsbee took Ball. And as I predicted, Ball won as expected. They played *down* that game.[/quote]Exactly what I was saying if Yates is still so good all it takes is one of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST413 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 ...those games and the "upset" happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Heard Yates has decided to appeal to go back to 4A. They did not check the box to opt up by orders of HISD but the powers at be thought their enrollment numbers would still keep them 4A.Now the egos are in play and they want to appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name="BADSANTA" post="1170816" timestamp="1328218758"]SETX will beat a Yates team next year! They play almost out of control at times. They have very below average shooters. Most of their points come off the press. I think the Tigers and Hawks have points returning who can beat their press and not panic under pressure. They normally start 6'2, 6'2, 5'11 6'6 and 6'5.[/quote]Wow, how did I miss these few comments. But never too late to respond ;) Yates have average shooters, I agree. The only way HJ can score off Yates is to run when Yates score. HJ cannot play a half court game with Yates. Sounds odd to say that, doesn't it? I'l let you guys and other experts figure it out.Silsbee, well thats a whole different story. Yates size and rebounding matched with their quickness will match well against Silsbee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1171495" timestamp="1328308648"][quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=95318.msg1170816#msg1170816 date=1328218758]SETX will beat a Yates team next year! They play almost out of control at times. They have very below average shooters. Most of their points come off the press. I think the Tigers and Hawks have points returning who can beat their press and not panic under pressure. They normally start 6'2, 6'2, 5'11 6'6 and 6'5.[/quote]Wow, how did I miss these few comments. But never too late to respond ;) Yates have average shooters, I agree. The only way HJ can score off Yates is to run when Yates score. HJ cannot play a half court game with Yates. Sounds odd to say that, doesn't it? I'l let you guys and other experts figure it out.Silsbee, well thats a whole different story. Yates size and rebounding matched with their quickness will match well against Silsbee.[/quote]So you are saying that Silsbee would do considerably better against Yates than Hj would? Is that sort of like WOS losing to Silsbee at Silsbee by 7 and then HJ beating WOS at WOS by 30+? Yes, I can certainly see how that comparison works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADSANTA Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Stevnash I will go out on a limb and tell you for a fact Yates would beat HJ by 30. The speed they have in their starting 5 gets faster when the bench clears. Coach Wise is like the dude from the original Karate Kid. "No Mercy"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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