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Tubbs and Foster were blessed in a time when grades didn't matter as much, and less competition from video games. Plus, every kid with a serious game wants to play on the big stage. The kid from HJ (two seasons ago) is a prime example. Too many kids get the hype but don't realize their skills (mental & physical)don't transfer into big time D-1 players.

Are you talking about Ryan Donahoe from HJ, who led his team to a state title?

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Tubbs and Foster were blessed in a time when grades didn't matter as much, and less competition from video games. Plus, every kid with a serious game wants to play on the big stage. The kid from HJ (two seasons ago) is a prime example. Too many kids get the hype but don't realize their skills (mental & physical)don't transfer into big time D-1 players.

Are you talking about Ryan Donahoe from HJ, who led his team to a state title?

Or kids like him in similar situations.
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CLASS OF 2006 FINAL TOP 100

1.Greg Oden, 7-0 C, Indianapolis (IN) Lawrence North- OHIO STATE

2.Kevin Durant, 6-10 WF, Rockville (MD) Montrose Christian- TEXAS

3.Thaddeus Young, 6-8 WF, Memphis (TN) Mitchell- GEORGIA TECH

4.Chase Budinger, 6-8 WF, Carlsbad (CA) La Costa Canyon- ARIZONA

5.Brandan Wright, 6-9 BF, Brentwood (TN) Academy- NORTH CAROLINA

6.Spencer Hawes, 6-11 C/BF, Seattle (WA) Prep- WASHINGTON

7.Gerald Henderson, 6-5 WG, Merion Station (PA) Episcopal- DUKE

8.Sherron Collins, 5-11 PG, Chicago (IL) Crane- KANSAS

9.Tywon Lawson, 5-11 PG, Mouth of Wilson (VA) Oak Hill- NORTH CAROLINA

10.Darrell Arthur, 6-9 BF, Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff- KANSAS

11.Wayne Ellington, 6-5 WG, Merion Station (PA) Episcopal- NORTH CAROLINA

12.Davon Jefferson, 6-7 WF, Lynwood (CA) correspondence – SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

13.Brook Lopez, 7-0 BF/C, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- STANFORD

14.Earl Clark, 6-9 WF, Rahway (NJ) High- LOUISVILLE

15.Paul Harris, 6-5 WG/WF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- SYRACUSE

16.Daequan Cook, 6-5 WG, Dayton (OH) Dunbar- OHIO STATE

17.Javaris Crittenton, 6-4 PG/WG, Atlanta (GA) Southwest Atlanta Christian- GEORGIA TECH

18.Quincy Pondexter, 6-7 WF, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- WASHINGTON

19.Stanley Robinson, 6-9 WF/BF, Birmingham (AL) Huffman- CONNECTICUT

20.Lance Thomas, 6-8 BF, Newark (NJ) St. Benedict’s- DUKE

21.Damion James, 6-7 WF/BF, Nacogdoches (TX) High- TEXAS

22.Robin Lopez, 7-0 C, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- STANFORD

23.Jon Scheyer, 6-5 WG, Northbrook (IL) Glenbrook North- DUKE

24.Vernon Macklin, 6-9 BF/C, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- GEORGETOWN

25.Derrick Caracter, 6-9 BF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- LOUISVILLE

26.Mike Conley, Jr., 6-0 PG, Indianapolis (IN) Lawrence North- OHIO STATE

27.David Lighty, 6-5 WF/WG, Cleveland (OH) St. Joseph- OHIO STATE

28.Alex Stepheson, 6-9 BF/C, North Hollywood (CA) Harvard Westlake- NORTH CAROLINA

29.James Keefe, 6-8 BF, Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) High- UCLA

