AggiesAreWe Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Posted up at top of forum.Local teams that made final rankings:4A Nederland #123A Hardin-Jefferson #11 Cleveland #142A East Chambers #11 Kountze #141A DI Evadale #21A DII Spurger #11Teams that dropped out of polls:3A #6 Silsbee #21 Coldspring1A DI #17 West SabineOzen, Kountze, Evadale and Spurger finish in final poll after not being in poll at end of regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted March 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I expected Silsbee to fall but not completely out of the rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Abe Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Where the €£^#¥? Is Nederland?Ozen, #12, really? Let's review:Nederland ranked 18, 19th most of the season. Ozen not ranked in top 25 all season (unless it was early). Nederland beat Ozen TWICE!Nederland beat Humble who finished 1st in their district. Ozen lost to Kingwood Park who was 2nd in that same district.Nederland makes Reg tourney, makes it to 'Sweet 16'. Ozen loses one round earlier in round of 32.Can ANYONE please explain this absurdity?Who votes on this? Coaches? UIL? AP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CThoops Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 [quote name="Honest Abe" post="984075" timestamp="1300329463"]Where the €£^#¥? Is Nederland?Ozen, #12, really? Let's review:Nederland ranked 18, 19th most of the season. Ozen not ranked in top 25 all season (unless it was early). Nederland beat Ozen TWICE!Nederland beat Humble who finished 1st in their district. Ozen lost to Kingwood Park who was 2nd in that same district.Nederland makes Reg tourney, makes it to 'Sweet 16'. Ozen loses one round earlier in round of 32.Can ANYONE please explain this absurdity?Who votes on this? Coaches? UIL? AP?[/quote]Dead on! Thats some major Hating going on.. wow.. And what about Silsbee? Same as Nederland.. Joke.. >:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Yes, Nederland got screwed big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat1 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I'm surprised about Nederland, but they did lose pretty bad in regionals, but I thought they'd make the Top 25. I figured Silsbee wouldn't stay Top 25, I doubt there are any teams that lose in the 2nd round to make the final ranking list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alice Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Go Bucs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted March 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 [quote name="Bobcat05" post="984150" timestamp="1300364248"]I'm surprised about Nederland, but they did lose pretty bad in regionals, but I thought they'd make the Top 25. I figured Silsbee wouldn't stay Top 25, [b]I doubt there are any teams that lose in the 2nd round to make the final ranking list. [/b] [/quote]Teams that lost in 2nd round that finished in top 255A San Antonio Churchill4A Houston Yates2A Marion1A DI Mumford Slocum1A DII GradyAlso, there are 16 3rd round losers that remain in top 25 polls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat1 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 [quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="984175" timestamp="1300366960"][quote author=Bobcat05 link=topic=81844.msg984150#msg984150 date=1300364248]I'm surprised about Nederland, but they did lose pretty bad in regionals, but I thought they'd make the Top 25. I figured Silsbee wouldn't stay Top 25, [b]I doubt there are any teams that lose in the 2nd round to make the final ranking list. [/b] [/quote]Teams that lost in 2nd round that finished in top 255A San Antonio Churchill4A Houston Yates2A Marion1A DI Mumford Slocum1A DII GradyAlso, there are 16 3rd round losers that remain in top 25 polls.[/quote]Who did those teams lose to and by how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Abe Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 [quote name="Bobcat05" post="984150" timestamp="1300364248"]I'm surprised about Nederland, but they did lose pretty bad in regionals, but I thought they'd make the Top 25. I figured Silsbee wouldn't stay Top 25, I doubt there are any teams that lose in the 2nd round to make the final ranking list. [/quote]Keep in mind that they lost to the (apparent) 3rd ranked team in the state. Does point differential really matter? Again, read my post above, allow it to sink in, and tell me how it's possible that anyone could come to that conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 final polls are always a joke unless your crowned #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat1 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 [quote name="Honest Abe" post="984194" timestamp="1300368099"][quote author=Bobcat05 link=topic=81844.msg984150#msg984150 date=1300364248]I'm surprised about Nederland, but they did lose pretty bad in regionals, but I thought they'd make the Top 25. I figured Silsbee wouldn't stay Top 25, I doubt there are any teams that lose in the 2nd round to make the final ranking list. [/quote]Keep in mind that they lost to the (apparent) 3rd ranked team in the state. Does point differential really matter? Again, read my post above, allow it to sink in, and tell me how it's possible that anyone could come to that conclusion?[/quote]I don't know if you finished reading what I said, but let me repeat myself so maybe it can "sink in", that I thought they would made top 25, but getting beat pretty bad in the first round of regionals might have had something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Abe Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 [quote name="Scooter!" post="984195" timestamp="1300368224"]final polls are always a joke unless your crowned #1.