Kountze no Diversity!

[cake]

I was at the Kountze vs Buna game last Friday and made an observation, Kountze had better Athletes than Buna not by much but kid for kid Kountze more Athletic kids.  I know what kind of response this is going to bring (well how come the scoreboard didn't show it) and so on.  But i really think if Kountze would try some more of thier speed and not just run Howard (Earl Campbell) are throw to one reciever they might back some folks off.  I think maybe just maybe if they were a little more diverse things could be different.

[DW28]

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[justafan1]

This thread is going to get ugly quickly. Kountze's issues are so much more than the play calling. Look at it this way. Kountze is a onion and there are a lot of layers to peel off before the Lions will have a winning season, and if the layers are not peeled back the onion will sit there and rot, or you can peel the onion and who knows.

[SgtRey]

[quote name="Justafan1" post="879543" timestamp="1287417959"]
This thread is going to get ugly quickly. Kountze's issues are so much more than the play calling. Look at it this way. Kountze is a onion and there are a lot of layers to peel off before the Lions will have a winning season, and if the layers are not peeled back the onion will sit there and rot, or you can peel the onion and who knows.
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Now i'm hungry..

[Guest ECBucFan]

[quote name="Justafan1" post="879543" timestamp="1287417959"]
This thread is going to get ugly quickly. Kountze's issues are so much more than the play calling. Look at it this way. Kountze is a onion and there are a lot of layers to peel off before the Lions will have a winning season, and if the layers are not peeled back the onion will sit there and rot, or you can peel the onion and who knows.
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Good analogy. I feel bad for the kids at Kountze who want to play winning football, but have to be in a program given low priority (or outright disrespect) due to the basketball obsession. They need to reprioritize badly. 

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="Justafan1" post="879543" timestamp="1287417959"]
This thread is going to get ugly quickly. Kountze's issues are so much more than the play calling. Look at it this way. Kountze is a onion and there are a lot of layers to peel off before the Lions will have a winning season, and if the layers are not peeled back the onion will sit there and rot, or you can peel the onion and who knows.
[/quote]i need a whopper with onions now.  :D

[BRONX ROX]

[quote name="Scooter!" post="879640" timestamp="1287422088"]
[quote author=Justafan1 link=topic=74634.msg879543#msg879543 date=1287417959]
This thread is going to get ugly quickly. Kountze's issues are so much more than the play calling. Look at it this way. Kountze is a onion and there are a lot of layers to peel off before the Lions will have a winning season, and if the layers are not peeled back the onion will sit there and rot, or you can peel the onion and who knows.
[/quote]i need a whopper with onions now.  :D
[/quote]
That should be a crow burger after Friday ;D Right SGT

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="BRONX ROX" post="879649" timestamp="1287422576"]
[quote author=Scooter! link=topic=74634.msg879640#msg879640 date=1287422088]
[quote author=Justafan1 link=topic=74634.msg879543#msg879543 date=1287417959]
This thread is going to get ugly quickly. Kountze's issues are so much more than the play calling. Look at it this way. Kountze is a onion and there are a lot of layers to peel off before the Lions will have a winning season, and if the layers are not peeled back the onion will sit there and rot, or you can peel the onion and who knows.
[/quote]i need a whopper with onions now.  :D
[/quote]
That should be a crow burger after Friday ;D Right SGT
[/quote]butches  >:( :D

[SgtRey]

[quote name="Scooter!" post="879653" timestamp="1287422657"]
[quote author=BRONX ROX link=topic=74634.msg879649#msg879649 date=1287422576]
[quote author=Scooter! link=topic=74634.msg879640#msg879640 date=1287422088]
[quote author=Justafan1 link=topic=74634.msg879543#msg879543 date=1287417959]
This thread is going to get ugly quickly. Kountze's issues are so much more than the play calling. Look at it this way. Kountze is a onion and there are a lot of layers to peel off before the Lions will have a winning season, and if the layers are not peeled back the onion will sit there and rot, or you can peel the onion and who knows.
[/quote]i need a whopper with onions now.  :D
[/quote]
That should be a crow burger after Friday ;D Right SGT
[/quote]butches  >:( :D
[/quote]I'll get you a Butch Burger with extra onions.. :P

[Guest Newbie]

blooming onion

[Guest Skinitback]

Anytime a school like Kountze has someone other than the head football coach as the AD you rarely win in football at the smaller levels.  Basketball is king in Kountze .  ITs easier to shoot and scrimmage in an airconditioned gym opposed to coming out and practicing in the heat of 2 a days,getting hit,etc.  I think thats why the ATHLETES that play b-ball in kountze probably don't play football and if they do,they are just going through the motions until b-ball season.  Change how you wants things to operate and you will change the mindset of the kids. just an opinion.

[Grammar Police]

Let's not forget that we are talking about a school where the TRAINER is also the athletic director.

[KHSAlum400]

[quote name="Grammar Police" post="880405" timestamp="1287484820"]
Let's not forget that we are talking about a school where the TRAINER is also the athletic director.
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Ouch!  ;)

Sad but so true!