30.Jerome Dyson, 6-3 WG/PG, Andover (NH) Proctor- CONNECTICUT

31.Deon Thompson, 6-8 C/BF, Torrance (CA) High- NORTH CAROLINA

32.DeShawn Sims, 6-7 BF/WF, Detroit (MI) Pershing- MICHIGAN

33.Ramar Smith, 6-2 WG, Detroit (MI) King- TENNESSEE

34.DaJuan Summers, 6-8 BF/WF, Owings Mills (MD) McDonough- GEORGETOWN

35.Raymar Morgan, 6-7 WF, Canton (OH) McKinley- MICHIGAN STATE

36.Curtis Kelly, 6-9 BF, Manhattan (NY) Rice- CONNECTICUT

37.Willie Kemp, 6-2 PG/WG, Bolivar (TN) Central- MEMPHIS

38.D.J. Augustin, 5-11 PG, Sugarland (TX) Hightower- TEXAS

39.Mike Washington, 6-9 BF, Mendenhall (MS) Genesis One- ARKANSAS

40.Brian Carlwell, 6-11 C, Maywood (IL) Proviso East- ILLINOIS

41.Patrick Christopher, 6-4 WG, Compton (CA) Dominguez- CALIFORNIA

42.Duke Crews, 6-6 BF, Hampton (VA) Bethel- TENNESSEE

43.Derrick Jasper, 6-5 WG/PG, Paso Robles (CA) High- KENTUCKY

44.Bryan Davis, 6-9 BF, Grand Prairie (TX) High- TEXAS A&M

45.Wayne Chism, 6-9 BF/C, Bolivar (TN) Central- TENNESSEE

46.Mike Jones, 6-6 WF, Hopkins (SC) Lower Richland- SYRACUSE

47.Keith Clark, 6-8 BF, Oklahoma City (OK) Putnam City- OKLAHOMA

48.Obi Muonelo, 6-4 WG, Edmond (OK) Sante Fe- OKLAHOMA STATE

49.Anthony Gurley, 6-3 WG, Newtonville (MA) Newton North- WAKE FOREST

50.Eugene Harvey, 5-11 PG, Newark (NJ) St. Benedict’s- SETON HALL

51.Jamil Tucker, 6-8 BF/WF, Gary (IN) West Side- VIRGINIA

52.Jason Bennett, 7-2 C, Jacksonville (FL) Arlington Country Day- KANSAS STATE

53.Scotty Reynolds, 6-0 WG, Herndon (VA) High- VILLANOVA

54.Jerry Smith, 6-3 WG, Wauwatosa (WI) East- LOUISVILLE

55.Doug Wiggins, 5-11 PG, Hartford (CT) East- CONNECTICUT

56.Jon Kreft, 7-0 C, Parkland (FL) Douglas- Junior college/Jail

57.Taj Gibson, 6-9 BF, La Verne (CA) Calvary Baptist- SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

58.Leon Freeman, 6-4 WG, Belleville (MI) High- Prep/JUCO

59.Jason Bohannon, 6-3 WG/PG, Marion (IA) Linn-Mar- WISCONSIN

60.Brian Zoubek, 7-1 C, Cherry Hill (NJ) Haddonfield Memorial- DUKE

61.Perry Stevenson, 6-9 BF, Lafayette (LA) Northside- KENTUCKY

62.Tyler Smith, 6-6 WF, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- IOWA

63.Lazar Hayward, 6-5 WG/WF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- MARQUETTE

64.Gilbert Brown, 6-5 WF, South Kent (CT) Prep- PITTSBRGH

65.Isaiah Dahlman, 6-6 WF/WG, Braham (MN) High- MICHIGAN STATE

66.Phil Nelson, 6-8 WF/BF, Kaiser (OR) McNary- WASHINGTON

67.Jodie Meeks, 6-3 WG/PG, Norcross (GA) High- KENTUCKY

68.Jamie Skeen, 6-7 BF/WF, Huntersville (NC) North Mecklenburg- WAKE FOREST

69.Nigel Munson, 6-0 PG, Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha- VIRGINIA TECH

