HJ vs. K-Ville Jr. High

[bmrm]

7th grade B:

K-Ville: 22

HJ: 14

7th Grade A:

HJ: 8

K-Ville: 6

8th Grade:

Heard HJ won but didn't get final score.

[Castor27]

18-16. HJ scored with under a minute left and then picked off a pass with about 30 seconds left.

[bmrm]

I know this subject was brought up on the high school football thread, but it gives me the reds that the second team 7th & 8th grade teams(if applicable) have to play their games with a running clock.  I am the proud parent of HJ's second team QB(who had a 70 yard TD run by the way against K-Ville, despite "bedelmon" trying to credit someone else with it - HA!) & had the unfortunate situation of having to watch a junior high game in which the clock ran the entire time, so how in the world do you expect these teams to gain any type of continuity & teamwork when at best, the most possessions they are going to have is three or four in a game?  According to UIL rules, each quarter is supposed to last (8) minutes, however, our quarters were only (7) minutes.  By the time a team takes takes possession, runs their plays, the quarter is essentialy over.  At best your looking at possessing the ball three to four times in a game.  How in the world is that helping these kids learn how to play football regardless if it's offense or defense?  When it takes longer to drive to where the game is played as opposed to the actual length of the game, that's ridiculous.  You have kids who participate in practice everyday but because they may not be starters, time doesn't allow them to get on the field during the game.  I work with two senior officials that have been officiating high school football for over 30 years respectively and they both told me that UIL rules state that junior high games are (8) minute quarters with no rolling clocks.  The only time they are rolling clocks is if the game is a blowout & both coaches agree to it.  Last night's game between HJ's & K-Ville's second string 7th grade teams was never a mismatch & therefore shouldn't have been forced to a rolling clock.  It leads me to believe that either the officials didn't want to spend anymore time in the rain than necessary or the coaches were more concerned with the outcome of the 7th grade grade first teams.   

       

[mical]

I agree that the running clock is a joke, but I don't think that there is a conspiracy against the 2nd 7th grade team.  The clock ran for both 7th grade teams.  For some of the kids that have played "little league" football their Junior High games are about half as long, and they play half the reps. 

[CommonSense]

Right or wrong jr.high B games have had running clocks for the last 20 years. The clocks run in football, basketball and volleyball. If you played 4 games without running clocks, the last game would be finished at a very late time. The best thing to do is to play those games on a different day so the clock does not have to run. The problem with this is having enough coaches to stay with the other teams that are at practice. If B team players work hard in practice and games they will be noticed. I have seen many B team jr. high players end up starting or getting a lot of playing time in high school.

[bmrm]

We witnessed the last few minutes of the 7th grade A team and it wasn't a running clock.  Maybe it did prior to our arrival back at the stadium.  With the large number of kids we have on both squads, with a running clock, you can't get everybody an opportunity to play.  I know this isn't little league where everybody has to play, but still with all these kids dedicating their time to practice and all, they should at least get a chance to get in the game for a few plays.

I agree that the running clock is a joke, but I don't think that there is a conspiracy against the 2nd 7th grade team.  The clock ran for both 7th grade teams.  For some of the kids that have played "little league" football their Junior High games are about half as long, and they play half the reps. 

[Castor27]

First off, it is in the 21-3A district minutes that all b games will be 6 minute running clock A games are 6 minute regular clock and 8th grade is 8 minute regular clock (I know this was not a district game but when district starts that is how it will be, if other schools even have two 7th grade teams). That is pretty well standard for most districts and it has been that way for a good while. It will be the same way in basketball too. As it was, the kids that had to ride the bus home on Thursday did not get back to the school until 11:30. The B games are played that way for that reason. If they had played a regular clock the bus would have been back well after midnight on a school night. The 7th A game was supposed to be a regular clock but for some reason it ran until about 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter (Odd that it started running right about the time HJ scored). And it could be worse, up until the last year or two many of the 4A schools in the area didn't play a 7th grade schedule, so you could be going through a week of practice then sitting in the stands and watching only the 8th grade play.

