mat Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago I’ve said it before. Throw funding and full support to Israel and turn them loose. How do you propose keeping them nuclear free with Russia, China and others willing to provide back door support. Boyz N Da Hood 1 Quote
thetragichippy Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, mat said: I’ve said it before. Throw funding and full support to Israel and turn them loose. How do you propose keeping them nuclear free with Russia, China and others willing to provide back door support. IMO - if we turn Israel loose, Iran will be an oil slick. Civilians will die If China or Russia wanted Iran to have a Nuke, they would have one. Putin invaded Ukraine under the Biden Admin, I don't think it is far fetched Russia or China could of slipped a few Nukes to Iran without that administration finding out.......but Both of those countries know Iran can't be trusted......and they are both closer to them than we are..... Quote
mat Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago We are at a point in this war where we can not win without civilians dying. Back to the original question. Has this effort been worth the price we’ve paid and still continue to pay? For me, it’s a hard no way. We’ve damaged way more than we’ve accomplished. Quote
thetragichippy Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 27 minutes ago, mat said: We are at a point in this war where we can not win without civilians dying. Back to the original question. Has this effort been worth the price we’ve paid and still continue to pay? For me, it’s a hard no way. We’ve damaged way more than we’ve accomplished. I honestly can't answer that because I'm not sure what kind of disaster a nuke would cause if Iran had one. There are only a handful of people that know how close Iran was to a nuke, the rest of the world is speculating. I wish prices were lower, but so far it has not stopped me from going places I want or dipping in my savings, and I don't carry balances on my CC's. My Son is doing great. Honestly my only big complain is mortgage rates are keeping the used home inventory low. I want to buy an older home on a couple acres in Hardin County.... Quote
mat Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago I personally have no real financial struggles either but is it worth the many hundreds of billions it’s costing our citizens and country and the global turmoil and the loss of military lives? It’s a hard no. A lot of focus and effort towards nuclear when our biggest terror threat resides here on American soil. Boyz N Da Hood 1 Quote
thetragichippy Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 34 minutes ago, mat said: when our biggest terror threat resides here on American soil. Explain? Quote
UT alum Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, thetragichippy said: We only know what they let us know. As far as reducing their capacity - if we didn't destroy it, we sure made it difficult to get to it. Trump has said we are watching if they try to dig through it we will hit them again. As far as worth it, what is you answer if the do get a nuke and use it? They have shot missiles 2500 miles - In that vicinity there are 20-30 significant US facilities and approx. 40-50 thousand US personal. What is the answer, wait and see? We can either be proactive or reactive...... Proactive does not necessarily mean war. The war is baseless, not the cause. Quote
mat Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 19 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: Explain? I used to have the mindset of the US being home of the free and everyone is welcome to opportunity of the American dream. However, the Muslim population has grown by millions and the communities are growing, not embracing the American way, but pushing their agenda of islamic law with a goal of Sharia law. Add that fact that our past open borders have allowed many bad actors to infiltrate our country. While we have the rouge lone wolf terrorist attack the sleeper cells truly be sleepin’. The day will come. Don’t forget 9-11 was a well coordinated plot within our border. baddog 1 Quote
baddog Posted 2 minutes ago Report Posted 2 minutes ago 1 hour ago, mat said: I used to have the mindset of the US being home of the free and everyone is welcome to opportunity of the American dream. However, the Muslim population has grown by millions and the communities are growing, not embracing the American way, but pushing their agenda of islamic law with a goal of Sharia law. Add that fact that our past open borders have allowed many bad actors to infiltrate our country. While we have the rouge lone wolf terrorist attack the sleeper cells truly be sleepin’. The day will come. Don’t forget 9-11 was a well coordinated plot within our border. You won’t get a like from the left on that one, Mat. Muslims killed around 3,000 civilians on 9/11. They’re not good at face to face confrontations unless they outnumber you. They have to be the most cowardly race/religion/ideology on the face of the planet. We do need to watch our step with the invaders. However, this war was inevitable and needed to happen. Heck, we had people who were against WWII, so it’s nothing new. If we had listened to them, we’d be speaking German or Japanese, or we would have been executed. Millions of us wouldn’t have even happened. Quote
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