70.Hasheem Thabeet, 7-2 C, Cypress (TX) Christian- Undecided

71.Donald Sloan, 6-3 WG, Seagoville (TX) High- TEXAS A&M

72.Marques Johnson, 6-4 WG/PG, Ft. Wayne (IN) Snider- TENNESSEE

73.Tory Jackson, 5-10 PG, Saginaw (MI) Buena Vista- NOTRE DAME

74.Keaton Grant, 6-3 WG/PG, Bridgton (ME) Prep- PURDUE

75.Tyrone Appleton, 6-2 WG/PG, Cincinnati (OH) Harmony- VIRGINIA TECH

76.Demond Carter, 5-10 PG/WG, Laplace (LA) Reserve Christian- BAYLOR

77.Josh Lomers, 7-0 C, Boerne (TX) High- BAYLOR

78.Russell Westbrook, 6-2 WG/PG, Los Angeles (CA) Leuzinger- UCLA

79.Patrick Beverly, 6-2 WG, Chicago (IL) Marshall- ARKANSAS

80.Daniel Deane, 6-8 BF, Salt Lake City (UT) Judge Memorial- UTAH

81.Bryce Webster, 6-9 BF/C, Mendota Heights (MN) St. Thomas- MINNESOTA

82.Marreese Speights, 6-10 BF, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- FLORIDA

[b]83.Curtis Eatmon, 6-3 PG/WG, Los Osos (CA) High- UTAH

84.Matt Bouldin, 6-5 WG, Highlands Ranch (CO) Thunder Ridge- GONZAGA

85.Edgar Sosa, 6-2 WG/PG, Manhattan (NY) Rice- LOUISVILLE

86.Doneal Mack, 6-4 WG, Statesville (NC) Christian- FLORIDA

87.Dan Werner, 6-7 WF, Lincroft (NJ) Christian Brothers- Undecided

88.Adrion Graves, 6-4 WG/WF, Cincinnati (OH) Hughes- XAVIER

89.Jordan Hill, 6-9 BF/C, Lenoir (NC) Patterson School- ARIZONA

90.L.D. Williams, 6-4 WG/WF, Montverde (FL) Academy- WAKE FOREST

91.Tom Herzog, 7-0 C, Flint (MI) Powers- MICHIGAN STATE

92.Rob Thomas, 6-6 WF/BF, South Kent (CT) Prep- ST. JOHN’S

93.Matt Hill, 6-10 BF, Lincoln (NE) Southeast- TEXAS

94.DeSean Butler, 6-6 WF, Bloomfield (NJ) Tech- WEST VIRGINIA

95.Djibril Thiam, 6-8 WF, Tierra Rejada (CA) Stoneridge Prep- BAYLOR

96.Nic Wise, 5-9 PG, Kingwood (TX) High- ARIZONA

97.Antonio Pena, 6-8 BF, Oakdale (CT) St. Thomas More- VILLANOVA

98.Bobby Maze, 6-2 WG/PG, Lenoir (NC) Patterson- OKLAHOMA

99.John Mandeldove, 6-11 C, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- CONNECTICUT

100.Isacc Miles, 6-2 PG/WG, Shawnee Mission (KS) Bishop Miege- CREIGHTON

Let me clear my throat! Utah let the kid go because he was not good enough to play at that level. The #300 ranking from Hoops Scoop was fair. They gave his scholarship to a walk-on player................ Also, there was a kid (pg?sg?) from the Clear Lake area that LU supposely was going to sign. LU hyped this kid up a few months ago. This kid was no good too. My point is this: I'm not saying these kids can't ball, but LU is very good hyping these kids up and most of it is just hype.

Okay, this is my last reply on this topic. I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall here. I've spent spent about 1 hr googling information about Curtis Eatmon. I have never seen information where Utah "let this kid go". Please provide a link or something to make your claim valid. I believe he wasn't happy at Utah and decided to leave.