[Guest jacobmccandles]

Kountze does have more overall state championships in athletics than any school in the area.  None in football!!

[BADSANTA]

If you want to play football move to Silsbee!

[Guest bleed orange]

[quote name="Skinitback" post="880374" timestamp="1287464826"]
Anytime a school like Kountze has someone other than the head football coach as the AD you rarely win in football at the smaller levels.  Basketball is king in Kountze .  ITs easier to shoot and scrimmage in an airconditioned gym opposed to coming out and practicing in the heat of 2 a days,getting hit,etc.  I think thats why the ATHLETES that play b-ball in kountze probably don't play football and if they do,they are just going through the motions until b-ball season.  Change how you wants things to operate and you will change the mindset of the kids. just an opinion.
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You are "right on" with this post and the problem is not just at Kountze. Have you notice that many 3A schools and down cannot field 3 teams anymore.(9th, JV and Varsity) Kountze had very good football teams back in the 70's.

[cake]

This is all true when you have the A.D. riding around on his John Deere rather than contributing to the teams success, other than wrapping some ankles you need someone in there that the kids RESPECT and would follow anywhere and do anything for. If you don't believe that look at those teams of late and how they were coached.  Also look at that the previous basketball coaches they've earned the kids respect and lets count how many B-ball tropheys they have.

[KHSAlum400]

When I played back in 97-99, the majority, if not all of the basketball players were on the football team and contributed GREATLY. Now that I look back, the problem wasn't the players, it's the lack of coaching that's on the sidelines. We had some horses on those teams. In fact, we were 3A at the time and won the district in basketball AND track one of those years I do believe.

If I knew then, what I know now, we could have easily fielded some respectable teams.

[justafan1]

This is all true when you have the A.D. riding around on his John Deere rather than contributing to the teams success, other than wrapping some ankles you need someone in there that the kids RESPECT and would follow anywhere and do anything for. If you don't believe that look at those teams of late and how they were coached.  Also look at that the previous basketball coaches they've earned the kids respect and lets count how many B-ball tropheys they have.


WOW

[Guest bleed orange]

To me we need the old school way of coaching back. Sorry to say but that style is gone. Parents will not let that happen. Why do you think Curtis Barbay was so successful? Yes, he had athlete's but he did things the "Old School" way. He told me that himself. School districts are like corporate America now, They are happy with drawing a paycheck.  The passion for some coaches are gone. Can't blame them because evertime they turn around some parent is up their ass complaining.  Coaches are born not made. I was fortunate to play for a coach that was born. 

[no-look]

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="879624" timestamp="1287421501"]
[quote author=Justafan1 link=topic=74634.msg879543#msg879543 date=1287417959]
This thread is going to get ugly quickly. Kountze's issues are so much more than the play calling. Look at it this way. Kountze is a onion and there are a lot of layers to peel off before the Lions will have a winning season, and if the layers are not peeled back the onion will sit there and rot, or you can peel the onion and who knows.
[/quote]

Good analogy. I feel bad for the kids at Kountze who want to play winning football, but have to be in a program given low priority (or outright disrespect) due to the basketball obsession. They need to reprioritize badly. 
[/quote]Why?  How many football state championships do they have?

[whsalum]

You could put the football coach as AD and take the kids out of the gym and get mediocre real quick in both sports.

[raideroldtimer]

[quote name="bleed orange" post="880690" timestamp="1287508777"]
[quote author=Skinitback link=topic=74634.msg880374#msg880374 date=1287464826]
Anytime a school like Kountze has someone other than the head football coach as the AD you rarely win in football at the smaller levels.  Basketball is king in Kountze .  ITs easier to shoot and scrimmage in an airconditioned gym opposed to coming out and practicing in the heat of 2 a days,getting hit,etc.  I think thats why the ATHLETES that play b-ball in kountze probably don't play football and if they do,they are just going through the motions until b-ball season.  Change how you wants things to operate and you will change the mindset of the kids. just an opinion.
[/quote]

You are "right on" with this post and the problem is not just at Kountze. Have you notice that many 3A schools and down cannot field 3 teams anymore.(9th, JV and Varsity) Kountze had very good football teams back in the 70's.
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The biggest reason most smaller schools have problems fielding teams n all the grade levels is pretty simple. Now days you year round baseball, basketball and soccer in the private leagues and the kids are spending more of their time specializing in one sport rather than participating in several. Although I like to watch soccer, I blame that sport the most as they were the ones who seemed to take the game into nearly year round leagues first.

[Guest ECBucFan]

[quote name="whsalum" post="881298" timestamp="1287542799"]
You could put the football coach as AD and take the kids out of the gym and get mediocre real quick in both sports.
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Well, at EC, I don't think you can apply the "mediocre" label to football or basketball.  :)

[DVILLE-GORILLA]

Keep the present coach that everyone thought would save football, and they won't have a JV in a year or two.  I saw it happen right down the road a few years back.  Sounds like the board needs to decide if they want to compete and if so, BIG changes are needed.  Hate me all you want, I speak the truth!