[/quote]I know it's not going to matter (to us) 9 months from now, but those kids and Coach English deserve the recognition. And Bobcat, they beat Ozen (who was not ranked all season in top 25 until final poll) twice in district convincingly, made it one round deeper, beat Humble (who won their district). Ozen lost to KW Park (who finished 2nd in that same district). Points don't matter. Kimball beat LaMarque by 15 or so in the final...so what? You didn't see them slip 6 or more spots like Nederland did, yet Ozen jumps (at least 14 spots)???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat1 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Why are you trying to convince me they should be ranked, I've already said (three times now) that I thought they should, I was just giving a reason on why that might not have been. Look at 1A Evadale, lost in the semis of the state tourny, yet in the final polls they are #2. What about the team that actually made it to the finals? They got beat pretty bad, so because Evadale played the champs pretty dang close, I'd [i]GUESS [/i] that's why they are ranked over the team that actually made it to the finals of state. I could be wrong, but ----NEDERLAND SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE TOP 25!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverADog Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Isn't this a coaches poll? I understand the players would like the recognition. But the guys voting on this can't possibly keep up with every team. If you ever read in to these polls too much you will lose a lot of sleep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanintheStands Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 [quote name="Bobcat05" post="984230" timestamp="1300371244"]Why are you trying to convince me they should be ranked, I've already said (three times now) that I thought they should, I was just giving a reason on why that might not have been. Look at 1A Evadale, lost in the semis of the state tourny, yet in the final polls they are #2. What about the team that actually made it to the finals? They got beat pretty bad, so because Evadale played the champs pretty dang close, I'd [i]GUESS [/i] that's why they are ranked over the team that actually made it to the finals of state. I could be wrong, but ----NEDERLAND SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE TOP 25!!! [/quote]Bobcat, I wish you wouldn't be so evasive.... Just what are your feelings regarding Nederland? C'mon, Man! Get off the fence! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CThoops Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Im still waiting for the guys to realize they typed in the wrong team from District 20-4A.. They need to look a little higher on the district standings list, maybe look at the one at the top, then change the name ;) If that happened, I would at least understand and we can blame the secretary for the misprint, not the coaches for being stupid on this poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmrm Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 [quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="984054" timestamp="1300327490"]Posted up at top of forum.Local teams that made final rankings:4A Bmt. Ozen #123A Hardin-Jefferson #11 Cleveland #142A East Chambers #11 Kountze #141A DI Evadale #21A DII Spurger #11Teams that dropped out of polls:4A #18 Nederland3A #6 Silsbee #21 Coldspring1A DI #17 West SabineOzen, Kountze, Evadale and Spurger finish in final poll after not being in poll at end of regular season.[/quote]I realize unless you win state these rankings don't mean a thing, but in my opinion, they didn't quite get the rankings right in regards to our Southeast Texas teams. It's obvious these rankings are based on a school's performance in the playoffs but that doesn't reflect their entire body of work. I tend to take a team's season long performance into account as opposed to a possible one & done format where any team can win on any given night. I would have Silsbee #5, HJ #7 & Cleveland #10 - I realize my rankings don't hold any more water than the TABC ratings but thought I would try & offer a more accurate depiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmrm Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 [quote name="bmrm" post="985426" timestamp="1300502242"][quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=81844.msg984054#msg984054 date=1300327490]Posted up at top of forum.Local teams that made final rankings:4A Bmt. Ozen #123A Hardin-Jefferson #11 Cleveland #142A East Chambers #11 Kountze #141A DI Evadale #21A DII Spurger #11Teams that dropped out of polls:4A #18 Nederland3A #6 Silsbee #21 Coldspring1A DI #17 West SabineOzen, Kountze, Evadale and Spurger finish in final poll after not being in poll at end of regular season.[/quote]I realize unless you win state these rankings don't mean a thing, but in my opinion, they didn't quite get the rankings right in regards to our Southeast Texas teams. It's obvious these rankings are based on a school's performance in the playoffs but that doesn't reflect their entire body of work. I tend to take a team's season long performance into account as opposed to a possible one & done format where any team can win on any given night. I would have Silsbee #5, HJ #7 & Cleveland #10 - I realize my rankings don't hold any more water than the TABC ratings but thought I would try & offer a more accurate depiction. [/quote]I meant to say in regards to our "3A" Southeast Texas teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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