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CLASS OF 2006 FINAL TOP 100

1.Greg Oden, 7-0 C, Indianapolis (IN) Lawrence North- OHIO STATE

2.Kevin Durant, 6-10 WF, Rockville (MD) Montrose Christian- TEXAS

3.Thaddeus Young, 6-8 WF, Memphis (TN) Mitchell- GEORGIA TECH

4.Chase Budinger, 6-8 WF, Carlsbad (CA) La Costa Canyon- ARIZONA

5.Brandan Wright, 6-9 BF, Brentwood (TN) Academy- NORTH CAROLINA

6.Spencer Hawes, 6-11 C/BF, Seattle (WA) Prep- WASHINGTON

7.Gerald Henderson, 6-5 WG, Merion Station (PA) Episcopal- DUKE

8.Sherron Collins, 5-11 PG, Chicago (IL) Crane- KANSAS

9.Tywon Lawson, 5-11 PG, Mouth of Wilson (VA) Oak Hill- NORTH CAROLINA

10.Darrell Arthur, 6-9 BF, Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff- KANSAS

11.Wayne Ellington, 6-5 WG, Merion Station (PA) Episcopal- NORTH CAROLINA

12.Davon Jefferson, 6-7 WF, Lynwood (CA) correspondence – SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

13.Brook Lopez, 7-0 BF/C, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- STANFORD

14.Earl Clark, 6-9 WF, Rahway (NJ) High- LOUISVILLE

15.Paul Harris, 6-5 WG/WF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- SYRACUSE

16.Daequan Cook, 6-5 WG, Dayton (OH) Dunbar- OHIO STATE

17.Javaris Crittenton, 6-4 PG/WG, Atlanta (GA) Southwest Atlanta Christian- GEORGIA TECH

18.Quincy Pondexter, 6-7 WF, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- WASHINGTON

19.Stanley Robinson, 6-9 WF/BF, Birmingham (AL) Huffman- CONNECTICUT

20.Lance Thomas, 6-8 BF, Newark (NJ) St. Benedict’s- DUKE

21.Damion James, 6-7 WF/BF, Nacogdoches (TX) High- TEXAS

22.Robin Lopez, 7-0 C, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- STANFORD

23.Jon Scheyer, 6-5 WG, Northbrook (IL) Glenbrook North- DUKE

24.Vernon Macklin, 6-9 BF/C, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- GEORGETOWN

25.Derrick Caracter, 6-9 BF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- LOUISVILLE

26.Mike Conley, Jr., 6-0 PG, Indianapolis (IN) Lawrence North- OHIO STATE

27.David Lighty, 6-5 WF/WG, Cleveland (OH) St. Joseph- OHIO STATE

28.Alex Stepheson, 6-9 BF/C, North Hollywood (CA) Harvard Westlake- NORTH CAROLINA

29.James Keefe, 6-8 BF, Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) High- UCLA