[bedelmon]

I know this subject was brought up on the high school football thread, but it gives me the reds that the second team 7th & 8th grade teams(if applicable) have to play their games with a running clock.  I am the proud parent of HJ's second team QB(who had a 70 yard TD run by the way against K-Ville, despite "bedelmon" trying to credit someone else with it - HA!) & had the unfortunate situation of having to watch a junior high game in which the clock ran the entire time, so how in the world do you expect these teams to gain any type of continuity & teamwork when at best, the most possessions they are going to have is three or four in a game?  According to UIL rules, each quarter is supposed to last (8) minutes, however, our quarters were only (7) minutes.  By the time a team takes takes possession, runs their plays, the quarter is essentialy over.  At best your looking at possessing the ball three to four times in a game.  How in the world is that helping these kids learn how to play football regardless if it's offense or defense?  When it takes longer to drive to where the game is played as opposed to the actual length of the game, that's ridiculous.  You have kids who participate in practice everyday but because they may not be starters, time doesn't allow them to get on the field during the game.  I work with two senior officials that have been officiating high school football for over 30 years respectively and they both told me that UIL rules state that junior high games are (8) minute quarters with no rolling clocks.  The only time they are rolling clocks is if the game is a blowout & both coaches agree to it.  Last night's game between HJ's & K-Ville's second string 7th grade teams was never a mismatch & therefore shouldn't have been forced to a rolling clock.  It leads me to believe that either the officials didn't want to spend anymore time in the rain than necessary or the coaches were more concerned with the outcome of the 7th grade grade first teams.   

       

What did I do??? Billiam???

[bmrm]

According to your wife(sorry Tammy), you tried to credit Ryan's TD run to an 8th grader.  No biggie, I'm just messin' with ya' & happy that he's finally playing & enjoying himself.

I know this subject was brought up on the high school football thread, but it gives me the reds that the second team 7th & 8th grade teams(if applicable) have to play their games with a running clock.  I am the proud parent of HJ's second team QB(who had a 70 yard TD run by the way against K-Ville, despite "bedelmon" trying to credit someone else with it - HA!) & had the unfortunate situation of having to watch a junior high game in which the clock ran the entire time, so how in the world do you expect these teams to gain any type of continuity & teamwork when at best, the most possessions they are going to have is three or four in a game?  According to UIL rules, each quarter is supposed to last (8) minutes, however, our quarters were only (7) minutes.  By the time a team takes takes possession, runs their plays, the quarter is essentialy over.  At best your looking at possessing the ball three to four times in a game.  How in the world is that helping these kids learn how to play football regardless if it's offense or defense?  When it takes longer to drive to where the game is played as opposed to the actual length of the game, that's ridiculous.  You have kids who participate in practice everyday but because they may not be starters, time doesn't allow them to get on the field during the game.  I work with two senior officials that have been officiating high school football for over 30 years respectively and they both told me that UIL rules state that junior high games are (8) minute quarters with no rolling clocks.  The only time they are rolling clocks is if the game is a blowout & both coaches agree to it.  Last night's game between HJ's & K-Ville's second string 7th grade teams was never a mismatch & therefore shouldn't have been forced to a rolling clock.  It leads me to believe that either the officials didn't want to spend anymore time in the rain than necessary or the coaches were more concerned with the outcome of the 7th grade grade first teams.   

       

What did I do??? Billiam???

[bedelmon]

My wife lies alot. C'mon Billiam, I know, as well as you, there are no eighth graders on the 7th grade team.

[mical]

I know that Edelmon guy and I would not put anthing past him.

[bedelmon]

Ok, I'm guilty.....I didn't know who the kid was that ran a long touchdown and might have thought it was someone other than that Gajeski kid. Shoot me! Mical sucks!

[bmrm]

Oh I know there are no 8th graders on that team, I just had to give you a hard time about confusing my son with one of the triplets.

My wife lies alot. C'mon Billiam, I know, as well as you, there are no eighth graders on the 7th grade team.

[bmrm]

Mical, I'm with you.  You know he still thinks my wife is a pole dancer.

I know that Edelmon guy and I would not put anthing past him.

[bmrm]

You should never have those thoughts - HA!!!  I know you've relocated and have an estate, but just because we haven't been playing baseball, you could still invite us to some of your infamous back porch BBQ's.  We know we're not part of the in-crowd but the Mrs. & I enjoy visiting with you & your bride.  I'm pretty sure the Sour Lake powers that be wouldn't object to us getting together for quite a few cold ones.

Ok, I'm guilty.....I didn't know who the kid was that ran a long touchdown and might have thought it was someone other than that Gajeski kid. Shoot me! Mical sucks!

[bedelmon]

Mical, I'm with you.  You know he still thinks my wife is a pole dancer.

I know that Edelmon guy and I would not put anthing past him.

Dude, she could be a pole dancer!! Your ol' lady is buff! Ha!

[bmrm]

Mical, I'm with you.  You know he still thinks my wife is a pole dancer.

I know that Edelmon guy and I would not put anthing past him.

Dude, she could be a pole dancer!! Your ol' lady is buff! Ha!

Mical, I'm with you.  You know he still thinks my wife is a pole dancer.

I know that Edelmon guy and I would not put anthing past him.

Dude, she could be a pole dancer!! Your ol' lady is buff! Ha!

BUFF THE STUFF!!!