30.Jerome Dyson, 6-3 WG/PG, Andover (NH) Proctor- CONNECTICUT

31.Deon Thompson, 6-8 C/BF, Torrance (CA) High- NORTH CAROLINA

32.DeShawn Sims, 6-7 BF/WF, Detroit (MI) Pershing- MICHIGAN

33.Ramar Smith, 6-2 WG, Detroit (MI) King- TENNESSEE

34.DaJuan Summers, 6-8 BF/WF, Owings Mills (MD) McDonough- GEORGETOWN

35.Raymar Morgan, 6-7 WF, Canton (OH) McKinley- MICHIGAN STATE

36.Curtis Kelly, 6-9 BF, Manhattan (NY) Rice- CONNECTICUT

37.Willie Kemp, 6-2 PG/WG, Bolivar (TN) Central- MEMPHIS

38.D.J. Augustin, 5-11 PG, Sugarland (TX) Hightower- TEXAS

39.Mike Washington, 6-9 BF, Mendenhall (MS) Genesis One- ARKANSAS

40.Brian Carlwell, 6-11 C, Maywood (IL) Proviso East- ILLINOIS

41.Patrick Christopher, 6-4 WG, Compton (CA) Dominguez- CALIFORNIA

42.Duke Crews, 6-6 BF, Hampton (VA) Bethel- TENNESSEE

43.Derrick Jasper, 6-5 WG/PG, Paso Robles (CA) High- KENTUCKY

44.Bryan Davis, 6-9 BF, Grand Prairie (TX) High- TEXAS A&M

45.Wayne Chism, 6-9 BF/C, Bolivar (TN) Central- TENNESSEE

46.Mike Jones, 6-6 WF, Hopkins (SC) Lower Richland- SYRACUSE

47.Keith Clark, 6-8 BF, Oklahoma City (OK) Putnam City- OKLAHOMA

48.Obi Muonelo, 6-4 WG, Edmond (OK) Sante Fe- OKLAHOMA STATE

49.Anthony Gurley, 6-3 WG, Newtonville (MA) Newton North- WAKE FOREST

50.Eugene Harvey, 5-11 PG, Newark (NJ) St. Benedict’s- SETON HALL

51.Jamil Tucker, 6-8 BF/WF, Gary (IN) West Side- VIRGINIA

52.Jason Bennett, 7-2 C, Jacksonville (FL) Arlington Country Day- KANSAS STATE

53.Scotty Reynolds, 6-0 WG, Herndon (VA) High- VILLANOVA

54.Jerry Smith, 6-3 WG, Wauwatosa (WI) East- LOUISVILLE

55.Doug Wiggins, 5-11 PG, Hartford (CT) East- CONNECTICUT

56.Jon Kreft, 7-0 C, Parkland (FL) Douglas- Junior college/Jail

57.Taj Gibson, 6-9 BF, La Verne (CA) Calvary Baptist- SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

58.Leon Freeman, 6-4 WG, Belleville (MI) High- Prep/JUCO

59.Jason Bohannon, 6-3 WG/PG, Marion (IA) Linn-Mar- WISCONSIN

60.Brian Zoubek, 7-1 C, Cherry Hill (NJ) Haddonfield Memorial- DUKE

61.Perry Stevenson, 6-9 BF, Lafayette (LA) Northside- KENTUCKY

62.Tyler Smith, 6-6 WF, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- IOWA

63.Lazar Hayward, 6-5 WG/WF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- MARQUETTE

64.Gilbert Brown, 6-5 WF, South Kent (CT) Prep- PITTSBRGH

65.Isaiah Dahlman, 6-6 WF/WG, Braham (MN) High- MICHIGAN STATE

66.Phil Nelson, 6-8 WF/BF, Kaiser (OR) McNary- WASHINGTON

67.Jodie Meeks, 6-3 WG/PG, Norcross (GA) High- KENTUCKY

68.Jamie Skeen, 6-7 BF/WF, Huntersville (NC) North Mecklenburg- WAKE FOREST

69.Nigel Munson, 6-0 PG, Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha- VIRGINIA TECH

70.Hasheem Thabeet, 7-2 C, Cypress (TX) Christian- Undecided

71.Donald Sloan, 6-3 WG, Seagoville (TX) High- TEXAS A&M

72.Marques Johnson, 6-4 WG/PG, Ft. Wayne (IN) Snider- TENNESSEE

73.Tory Jackson, 5-10 PG, Saginaw (MI) Buena Vista- NOTRE DAME

74.Keaton Grant, 6-3 WG/PG, Bridgton (ME) Prep- PURDUE

75.Tyrone Appleton, 6-2 WG/PG, Cincinnati (OH) Harmony- VIRGINIA TECH

76.Demond Carter, 5-10 PG/WG, Laplace (LA) Reserve Christian- BAYLOR

77.Josh Lomers, 7-0 C, Boerne (TX) High- BAYLOR

78.Russell Westbrook, 6-2 WG/PG, Los Angeles (CA) Leuzinger- UCLA

79.Patrick Beverly, 6-2 WG, Chicago (IL) Marshall- ARKANSAS

80.Daniel Deane, 6-8 BF, Salt Lake City (UT) Judge Memorial- UTAH

81.Bryce Webster, 6-9 BF/C, Mendota Heights (MN) St. Thomas- MINNESOTA

82.Marreese Speights, 6-10 BF, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- FLORIDA

[b]83.Curtis Eatmon, 6-3 PG/WG, Los Osos (CA) High- UTAH

84.Matt Bouldin, 6-5 WG, Highlands Ranch (CO) Thunder Ridge- GONZAGA

85.Edgar Sosa, 6-2 WG/PG, Manhattan (NY) Rice- LOUISVILLE

86.Doneal Mack, 6-4 WG, Statesville (NC) Christian- FLORIDA

87.Dan Werner, 6-7 WF, Lincroft (NJ) Christian Brothers- Undecided

88.Adrion Graves, 6-4 WG/WF, Cincinnati (OH) Hughes- XAVIER

89.Jordan Hill, 6-9 BF/C, Lenoir (NC) Patterson School- ARIZONA

90.L.D. Williams, 6-4 WG/WF, Montverde (FL) Academy- WAKE FOREST

91.Tom Herzog, 7-0 C, Flint (MI) Powers- MICHIGAN STATE

92.Rob Thomas, 6-6 WF/BF, South Kent (CT) Prep- ST. JOHN’S

93.Matt Hill, 6-10 BF, Lincoln (NE) Southeast- TEXAS

94.DeSean Butler, 6-6 WF, Bloomfield (NJ) Tech- WEST VIRGINIA

95.Djibril Thiam, 6-8 WF, Tierra Rejada (CA) Stoneridge Prep- BAYLOR

96.Nic Wise, 5-9 PG, Kingwood (TX) High- ARIZONA

97.Antonio Pena, 6-8 BF, Oakdale (CT) St. Thomas More- VILLANOVA

98.Bobby Maze, 6-2 WG/PG, Lenoir (NC) Patterson- OKLAHOMA

99.John Mandeldove, 6-11 C, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- CONNECTICUT

100.Isacc Miles, 6-2 PG/WG, Shawnee Mission (KS) Bishop Miege- CREIGHTON

Let me clear my throat! Utah let the kid go because he was not good enough to play at that level. The #300 ranking from Hoops Scoop was fair. They gave his scholarship to a walk-on player................ Also, there was a kid (pg?sg?) from the Clear Lake area that LU supposely was going to sign. LU hyped this kid up a few months ago. This kid was no good too. My point is this: I'm not saying these kids can't ball, but LU is very good hyping these kids up and most of it is just hype.

Okay, this is my last reply on this topic. I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall here. I've spent spent about 1 hr googling information about Curtis Eatmon. I have never seen information where Utah "let this kid go". Please provide a link or something to make your claim valid. I believe he wasn't happy at Utah and decided to leave.

Here is a little teaser from the Salt Lake Tribune...sheez! This is no fun, you're giving up too soon Rim.

 

Utes Basketball:

by Michael C. Lewis

Monday, January 07, 2008

Utes Release Eatmon From His Scholarship

We knew it was coming, and finally it happened.

The Utes have released point guard Curtis Eatmon from his scholarship. Coach Jim Boylen announced the move at his weekly press conference today, and insisted that it did not come because Eatmon has been injured all year, but because the coaches don't believe he's good enough to contribute.

"I didn't feel it was fair to keep him, for another two years, on my roster, when his opportunity would not be there in my mind," Boylen said. "I think that's fair."

The Utes had long planned for Eatmon not to return next season, after the sophomore had not impressed them during their summertime exhibition tour in Australia. The plan became more clear when Eatmon was allowed to leave the team after fall semester classes concluded last month, in advance of the Dec. 20 surgery in Colorado (rather than Utah) that aimed to repair his troublesome hips.

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And here's a response to that press release:

Obviously, the family remains upbeat about Eatmon's recovery and potential -- though one thing they said jumped out at me. While coach Jim Boylen emphasized as his press conference today that Eatmon had never suffered a trauma to cause what he called the "condition" in his hip that ultimately required surgery, the family explained that Eatmon fell during a "pro-am" game in Salt Lake City during the summer and suffered a fracture that aggravated an impingement in his hip.

And though I don't mean to stir the pot, there are a few other little remarks in the text that sound to me almost like veiled pokes at the support or care that Eatmon received with the Utes. But that's just me, guessing.

Looks like his injury might played a bigger role in him leaving the team than what the coach is saying.

Link: http://blogs.sltrib.com/utehoops/2008/01/family-addresses-eatmons-departure-from.htm

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